3700X Mobo

[driftz240]

So im going to get a 5700xt soon, hopefully a red dragon card, but after watching some benchmarks of 2600x (my current cpu) and the 5700xt, it seems like there's a pretty decent bottleneck in some titles. So im thinking of upgrading to a 3700x, because if im upgrading my cpu, might as well get something overkill. My motherboard (asus b450-f gaming) also has to go though, as when i asked before on the forums, people told be the vrm's were shitty and it souldnt be paired with anything more than a ryzen 5. So finally to my question, should i go for a decent b450/x470 board like a tomahawk max, pro carbon, etc, or get a mid range x570 board. Im not on to much of a budget but wouldnt like to go overboard, but im still willing to pay a bit more for mucho rgb lol.

[Morgan MLGman]

For a 5700XT, you don't really need a faster CPU. 2600X will do just fine.

[Epimetheus]

I wouldn't worry though, the 2600x is still pretty capable. Bottlenecks are not that important (former owner of a pentium g5400 with a 1060 3gb lol)

[driftz240]

1 minute ago, Morgan MLGman said:

For a 5700XT, you don't really need a faster CPU. 2600X will do just fine.

I was watching some benchmark videos of a 2600x and 5700xt being beaten out by a 3600 and 5700 though. Plus I'd like like to have the higher core count on the 3700x ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[GoldenLag]

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Asus B450-F Gaming

you allready have an ok B450 board. so just use that. 3700x draws less power than the 2700x. 

[Epimetheus]

1 minute ago, driftz240 said:

I was watching some benchmark videos of a 2600x and 5700xt being beaten out by a 3600 and 5700 though. Plus I'd like like to have the higher core count on the 3700x ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well for what i see the two configurations perform pretty much the same, and you wouldn't have to change motherboard and processor too. 

If however you want it so badly and don't mind to spend money, the b450 tomahawk max would be a pretty great choice due to msi's strong b450 vrms

[Origami Cactus]

I would say your motherboard is fine for a stock 3700x, it is only a 65w part, so it would work fine. No need to spend money.

[Epimetheus]

3 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

I would say your motherboard is fine for a stock 3700x, it is only a 65w part, so it would work fine. No need to spend money.

is it not 95w? wow sure amd has come a long way in terms of power consumption

[driftz240]

5 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

you allready have an ok B450 board. so just use that. 3700x draws less power than the 2700x. 

4 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

I would say your motherboard is fine for a stock 3700x, it is only a 65w part, so it would work fine. No need to spend money.

Ok, last time i asked about the vrm's on that mobo basically the response i got was "dont put anything above a 6 core anywhere near that thing" lol

If i ever wanted to overclock in the future would that become an issue for the vrms?

[Epimetheus]

2 minutes ago, driftz240 said:

Ok, last time i asked about the vrm's on that mobo basically the response i got was "dont put anything above a 6 core anywhere near that thing" lol

If i ever wanted to overclock in the future would that become an issue for the vrms?

I think it meant don't put anything above 65 watts in there. For overclocking i think you could do a bit but not much before it gets toasty, it would be better to watch some videos about it

[driftz240]

1 minute ago, Epimetheus said:

I think it meant don't put anything above 65 watts in there. For overclocking i think you could do a bit but not much before it gets toasty, it would be better to watch some videos about it

Yeah, i guess it wouldn't hurt that much for the motherboard as im stepping down from a 95w to a 65w lol. I dont really plan to oc, just thinking for the future when it starts to show its age, maybe ocing will bring back some life into it and give it another year or so.

[Epimetheus]

You'd probably find out what you need in this video

[Zberg]

2600x is unlikely to bottleneck that card, 6 cores 12 threads, decent clock speeds.  It is probably fine until the upper tier of GPUs honestly

[driftz240]

6 minutes ago, Epimetheus said:

You'd probably find out what you need in this video

Wow, yeah ok. Thanks for that lol. I'll probably just run my 2600x until ive got the spare cash, probably wont be till early next year anyways.

[GoldenLag]

31 minutes ago, driftz240 said:

Ok, last time i asked about the vrm's on that mobo basically the response i got was "dont put anything above a 6 core anywhere near that thing" lol

If i ever wanted to overclock in the future would that become an issue for the vrms?

As long as you dont meddle with AIOs (which is dumb anyways) its fine. 

[driftz240]

30 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

As long as you dont meddle with AIOs (which is dumb anyways) its fine. 

Can i ask why?

[GoldenLag]

17 minutes ago, driftz240 said:

Can i ask why?

AIOs dont provide any airflow over the VRM

They are less reliable

Cost more

And unless you pay quite a significant ammount its worse than a good aircooler 

AIOs also have pump noise in addition to the fan noise. 

 

 

Thats why.

[driftz240]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

AIOs dont provide any airflow over the VRM

They are less reliable

Cost more

And unless you pay quite a significant ammount its worse than a good aircooler 

AIOs also have pump noise in addition to the fan noise. 

 

 

Thats why.

Ok. I already have one (h60) and i have it positioned above the motherboard exhausting air, along with another 120 mil exhausting out the back, is this enough airflow. If not then ill probably just use the stock one or get a noctua.

[Origami Cactus]

19 minutes ago, driftz240 said:

Ok. I already have one (h60) and i have it positioned above the motherboard exhausting air, along with another 120 mil exhausting out the back, is this enough airflow. If not then ill probably just use the stock one or get a noctua.

Stock one would be much better for the VRM's, as it provides direct cooling to them.