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AhmedIlyas
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So, I am looking for performance but also efficiency.

 

Currently I love the extremes. My desktop is an i7Extreme and have had it for a number of years and it has never let me down, nor has the motherboard. 

 

i9 9900x

i9 9980XE 

 

Which would be better? (and why)

 

 

 

 

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unless you have specific needs for HEDT - neither

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1 minute ago, AhmedIlyas said:

Intel only. Have always used Intel. had poor experience with AMD. So, Intel only

So you're going to short change yourself and over pay for Intel to get a lesser product because a long time ago you had 1 bad experience?

 

You haven't given us a reason why you think you need a HEDT CPU to begin with and what you'll do with it so I agree with the above, neither.

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Ok, well if you only game and do regular stuff, the i9-9900k will outperform the HEDT counterparts most of the time.

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Just now, Plutosaurus said:

Ok, well if you only game and do regular stuff, the i9-9900k will outperform the HEDT counterparts most of the time.

Agreed, if the focus is pure gaming and no productivity then the 9900K is still (barely) the top dog CPU for that.

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I'm a software developer and do other IT based stuff so I need something thats tough and durable and performant. Plus, the intel chipset - so reliable than any other chipsets in my large experience. 

 

Always found AMD to be slow even on laptops where as the Intel has been pretty fast. 

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Just now, Lurick said:

Agreed, if the focus is pure gaming and no productivity then the 9900K is still (barely) the top dog CPU for that.

I can understand the desire to stick with Intel.

 

Jayztwocents just did a video about it, and i must say my experience with my Ryzen has been similar.

 

The performance disparity between the 9900k and the 3700x is pretty small and if you want to pay the $200 premium for "it just works" (most of the time) then I can't fault that.

 

 

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That said, I'm a tinkerer and if I was buying RIGHT NOW I'd absolutely get a 3700x.

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Just now, Plutosaurus said:

I can understand the desire to stick with Intel.

 

Jayztwocents just did a video about it, and i must say my experience with my Ryzen has been similar.

 

The performance disparity between the 9900k and the 3700x is pretty small and if you want to pay the $200 premium for "it just works" (most of the time) then I can't fault that.

 

 

As an i7 owner, I would strongly disagree with the "it just works" sentiment. Both platforms have issues.

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3 minutes ago, AhmedIlyas said:

I'm a software developer and do other IT based stuff so I need something thats tough and durable and performant. Plus, the intel chipset - so reliable than any other chipsets in my large experience. 

 

Always found AMD to be slow even on laptops where as the Intel has been pretty fast. 

AMD is certainly not slow.

 

It has its teething problems that seem to last forever, though, and generally require more user intervention to get it to run correctly.

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Just now, 5x5 said:

As an i7 owner, I would strongly disagree with the "it just works" sentiment. Both platforms have issues.

That's your choice, of course.

 

My experience has been quite different. 

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1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

That's your choice, of course.

 

My experience has been quite different. 

Both of our cases are sample sizes of one so I don't really think it should be a massive factor for the OP cause there are hundreds of thousands of Intel and AMD users without issues

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2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Both of our cases are sample sizes of one so I don't really think it should be a massive factor for the OP cause there are hundreds of thousands of Intel and AMD users without issues

That's obvious. But there is a reason there are new Ryzen videos almost daily talking about boost problems, AGESA update problems, temperature issues, etc.

 

How widespread the issues are is anyone's guess, but it would be kinda silly to doubt they are significant.

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From what i understand so far

 

Here are your good options

 

3700x (you wanted extreme so i guess thats a no, not that the 9900k is that extreme)

9900k

3900x

3950x (delayed)

 

Or waiting for intel's 10 core coffelake-refresh-refresh that is comming at some point. No word on when, but id give it 2-4 months. 

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Just now, GoldenLag said:

From what i understand so far

 

Here are your good options

 

9900k

3900x

3950x (delayed)

 

Or waiting for intel's 10 core coffelake-refresh-refresh that is comming at some point. No word on when, but id give it 2-4 months. 

 

LOL.. refresh-refresh :)

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3 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

That's obvious. But there is a reason there are new Ryzen videos almost daily talking about boost problems, AGESA update problems, temperature issues, etc.

 

How widespread the issues are is anyone's guess, but it would be kinda silly to doubt they are significant.

You're kinda blowing it out of proportion and this is not okay - we're in a tech forum. The Boost issue was reported and fixed in an AGESA update promptly. I've not heard of any reproducible bugs with updating a BIOS or AGESA version. I would kindly ask for a source. As for thermals - it depends on the cooler used for the intended result. If someone is overclocking his CPU on a Wraith Stealth, you can't exactly claim AMD is at fault for it.

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To answer the question you actually asked, the 9980XE would do better if you need more cores. The 9990X would do better if you needed a lot cores, but high clock speed was also of the utmost importance. 

 

The others are trying to get you to realize that you have options, but I can respect that you want platform maturity. No one is really too badly in the wrong here.

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Just now, AhmedIlyas said:

 

LOL.. refresh-refresh :)

That's one good criticism of Intel. Nothing really new the past 5 years except doing what Intel fanboys accuse AMD of..."gluing more cores together".

 

 

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1 minute ago, Den-Fi said:

To answer the question you actually asked, the 9980XE would do better if you need more cores. The 9990X would do better if you needed a lot cores, but high clock speed was also of the utmost importance. 

 

The others are trying to get you to realize that you have options, but I can respect that you want platform maturity. No one is really too badly in the wrong here.

 

oh I know - I was just joking/adding some humour :)

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3 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

You're kinda blowing it out of proportion and this is not okay - we're in a tech forum. The Boost issue was reported and fixed in an AGESA update promptly. I've not heard of any reproducible bugs with updating a BIOS or AGESA version. I would kindly ask for a source. As for thermals - it depends on the cooler used for the intended result. If someone is overclocking his CPU on a Wraith Stealth, you can't exactly claim AMD is at fault for him being an idiot.

I think you're getting a little sensitive about this subject.


There's definitely a perceived opinion that Intel is more stable, there are media outlets who also feel this way, and since Ryzen is a relatively new platform, it is logical that Intel's 5 year old technology has most of its bugs worked out by now.

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Friendly note to all answering the thread. OP is asking for help on parameter set. Please be kind and respect those. You can, ofc, offer alternatives if you feel like it. But going after each other for differentiating opinions isn't the way we work here.

 

E: Also, try to stay on topic... I'd hate to have to remove posts.

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