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I want to buy something good for photography should I just buy the phone because the dslr seems so bad and they are the same price!

 

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Depends on the camera. This video is also skewed because the Pixel does post processing to the image. If you adjusted the images taken on the Cannon in photoshop or lightroom they would look very similar. Also any smartphone starts to look like utter shit when it isn't high noon with daylight. The DSLR will have better lowlight, you can swap lenses, telephoto zoom, more option in camera for things like long exposure and AF, stores to a better media source, swapable batteries, and loads of accessories available. Most smartphones have pretty decent cameras now days but they fall short in many areas a proper camera will shine in. 

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21 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Depends on the camera. This video is also skewed because the Pixel does post processing to the image. If you adjusted the images taken on the Cannon in photoshop or lightroom they would look very similar. Also any smartphone starts to look like utter shit when it isn't high noon with daylight. The DSLR will have better lowlight, you can swap lenses, telephoto zoom, more option in camera for things like long exposure and AF, stores to a better media source, swapable batteries, and loads of accessories available. Most smartphones have pretty decent cameras now days but they fall short in many areas a proper camera will shine in. 

I want to buy a camera for family photography (you know when on holidays and stuff) and just some  photos of landscapes and stuff for insta. If i buy the canon 200d or the a6000 i wont change lens and i was planning to leave it on auto and just change focus by pressing the screen. Should i buy the pixel?

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1 minute ago, ManosMax13 said:

I want to buy a camera for family photography (you know when on holidays and stuff) and just some  photos of landscapes and stuff for insta. If i buy the canon 200d or the a6000 i wont change lens and i was planning to leave it on auto and just change focus by pressing the screen. Should i buy the pixel?

If you did that you might get annoyed because the pixel only has one fixed lens. So to get closer you have to physically move closer. As with the DSLR you can just zoom in. It's really not hard to focus manually especially for a picture instead of video. But auto will work just fine. 

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4 hours ago, ManosMax13 said:

I want to buy something good for photography should I just buy the phone because the dslr seems so bad and they are the same price!

No matter what you end up buying, you will never be happy with your photos until you learn how to take photos you can be happy with. Don't buy anything and expect it to just "make good pictures". It won't, and you'll get frustrated that you spent a bunch of money with nothing to show for it.

 

Buy your device, but buy a guide to photography or watch tutorial courses as well. Your growth as a photographer will come much easier if you do.

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1 hour ago, LyondellBasell said:

No matter what you end up buying, you will never be happy with your photos until you learn how to take photos you can be happy with. Don't buy anything and expect it to just "make good pictures". It won't, and you'll get frustrated that you spent a bunch of money with nothing to show for it.

 

Buy your device, but buy a guide to photography or watch tutorial courses as well. Your growth as a photographer will come much easier if you do.

But i dont wanna get into the hobby of photography i just wana be able to take pictures of me and my family from my holidays and just some pictures from the landscape or a nice church/tourist attraction/landmark etc...

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35 minutes ago, ManosMax13 said:

But i dont wanna get into the hobby of photography i just wana be able to take pictures of me and my family from my holidays and just some pictures from the landscape or a nice church/tourist attraction/landmark etc...

Then just use the phone you already have and save your money for something else.

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33 minutes ago, LyondellBasell said:

Then just use the phone you already have and save your money for something else.

I dont have one.

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Smartphones tend to have a lot more flexibility in automated post process that tends to turn out superior results to SooC (straight out of camera) shots from fairly recent cameras, given a well lit day and wide Field of View. There is some legwork involved to turn out good results from an SLR, though this flexibility can also be a blessing in that you can make the image your own. Taking manual control on an SLR, while unappealing to the novice, allows for a great deal of creative liberties, such as slow shutter speeds, or stopping down to introduce starbursts.

 

I will say that if you're sticking with the kit lens (usual Apertures for this ilk tend to be 3.5-5.6), you'll probably find that a phone will have superior low light performance, though phones tend to fall apart quickly if forced into higher ISO ranges. While you can turn out good results from the kit lens, sticking to just one lens kind of defeats the point of an SLR.

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32 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

While you can turn out good results from the kit lens, sticking to just one lens kind of defeats the point of an SLR.

That's kind of summarizes things pretty well.

 

Interchangeable lens cameras - DSLR or "mirrorless" - are more about having a lot more flexibility beyond just point and shoot, whereas cell phones have taken over where the old point & shoot cameras used to dominate. Only without the optical zoom. And also without the learning curve that comes with owning a DSLR or mirrorless.

 

@ManosMax13, if you're not willing to learn how to use the DSLR, don't buy it. If you aren't willing to eventually buy additional lenses, or get a kit with multiple lenses, don't buy a DSLR. If you aren't willing to learn about post processing, don't go with a DSLR or mirrorless. Instead go with the cell phone and the snapshots that you'll get with it. Since you've already said you don't have an interest in learning about photography, go with the cell phone. You can get decent results without a lot of effort.

 

The way I've come to see it: DSLRs are like building a PC, while a cell phone is buying a prebuilt. In the latter, you don't have to give it too much thought, whereas the former requires you to be a bit more involved.

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5 hours ago, brandishwar said:

That's kind of summarizes things pretty well.

 

Interchangeable lens cameras - DSLR or "mirrorless" - are more about having a lot more flexibility beyond just point and shoot, whereas cell phones have taken over where the old point & shoot cameras used to dominate. Only without the optical zoom. And also without the learning curve that comes with owning a DSLR or mirrorless.

 

@ManosMax13, if you're not willing to learn how to use the DSLR, don't buy it. If you aren't willing to eventually buy additional lenses, or get a kit with multiple lenses, don't buy a DSLR. If you aren't willing to learn about post processing, don't go with a DSLR or mirrorless. Instead go with the cell phone and the snapshots that you'll get with it. Since you've already said you don't have an interest in learning about photography, go with the cell phone. You can get decent results without a lot of effort.

 

The way I've come to see it: DSLRs are like building a PC, while a cell phone is buying a prebuilt. In the latter, you don't have to give it too much thought, whereas the former requires you to be a bit more involved.

I agree but the thing is i cant afford to buy more lenses and i dont really care about doing some photoshop or something to enchance the image.

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20 hours ago, brandishwar said:

That's kind of summarizes things pretty well.

 

Interchangeable lens cameras - DSLR or "mirrorless" - are more about having a lot more flexibility beyond just point and shoot, whereas cell phones have taken over where the old point & shoot cameras used to dominate. Only without the optical zoom. And also without the learning curve that comes with owning a DSLR or mirrorless.

 

@ManosMax13, if you're not willing to learn how to use the DSLR, don't buy it. If you aren't willing to eventually buy additional lenses, or get a kit with multiple lenses, don't buy a DSLR. If you aren't willing to learn about post processing, don't go with a DSLR or mirrorless. Instead go with the cell phone and the snapshots that you'll get with it. Since you've already said you don't have an interest in learning about photography, go with the cell phone. You can get decent results without a lot of effort.

 

The way I've come to see it: DSLRs are like building a PC, while a cell phone is buying a prebuilt. In the latter, you don't have to give it too much thought, whereas the former requires you to be a bit more involved.

Some higher end compacts are quite nice, actually. I use a Canon G7X Mark II, and by a very long shot, it is the most capable camera I've ever gotten my hands on. I went with this due to the size, as I'm comfortable with small cameras, and as I'd planned to take this literally everywhere with me (workplace included), size was important. Cost was also a factor, as I wanted a flexible, fast lens to learn with. The Kit lens not being fast meant additional investment when I wanted low light performance (as the sensors of cheap, crop sensor cameras actually perform worse at high ISOs than the 1" form factor sensor in mine). My Canon also provides every bit of manual control as can be expected of most SLRs, really only wanting for a hotshoe.

 

If money wasn't a concern, I'd have probably gone with m4/3 (and perhaps have a Medium Format film camera to partner it with for special occasions), but as it stands, that's quite the expensive platform to be on. 

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