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Conflicted at which Custom RX 5700 Card to buy, please help :)

Captain_Norway

Which ones of the custom Aib cards that have been released do you guys recommend.

I have heard that the cards have almost the same performance as each other, but the cooling is the only different, is that true?

The rx 5700 mech oc is on sale at 4000kr which is roughly around 447 dollars. While the sapphire rx 5700 pulse is priced at 4300 kr which is 481 dollars.

Do they perform similar or is it better to get the pulse version?

I think the main difference between those cards are thermals, i have searched for reviews, but didn't find many.

So that's why i ask this awesome community for help.

People have told me to wait for nitro+, but it's rumoured to be released at the end of september, atleast that's what i read on reddit.

I fear that the price of the pulse might go up by that time, and the nitro+ is probably alot more expensivene than the pulse verison.

Some stores have already started rasing the prices of the pulse cards, to 4500kr around 505 dollars.

 

So my question is if i should buy the pulse card now or the msi mech oc card which is on sale?

Or should i wait and see if they release the nitro+ cards, but by that time most of the rx 5700 aibs are around 505 dollars sadly.

I am really conficted right now, so some guidance would help me a lot!

 

Thanks Again!

 

 

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High VRM and VRAM temps on the Evoke definitely shakes up what's left of confidence on MSI's design, even though I cant find any Mech teardowns or testing data yet. I'd say you should stay safe and use Sapphire.

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

High VRM and VRAM temps on the Evoke definitely shakes up what's left of confidence on MSI's design, even though I cant find any Mech teardowns or testing data yet. I'd say you should stay safe and use Sapphire.

Yeah the Evoke had bad temps looks horrible.

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1 hour ago, Genwyn said:

Yeston.

I don't know why anyone would buy any other cooler when you can have one with a cat face on it.

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Ahhahaah ofc this is the one i have been waiting for my whole life

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1 hour ago, Genwyn said:

Yeston.

I don't know why anyone would buy any other cooler when you can have one with a cat face on it.

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But really your help would help me alot!

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1 hour ago, Genwyn said:

Well a more serious answer, Sapphire is the safe buy go-to. I don't think they've made a bad cooler since 2007.

Might be worth waiting a few more weeks to see what the rest of the aibs bring in. Gigabyte has been historically a good choice all around, nothing special but that nice mix of well performing and usually cheaper than the rest.

Asus is using the same strix cooler they've been using for a while now, which is a good performer but the aesthetics are getting kinda boring.

Im not sure what powercolor's options are like, not many people are talking about them. 

 

If you can find one for a non stupid price, that yeston 5700xt is gigantic and is an amazing performer. But they're a Chinese AIB and don't usually sell in the US/EU so they can be really expensive.

My plan was to go with the pulse but people said to wait for the nitro+ if they ever release that. The thing with waiting is that prices a definitaly going to go up, some stores have already made it more exspenisve. It cost orgianlly around 4300 kr but now its priced at 4500 kr. So i just might get the pulse now. What are your thoughts its a 25 dollar price difference. so

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1 hour ago, Genwyn said:

It's not a bad cooler but compared to the nitro it is definitely a "lesser" cooler. It'll still get the job done.

 

it's better than the msi rx 5700 mech oc?

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1 hour ago, Genwyn said:

Significantly, the cooling issues on the mech are borderline unnaceptable. I would suggest going with a reference blower before suggesting the mech. 

I think you mean the evoke or are both the evoke and the mech really bad?

 

What other aibs should i wait for and see. Gigabuyte have come out with its gaming oc though is it any good?

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No mention of ASRock? They and MSI are the only ones that warranty the cards for 3 years instead of 2...

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6 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

No mention of ASRock? They and MSI are the only ones that warranty the cards for 3 years instead of 2...

Have asrock released their cards?

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@WoodenMarker sorry to bother you again and again but i really value your knowledge very much. Can you look at this thread and try to help!

 

i am to awe to you, honestly. You have helped alot man!

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18 minutes ago, Captain_Norway said:

Have asrock released their cards?

Same official release date as all the rest of the AIBs...

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3 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Same official release date as all the rest of the AIBs...

I can’t seem to find the release dates. Do you have a link?

 

Thank you :)

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1 hour ago, Captain_Norway said:

My plan was to go with the pulse but people said to wait for the nitro+ if they ever release that. The thing with waiting is that prices a definitaly going to go up, some stores have already made it more exspenisve. It cost orgianlly around 4300 kr but now its priced at 4500 kr. So i just might get the pulse now. What are your thoughts its a 25 dollar price difference. so

I haven't been closely watching prices but I'd go for the Pulse now if you think they're going to keep getting more expensive.

Looking at prisjakt.no, prices seem to range from 4300 - 4500kr so what you might be seeing is just the normal variation in pricing. https://www.prisjakt.no/product.php?p=5170375

If you don't think you'd be kicking yourself in the future for getting a slightly worse card and would appreciate being able to game now, that's also not a bad reason to get it now as opposed to later. 

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6 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

I haven't been closely watching prices but I'd go for the Pulse now if you think they're going to keep getting more expensive.

Looking at prisjakt.no, prices seem to range from 4300 - 4500kr so what you might be seeing is just the normal variation in pricing. https://www.prisjakt.no/product.php?p=5170375

If you don't think you'd be kicking yourself in the future for getting a slightly worse card and would appreciate being able to game now, that's also not a bad reason to get it now as opposed to later. 

I will be done buying all the parts in about 2-3 months. Should i be waiting and seeing the new aibs or should i buy the pulse cards straight away.

 

honestly you are a life saver!

Many thanks go to you! 

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1 minute ago, Captain_Norway said:

I will be done buying all the parts in about 2-3 months. Should i be waiting and seeing the new aibs or should i buy the pulse cards straight away.

In that case, I'd wait. That's a while from now and prices tend to drop over time. 

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Just now, WoodenMarker said:

In that case, I'd wait. That's a while from now and prices tend to drop over time. 

Thank you good sir!

That is wise thing to do

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@WoodenMarker people say that nzxt h500 has bad airflow, but how come that many people buy it? Is there a better option than a nzxt h500?

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Just now, Captain_Norway said:

@WoodenMarker people say that nzxt h500 has bad airflow, but how come that many people buy it? Is there a better option than a nzxt h500?

Whether it's good or bad is relative to the case market. I'd say it's average but many people seem to consider anything not nearly the best as bad. 

You can see how it compares to a variety of cases here: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3309-nzxt-h500-case-review-thermals-noise-vs-s340

A case is more than the airflow it can provide and the H500 is an excellent case due to other features including dust filters, fit and finish, aesthetic, etc. 

If you're still looking at case alternatives for better airflow, my go-to is the Meshify C.

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7 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

Whether it's good or bad is relative to the case market. I'd say it's average but many people seem to consider anything not nearly the best as bad. 

You can see how it compares to a variety of cases here: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3309-nzxt-h500-case-review-thermals-noise-vs-s340

A case is more than the airflow it can provide and the H500 is an excellent case due to other features including dust filters, fit and finish, aesthetic, etc. 

If you're still looking at case alternatives for better airflow, my go-to is the Meshify C.

Thanks for the explanation :)!

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On 8/24/2019 at 2:00 PM, Captain_Norway said:

I can’t seem to find the release dates. Do you have a link?

 

Thank you :)

https://www.techpowerup.com/257796/asrock-confirms-mid-august-launch-of-its-custom-rx-5700-xt

 

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I think Steve explains it quite well as the MSI is on sale here in Australia this week but everyone smart is avoiding

 

 

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On 8/24/2019 at 7:14 PM, Genwyn said:

Asus is using the same strix cooler they've been using for a while now, which is a good performer but the aesthetics are getting kinda boring.

Im not sure what powercolor's options are like, not many people are talking about them.  

 

 

 

I really don't know why no one mention it, but PowerColor Red Devil at the moment is the best custom 5700 XT out there...

 

 

Has excellent cooler and 10 VRM phase design VS 7 from the reference.

 

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On 8/26/2019 at 1:44 PM, ukaussi said:

I think Steve explains it quite well as the MSI is on sale here in Australia this week but everyone smart is avoiding

 

 

Yeah thanks for the heads up. The msi rx 5700 mech oc went on sale and is now permanently at the sale price.

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