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What markers do I use for a successful GPU OC (Laptop)?

marsfarce

Hey guys,

 

I've been patiently messing around the core and memory clock overclocking but I'm starting to realize I don't really know my reasoning behind, say, 100MHz vs 150Mhz on the core, for example.

 

My question is what sensors/markers do I use to see if my overclock is successful? I'll explain with some details below.

 

The voltage on my 2060 laptop GPU is a constant 80w so I can't mess with it. I am currently monitoring max GPU temperature, average core clock speed and Heaven Benchmark scores during a games like Overwatch (uncapped FPS) and Metro Exodus. 

 

The difference for example between a 120Mhz core OC vs 155Mhz core OC is minimal on the heaven benchmark, and I don't see a difference in average core clock speed during overwatch, nor do I see an increase an average FPS during the game either, while there is an increase in GPU temp by 2-3 degrees. Does this mean that 120MHz core OC is a desirable place to stop OCing?

 

Also, HWINFO64 says "Performance Limit - Power - YES", while "Performance Limit - Thermal NO". Does this mean the GPU excess clock demands too additional power that the 80w can't meet and therefore any further OCing of the core clock is useless?

 

Any help would be appreciated. I'm really eager to learn all these metrics.

 

Thanks

 

 

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what about a middle number, say 135MHz offset?

 

It just means it's power throttling, not thermal throttling. However it cant detect clock drops caused by GPU boost 4 backing off due to thermals

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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How about Afterburner ?

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23 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

what about a middle number, say 135MHz offset?

 

It just means it's power throttling, not thermal throttling. However it cant detect clock drops caused by GPU boost 4 backing off due to thermals

I'm sorry is didn't quite get you. Gpu downclocks to avoid overheating, I get that. Who can't detect the clock drops? Hwinfo64? 

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5 minutes ago, Constantin said:

How about Afterburner ?

What about afterburner? I use it to oc manually. The oc scanner gives me bsod. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, marsfarce said:

What about afterburner? I use it to oc manually. The oc scanner gives me bsod. 

 

 

oHH ok :(

CPU:i7 9700k 5047.5Mhz All Cores Mobo: MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC, RAM:Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 OC 3467Mhz GPU:MSI RTX 2070 ARMOR 8GB OC Storage:Samsung SSD 970 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, 2x SSD ADATA PRO SP900 256GB, HDD WD CB 2TB, HDD GREEN 2TB PSU: Seasonic focus plus 750w Gold Display(s): 1st: LG 27UK650-W, 4K, IPS, HDR10, 10bit(8bit + A-FRC). 2nd: Samsung 24" LED Monitor (SE390), Cooling:Fazn CPU Cooler Aero 120T Push/pull Corsair ML PRO Fans Keyboard: Corsair K95 Platinum RGB mx Rapidfire Mouse:Razer Naga Chroma  Headset: Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound: Logitech X-540 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker Case: Modded Case Inverted, 5 intake 120mm, one exhaust 120mm.

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3 hours ago, marsfarce said:

I'm sorry is didn't quite get you. Gpu downclocks to avoid overheating, I get that. Who can't detect the clock drops? Hwinfo64? 

None can detect the clock drop. GPU boost is the name of Nvidia's boosting algorithm, aimed to maximize performance by scaling frequency automatically based on their tests on how their silicon lose stability as temperature increases. It runs outside of factory base and boost clocks by default, so it doesnt count as thermal throttling.

 

Nvidia's thermal throttling tends to hit like slamming on the ground by suddenly locking to base clock, so if you're getting smooth frequency changes it's not thermal throttling.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

None can detect the clock drop. GPU boost is the name of Nvidia's boosting algorithm, aimed to maximize performance by scaling frequency automatically based on their tests on how their silicon lose stability as temperature increases. It runs outside of factory base and boost clocks by default, so it doesnt count as thermal throttling.

 

Nvidia's thermal throttling tends to hit like slamming on the ground by suddenly locking to base clock, so if you're getting smooth frequency changes it's not thermal throttling.

Ah right, so this is definitely not happening with me at the moment. 

 

Interestingly it says performance limit -power-yes on stock clock settings after so this doesn't seem to be an indication to stop oc'ing I guess. 

 

Since I didn't get any throttling at 155mhz and my temps were around 70-72, I guess I can crank it up a bit more? 

 

Are the gpu temps the main factors that you guys look at during an oc really? 

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DO NOT overclock laptop GPUs.

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7 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

DO NOT overclock laptop GPUs.

See I'm a beginner overclocking in general, but I've read sufficiently to see that the RTX series are totally overclockable if you've got the temperature head room. In fact, the Acer Helious 300 comes with the GPU overclocked out the box. There's been tons of people OCing their 2060s, 2070 max-q's,

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5 hours ago, marsfarce said:

I guess I can crank it up a bit more? 

 

Are the gpu temps the main factors that you guys look at during an oc really? 

Sure, and yes

 

4 hours ago, ivan134 said:

DO NOT overclock laptop GPUs.

Any proper reason? Temperature is monitored, power and voltage are both locked, if it still shouldnt be done then the same can be said for desktop cards.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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