Rate my graduation build

[Six07]

So I just graduated and I’ll be building my first pc. 

Goal: AAA titles maxed at 1080p 144Hz + light video editing

Budget and location £1400-£1500 

I did some research and this is what I came up with:

 

EDIT: I already own a 500gb samsung ssd

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£313.98 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler	£54.49 @ Aria PC
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard	£212.40 @ Alza
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	£92.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For £0.00
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£35.58 @ Aria PC
Video Card	MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card	£549.98 @ Box Limited
Case	NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	£69.94 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£83.99 @ AWD-IT
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1413.35
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-21 08:18 BST+0100

 

What would you rate this build?

What would you change?

Thanks.

[Jurrunio]

9 minutes ago, Six07 said:

What would you rate this build?

5/10, no extra case fans (in a case with already subpar airflow) nor SSD.

 

10 minutes ago, Six07 said:

What would you change?

The timing of buying stuff. I'd wait till RX 5700 XT custom cards come out and price war begin before buying new high end cards.

[Aimi]

If your primary use is gaming, then you really want some kind of SSD.

[SupaKomputa]

No SSD? you must be mad. 1TB HDD is nothing, this will fill up quickly. Get a 256gb SSD and 2TB HDD minimum.

Yeah i'll wait for 5700xt if i were you.

[Stormseeker9]

12 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

No SSD? you must be mad. 1TB HDD is nothing, this will fill up quickly. Get a 256gb SSD and 2TB HDD minimum.

Yeah i'll wait for 5700xt if i were you.

In today’s era of streaming only video services  etc my 1TB of ssd’s In my pc are maybe used for  35%.

 

so no, 2TB is not a minimum.

[SupaKomputa]

7 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

In today’s era of streaming only video services  etc my 1TB of ssd’s In my pc are maybe used for  35%.

 

so no, 2TB is not a minimum.

Yeah if streaming is all you do, most people here game, each game can take up to 100gb of space.

My phone have 64gb of storage, every month i have to back up videos of my family, that will take up 1tb easily.

[SHROUD]

47 minutes ago, Six07 said:

...

I'll recommend something like this instead...

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£313.98 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Asus - TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£220.98 @ Aria PC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£89.99 @ Corsair UK) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£94.96 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card  (£475.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£53.42 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1338.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-21 07:53 BST+0100

[Six07]

Oh right, I forgot to mention I already have a 500GB SSD from my current PC that I’ll be using.

 

35 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

5/10, no extra case fans (in a case with already subpar airflow) nor SSD.

 

I watched gamers nexus review on this case. The stock configuration actually helps with gpu temps. Adding more fans at the front as intake just disrupted the negative airflow, raising gpu temps by quite a bit. The cpu is listed as 65W tdp so it should be fine with the dark rock 4 on it.

[Stormseeker9]

6 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Yeah if streaming is all you do, most people here game, each game can take up to 100gb of space.

My phone have 64gb of storage, every month i have to back up videos of my family, that will take up 1tb easily.

Have a 256gb phone, have clouds where all is stored, never ran out of space (I did in the old 16GB models tho haha)

 

I game too, never run into storage issues. So I reiterate - 2TB is no minimum. End of the day it’s the use case of that person. 

[Six07]

31 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

No SSD? you must be mad. 1TB HDD is nothing, this will fill up quickly. Get a 256gb SSD and 2TB HDD minimum.

Yeah i'll wait for 5700xt if i were you.

I currently have a 1TB HDD and 500GB SSD. I find that for me this is enough storage

[SupaKomputa]

3 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Have a 256gb phone, have clouds where all is stored, never ran out of space (I did in the old 16GB models tho haha)

 

I game too, never run into storage issues. So I reiterate - 2TB is no minimum. End of the day it’s the use case of that person. 

1tb and 2tb is only $20 away, is cheap, why not get the most.

256gb on a phone is like a ssd haha. No wonder you never ran out of space.

2 minutes ago, Six07 said:

I currently have a 1TB HDD and 500GB SSD. I find that for me this is enough storage

why don't you say so.

[Six07]

3 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

why don't you say so.

Yeah I forgot to mention I already had an SSD. My bad on that

[Six07]

53 minutes ago, SHROUD said:

I'll recommend something like this instead...

PCPartPicker Part List
Motherboard: Asus - TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  

Thanks. I was actually choosing between that mobo and the gigabyte one. I ended up choosing the gigabyte one since it comes with intel LAN instead of Realtek.

Apparently intel LAN is better? Is that true?

[Jurrunio]

8 hours ago, Six07 said:

The cpu is listed as 65W tdp so it should be fine with the dark rock 4 on it.

TDP is meaningless, Ryzen CPUs draw power following the board's TDC and EDC limit (basically power limit and current limit) with little regard on TDP ratings. Imo just like Intel, TDP only refers to base clock. Realistically it's about 120w.. still quite good but not good enough for this case. This case is pretty much liquid cooling only for high end hardware. The stock fans aren't that good from what I hear, that's why I suggest swapping them out.

 

7 hours ago, Six07 said:

Thanks. I was actually choosing between that mobo and the gigabyte one. I ended up choosing the gigabyte one since it comes with intel LAN instead of Realtek.

Apparently intel LAN is better? Is that true?

Intel LAN is more stable. imo only TUF with Wifi is attractive since you're not getting Wifi and good VRM on any other board for about $200 with PCIe 4

[Six07]

16 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

TDP is meaningless, Ryzen CPUs draw power following the board's TDC and EDC limit (basically power limit and current limit) with little regard on TDP ratings. Imo just like Intel, TDP only refers to base clock. Realistically it's about 120w.. still quite good but not good enough for this case. This case is pretty much liquid cooling only for high end hardware. The stock fans aren't that good from what I hear, that's why I suggest swapping them out.

 

Intel LAN is more stable. imo only TUF with Wifi is attractive since you're not getting Wifi and good VRM on any other board for about $200 with PCIe 4

I see, thanks a lot for the info

So the build now looks like this:

- Changed to liquid cooling. Is the H100i PRO fine or would you recommend a different AIO?

- Kept the Aorus Elite since it has Intel LAN and I don't care about Wifi

- For the case fans, what would you recommend?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£313.98 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	£86.61 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard	£212.40 @ Alza
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	£89.99 @ Corsair UK
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For £0.00
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£35.58 @ Aria PC
Video Card	MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card	£549.98 @ Box Limited
Case	NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	£69.94 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£53.42 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1411.90
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-21 16:49 BST+0100

  

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Six07 said:

I see, thanks a lot for the info

So the build now looks like this:

- Changed to liquid cooling. Is the H100i PRO fine or would you recommend a different AIO?

- Kept the Aorus Elite since it has Intel LAN and I don't care about Wifi

- For the case fans, what would you recommend?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	£313.98 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	£86.61 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard	£212.40 @ Alza
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	£89.99 @ Corsair UK
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For £0.00
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£35.58 @ Aria PC
Video Card	MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card	£549.98 @ Box Limited
Case	NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	£69.94 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£53.42 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1411.90
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-21 16:49 BST+0100

  

Why not go with the Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super Gaming OC for £40 less ? You get 4 years warranty when registered online.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/JgsnTW/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-n207sgaming-oc-8gc

 

 

[Six07]

9 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

Why not go with the Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super Gaming OC for £40 less ? You get 4 years warranty when registered online.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/JgsnTW/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-n207sgaming-oc-8gc

 

 

I will be overclocking the GPU to get 2080 performance, and since it is within budget I figured why not get the Gaming X Trio since it seems to run cooler.

 

Would the Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super Gaming OC be fine for that?

If it is then I'll save the money and use it for replacing the case fans.

 

 

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Six07 said:

I will be overclocking the GPU to get 2080 performance, and since it is within budget I figured why not get the Gaming X Trio since it seems to run cooler.

 

Would the Gigabyte RTX 2070 Super Gaming OC be fine for that?

If it is then I'll save the money and use it for replacing the case fans.

 

 

The Gigabyte card seems to run pretty cool and isn't noisy according to the review below. You might not have as much overclocking headroom as the MSI but it won't be a massive difference anyway in terms of fps.

 

https://www.eteknix.com/gigabyte-rtx-2070-super-gaming-oc-graphics-card-review/

 

[Six07]

51 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

The Gigabyte card seems to run pretty cool and isn't noisy according to the review below. You might not have as much overclocking headroom as the MSI but it won't be a massive difference anyway in terms of fps.

 

https://www.eteknix.com/gigabyte-rtx-2070-super-gaming-oc-graphics-card-review/

 

The Gigabyte card is out of stock.

Amazon has it but it's "usually dispatched within 1 to 2 months" and I won't be waiting that long.

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, Six07 said:

The Gigabyte card is out of stock.

Amazon has it but it's "usually dispatched within 1 to 2 months" and I won't be waiting that long.

Ugh pcpartpicker is annoying sometimes showing things in stock that are out of stock.

 

Looks like it is pre-order, as one of the other sites has it for release on 5th Aug. A bit more expensive from there, although still £20 less then the MSI. 

 

https://www.box.co.uk/GV-N207SGAMING-OC-8GC-Gigabyte-GeForce-RTX-2070-SUPER-GAMING-O_2663500.html?wgu=13045_206719_15637471557825_0a2e651d68&wgexpiry=1571523155&source=webgains&siteid=206719

 

With Amazon it says you can get it by Aug 25th when you go to checkout, but the earliest date says by the 7th Aug.

 

I guess if you need it ASAP then stick with the MSI card.

[LogicWeasel]

10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

on TDP ratings. Imo just like Intel, TDP only refers to base clock. Realistically it's about 120w

I recall seeing reports (I think it was LTT and maybe another publication) mentioned that AMD bases it's TDP on the boost-clock of the chip while Intel uses base-clock, making a comparison of the two apples to oranges because they measure differently.  So actually you shouldn't really need an aggressive cooler for the Ryzen 3600 if you're running it stock, the stock cooler will perform fine.  With a beefy cooler will there be a bit more thermal head-room for PBO but that just means the CPU can/will optimize for what it has room for.

[Jurrunio]

36 minutes ago, LogicWeasel said:

mentioned that AMD bases it's TDP on the boost-clock of the chip

boost clock in all core? It's 170w for 3900X from the EPS 8pin, so go figure

[Six07]

@LogicWeasel @Jurrunio so will I be fine with a Dark Rock 4 on the 3700X or not? I'm confused

[Guest]

26 minutes ago, Six07 said:

@LogicWeasel @Jurrunio so will I be fine with a Dark Rock 4 on the 3700X or not? I'm confused

Yeah more than fine.