RTX 2070 or RX 5700 XT outside US

[Slazyel]

Hi guys, i live outside US and i'm torn between those models below. I already converted from my country currency to US dollars:

 

RX 5700 XT Reference blower: $500

RTX 2070 Galax mini 2 fans: $505

RX 5700 XT XFX Thicc II: $545

RX 5700 XT Sapphire Pulse: $590

RTX 2070 Super Gainward Phantom: $685

 

Which one would you buy?

[5x5]

5700 Thicc II - best value out of all. The 2070 non-Super competes with the 5700 non-XT

[Princess Luna]

I'd buy the 2070 Galax because it's a fine card that performs on pair with the 5700 XT either ways and usually CUDA Acceleration and NVENC are more useful than OpenCL and VCE for the most part.

 

You also seem to come from a country where 40 dollars is a significant sum of money.

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

I'd buy the 2070 Galax because it's a fine card that performs on pair with the 5700 XT either ways and usually CUDA Acceleration and NVENC are more useful than OpenCL and VCE for the most part.

 

You also seem to come from a country where 40 dollars is a significant sum of money.

I'd disagree. the 2070 non-Super is equivalent to a 2060 Super or 5700 non-XT - the 2070 Super is 20% faster and the 5700 XT is about 15% faster

[5x5]

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

I'd disagree. the 2070 non-Super is equivalent to a 2060 Super or 5700 non-XT - the 2070 Super is 20% faster and the 5700 XT is about 15% faster

Where are you pulling these numbers from? it looks like fairly random.

 

No, the vanilla 2070 and the 5700 are pretty much the same thing, give or take, there will always be games one is better than the other due to architectural differences and driver support but you'd be misleading OP by showing a handful of cherry picked bechmark results, just show the average of everything showing the 2070 2% ahead:

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

Where are you pulling these numbers from? it looks like fairly random.

 

No, the vanilla 2070 and the 5700 are pretty much the same thing, give or take, there will always be games one is better than the other due to architectural differences and driver support but you'd be misleading OP by showing a handful of cherry picked bechmark results, just show the average of everything showing the 2070 2% ahead:

 

Nothing is cherry picked - I've purposefully listed 4 different sources but as yours also points, the 5700 and 2070 are evenly matched. The OP is considering a 5700 XT which is faster than both. So imo that's worth the 40$ jump over the 2070.

[Princess Luna]

4 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Nothing is cherry picked - I've purposefully listed 4 different sources but as yours also points, the 5700 and 2070 are evenly matched. The OP is considering a 5700 XT which is faster than both. So imo that's worth the 40$ jump over the 2070.

I suppose... I really didn't have in my memory the RTX 2070 was so underwhelming then again we used to compare it to the GTX 1080 and make fun of how nVidia was basically selling the same stuff for the same price with the initial RTX launch.

 

Got myself a tad confused there with the XT and non XT as well due to browsing the forums at work I blame AMD for the terrible naming scheme.

 

So yeah, I'm fine with the THIC II, lets go with it.

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

I suppose... I really didn't have in my memory the RTX 2070 was so underwhelming then again we used to compare it to the GTX 1080 and make fun of how nVidia was basically selling the same stuff for the same price with the initial RTX launch.

 

Got myself a tad confused there with the XT and non XT as well due to browsing the forums at work I blame AMD for the terrible naming scheme.

 

So yeah, I'm fine with the THIC II, lets go with it.

I feel ya - I was about to recommend the 2070 then I sanity checked and was dumbfounded to see it trail the XT and Super by a notable margin. It really feels like the Super models should have been released to begin with and not as an afterthought to compete better

[Zando_]

Just now, Princess Luna said:

Got myself a tad confused there with the XT and non XT as well due to browsing the forums at work I blame AMD for the terrible naming scheme.

Yeah, giving both cards the same name with RX on the beginning but then X and another letter on the end of one but the same VRAM amounts and similar looking coolers makes for a very confusing time. Should've made one the 5700 and the other the 5800 or something, denoting a perf difference and an evolution over the 570 and 580 (but those are still made and in a different price bracket?). Tis a rather bamboozling situation. 

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1 hour ago, Zando Bob said:

Yeah, giving both cards the same name with RX on the beginning but then X and another letter on the end of one but the same VRAM amounts and similar looking coolers makes for a very confusing time. Should've made one the 5700 and the other the 5800 or something, denoting a perf difference and an evolution over the 570 and 580 (but those are still made and in a different price bracket?). Tis a rather bamboozling situation. 

100% of people like that naming scheme.

 

*Source: Intel Product Improvement Program Q3 2019 3 People Surveyed (all Radeon Technologies Group Marketing Employees)

[Zando_]

5 minutes ago, Den-Fi said:

100% of people like that naming scheme.

 

*Source: Intel Product Improvement Program Q3 2019 3 People Surveyed (all Radeon Technologies Group Marketing Employees)

100% of people agree this study was conducted fairly and from an appropriate group of individuals.

*Source: Intel Product Improvement Program Q3 2019 1 people surveyed (all employees who passed a qualification exam by stating that "this study was conducted fairly and from an appropriate group of individuals" after being given $300 in cash by the guy conducting the study)