AMD or Nvidia

[Hassan170]

I'm planning for my first PC build but I'm kinda torn between which GPU to get. 

 

Radeon 5700XT or RTX 2070 Super

 

Any suggestions? 

Which one has better price to performance?

[Jurrunio]

Depends on the price and model you're buying.

[LukeSavenije]

5700xt is between the 2070 and 2070s

 

it depends on price and models

[chaitra]

in general, I think 5700xt has better value for money.

 

[GoldenLag]

11 minutes ago, chaitra said:

in general, I think 5700xt has better value for money.

 

That depends entirely on the region and if there is any stock.  They are currently in low supply

[James300]

54 minutes ago, Hassan170 said:

I'm planning for my first PC build but I'm kinda torn between which GPU to get. 

 

Radeon 5700XT or RTX 2070 Super

 

Any suggestions? 

Which one has better price to performance?

I think @LukeSavenije is spot on in his comment.

 

It's between a 2070 and 2070S in terms of performance.

 

Avoid a reference edition (Blower model) 5700XT and get an AIB model, but stock may be difficult to find. I've got a FE 2070S and have been very happy with it so far. I was hoping that the 5700XT moving to 7nm that heat and subsequently noise wouldn't be an issue, however it looks like they're not quite there yet

[matrixatp]

I was wondering the same thing. Atm local retailers have the blower 5700xt at around 900 BGN and the 2070s at around 1200 BGN so let's say 120$ difference. Dual fan 5700xt is still not available but I see that in amazon it costs almost as much as the 2070s. Local retailers are pretty f****d up so I guess they would price them the same. I was hoping to buy the 5700xt aftermarket but now I'm considering the 2070s even though I don't want to pay for a feature I won't use.

[BTGbullseye]

You could get the 5700 XT reference, and replace the thermal pads with thermal paste, then it should run quite quiet at stock settings.

[Zberg]

17 hours ago, Hassan170 said:

I'm planning for my first PC build

1 hour ago, BTGbullseye said:

You could get the 5700 XT reference, and replace the thermal pads with thermal paste, then it should run quite quiet at stock settings.

 

First PC build, go easy on him

[Zberg]

5700XT - one of the best values price/performance at the high end (the best maybe?).  Def get aftermarket card if you can find it (red devil, sapphire), baseline card has bad thermals and performance.  Great FPS / dollar otherwise.  Crappy drivers (have somewhat improved, not super impressed yet), video encoder might as well be non existent (NVENC far superior), no RTX.

 

2070 super - overall a little more performance, higher price, less value but a good performer.  Smoother operation (better drivers, plug and play without as many glitches), superior video encoder- ability to stream from your GPU easily, RTX with the ability to run it well at 1080p (would stuggle at 1440p or 4k honestly though).  G sync is the best adaptive sync currently as well.  Downside is its going to cost you 100-150 more.  

 

I would personally buy Nvidia right now unless I was budget restricted and every dollar counted to the max (then the 5700xt is the way to go)

[Hassan170]

1 hour ago, Zberg said:

5700XT - one of the best values price/performance at the high end (the best maybe?).  Def get aftermarket card if you can find it (red devil, sapphire), baseline card has bad thermals and performance.  Great FPS / dollar otherwise.  Crappy drivers (have somewhat improved, not super impressed yet), video encoder might as well be non existent (NVENC far superior), no RTX.

 

2070 super - overall a little more performance, higher price, less value but a good performer.  Smoother operation (better drivers, plug and play without as many glitches), superior video encoder- ability to stream from your GPU easily, RTX with the ability to run it well at 1080p (would stuggle at 1440p or 4k honestly though).  G sync is the best adaptive sync currently as well.  Downside is its going to cost you 100-150 more.  

 

I would personally buy Nvidia right now unless I was budget restricted and every dollar counted to the max (then the 5700xt is the way to go)

So to summarize get the 2070s if you can afford it otherwise get the 5700xt if I'm going full budget mode

[matrixatp]

5 hours ago, Zberg said:

5700XT - one of the best values price/performance at the high end (the best maybe?).  Def get aftermarket card if you can find it (red devil, sapphire), baseline card has bad thermals and performance.  Great FPS / dollar otherwise.  Crappy drivers (have somewhat improved, not super impressed yet), video encoder might as well be non existent (NVENC far superior), no RTX.

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I would personally buy Nvidia right now unless I was budget restricted and every dollar counted to the max (then the 5700xt is the way to go)

I only have 1 issue here - founder vs aftermarket in regards to FPS is just about the same. In some games you would get 5 FPS more in others just 1.

 

The main reasons to buy the aftermarket one like stated before are thermals and noise. However, the best FPS:price card would be the non XT version.

 

I'm glad I waited before buying just see what a mess the 5700XT turned out to be. At this point I would prefer to spend a bit more on a 2070s since the aftermarket 5700XT is pretty close to them and I wouldn't deal with bad drivers. Atm I have an RX 480 and the drivers for it are s**t. After the latest my PC started getting blue screened.

 

tl;dr

Yes, IMO if you are not super restricted get a 2070s, even if the price to performance of the 5700XT is better.

[hollyh88]

4 hours ago, Hassan170 said:

So to summarize get the 2070s if you can afford it otherwise get the 5700xt if I'm going full budget mode

basically. yes. get the 2070 super if you can afford it. more performance is more performance. if you can't get the 5700xt. 

good aib models of the 2070 super are the: palit jetstream, gigabyte gaming oc, msi gaming trio x, gigabyte aorus, zotac amp extreme, evga xc/xc ultra/ftw3.
good aib models of the 5700 xt are the: powercolor red devil, sapphire pulse, xfx thicc, asus strix,gigabyte gaming oc.  

[hollyh88]

28 minutes ago, matrixatp said:

I only have 1 issue here - founder vs aftermarket in regards to FPS is just about the same. In some games you would get 5 FPS more in others just 1.

 

The main reasons to buy the aftermarket one like stated before are thermals and noise. However, the best FPS:price card would be the non XT version.

 

I'm glad I waited before buying just see what a mess the 5700XT turned out to be. At this point I would prefer to spend a bit more on a 2070s since the aftermarket 5700XT is pretty close to them and I wouldn't deal with bad drivers. Atm I have an RX 480 and the drivers for it are s**t. After the latest my PC started getting blue screened.

 

tl;dr

Yes, IMO if you are not super restricted get a 2070s, even if the price to performance of the 5700XT is better.

5700xt don't oc well either. see about 3-5 fps improvement compared to the 6-15 fps +- of the 2070 super. 

i am going with the gaming x trio but thats simply because i want to spend that bit extra. and i have a msi mobo so mystic lighting isnt bad to get either on the gpu too.  
oh and the hyperx ddr4 kit that i have also supports mystic lighting funny enough. 

[BTGbullseye]

On 9/3/2019 at 1:26 AM, hollyh88 said:

5700xt don't oc well either. see about 3-5 fps improvement compared to the 6-15 fps +- of the 2070 super. 

It highly depends on the card... My 5700 XT got about 10 FPS boost from overclocking to 2025MHz with stock voltages and a +50% power limit. I only stayed that low because I wanted my thermal limit to be 101°c instead of 105°c. (which I got with max overclock settings, and that was an additional 4 FPS higher)

[hollyh88]

3 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

It highly depends on the card... My 5700 XT got about 10 FPS boost from overclocking to 2025MHz with stock voltages and a +50% power limit. I only stayed that low because I wanted my thermal limit to be 101°c instead of 105°c. (which I got with max overclock settings, and that was an additional 4 FPS higher)

not at all. average fps is at most 5 fps with ocing the 5700xt. thats with 99% of them. you may have hit the 1% jackpot good on you. but if you want max performance even 2 years later the 2070 super is the better buy.

[BTGbullseye]

5 hours ago, hollyh88 said:

but if you want max performance even 2 years later the 2070 super is the better buy.

I didn't realize it's been 2 years since the 2070 Super released... A card released after the July 7, 2019 date for my 5700 XT.

 

Please don't use bullshit predictions like that, it muddies the waters.

[hollyh88]

6 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

I didn't realize it's been 2 years since the 2070 Super released... A card released after the July 7, 2019 date for my 5700 XT.

 

Please don't use bullshit predictions like that, it muddies the waters.

i do not use bullshit predictions  the 2070 super will be good for another few years while the 5700xt will fall down quickly. when talking about 1440p gaming. 

[Epimetheus]

6 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

I didn't realize it's been 2 years since the 2070 Super released... A card released after the July 7, 2019 date for my 5700 XT.

 

Please don't use bullshit predictions like that, it muddies the waters.

Didn't It release like 5 days before though?

[BTGbullseye]

On 9/6/2019 at 1:00 AM, Epimetheus said:

Didn't It release like 5 days before though?

Nope. They released July 9th.