i7 9900K vs 3700x

[Arisspartiatis]

 

hello so i found a deal where they have no huge difference in price so i was wondering which one to choose
i will match the rig with an rtx 2060!any ideas?thnx

[ManosMax13]

Ryzen for sure! Intel cpus for now at least cant compete.

[ManosMax13]

Just now, ManosMax13 said:

Ryzen for sure! Intel cpus for now at least cant compete.

Also welcome to the forum, are you greek?

[SupaKomputa]

9900k is leading in performance.

But for the whole system it maybe cheaper to buy 3700x since it can use older motherboard.

[ManosMax13]

2 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

9900k is leading in performance.

But for the whole system it maybe cheaper to buy 3700x since it can use older motherboard.

Well ok then if I was playing a game and I could get 20 fps more with a 18k cpu and I had the ryzen as an option I would buy the ryzen.

[GoldenLag]

3700x is the obvious choice. You can step up to a 3900x for the same price as a 9900k if you wanted to. All of them are more than capable to keep up with the 2060

[SupaKomputa]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

3700x is the obvious choice. You can step up to a 3900x for the same price as a 9900k if you wanted to. All of them are more than capable to keep up with the 2060

He said the 9900k is the same price as 3700x.

core to core, 9900k is still leading, sadly.

[ManosMax13]

1 minute ago, SupaKomputa said:

He said the 9900k is the same price as 3700x.

core to core, 9900k is still leading, sadly.

Wait there is no i7 9900k

[SpookyCitrus]

3700X for sure! It's on par and even better than the 9900k in some

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

He said the 9900k is the same price as 3700x.

core to core, 9900k is still leading, sadly.

By 7%... watch any benchmark for the most part the 3700x is on par with the 9900K even beating it in some instances. The 3700X could kill it just by overclocking it, and for almost $200 cheaper, it really is the obvious choice.

[ManosMax13]

1 minute ago, SpookyCitrus said:

3700X for sure! It's on par and even better than the 9900k in some

By 7%... watch any benchmark for the most part the 3700x is on par with the 9900K even beating it in some instances. The 3700X could kill it just by overclocking it, and for almost $200 cheaper, it really is the obvious choice.

He means the i7 9700k

[GoldenLag]

8 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

He said the 9900k is the same price as 3700x.

core to core, 9900k is still leading, sadly.

Ah, missed that part.

 

If thats the case. Whichever is cheaper with an OC mobo.

 

So either z390 + 9900k or 3700x + B450 Tomahawk

[SupaKomputa]

5 minutes ago, ManosMax13 said:

He means the i7 9700k

Very likely. It's strange greece is the only country with the price drop.

Another thing to consider, the 3700x opens up the path to 16 cores, which intel's lacking.

[Blind X]

Whether it is the i7 9700K or the i9 9900K. In both cases 3700X is a better option as it will beat the i7 9700K hands down and is right on par with the i9 9900K in every benchmark whether it is gaming or any sort of workload and that difference can easily be covered with some overclocking. Also with that difference in price there is no comparision between them whatsoever.

[Blind X]

10 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Ah, missed that part.

LoL missed that too XD,

 

If thats the case the i9 9900K will be better as it is faster out of the box and has more overclocking potential.

[MeatFeastMan]

160fps for $500 or 150fps for $329. I know which one I'm picking. And it definitely isn't the $500 one.

 

And if the price is the same...the 3700x has a cooler worth around $30, slightly better multicore performance and far better power consumption. That for me outweighs that extra 10fps which is completely unnoticeable.

[ManosMax13]

1 hour ago, Blind-X said:

LoL missed that too XD,

 

If thats the case the i9 9900K will be better as it is faster out of the box and has more overclocking potential.

He means i7 9700k

[Blind X]

Just now, ManosMax13 said:

He means i7 9700k

 

1 hour ago, Blind-X said:

Whether it is the i7 9700K or the i9 9900K. In both cases 3700X is a better option as it will beat the i7 9700K hands down and is right on par with the i9 9900K in every benchmark whether it is gaming or any sort of workload and that difference can easily be covered with some overclocking. Also with that difference in price there is no comparision between them whatsoever.

 

[Zberg]

Definitely depends on your specific use for your PC.  Gamers nexus did a nice breakdown of all this and the pro's and cons of the upper level chips (9700, 9900, 3700, 3900), and kyle (bitwit) did a nice one too (talks about gaming only, gaming plus streaming, gaming + editing, editing only, etc).  They are nicely done videos check them out.

 

Certainly prices you can pick things up for will change the value calculation as well.  9900k was a TERRIBLE value at 550+ when it first came out, I just saw it on sale for 440 though, and if it drops lower it might look a little tastier to some.  

 

What is most important to you?  Value?  Gaming, streaming, workstation?  

 

Regardless, the awesome punch back from AMD is a great thing for buyers right now!

[Dedayog]

2 hours ago, Blind-X said:

Whether it is the i7 9700K or the i9 9900K. In both cases 3700X is a better option as it will beat the i7 9700K hands down and is right on par with the i9 9900K in every benchmark whether it is gaming or any sort of workload and that difference can easily be covered with some overclocking. Also with that difference in price there is no comparision between them whatsoever.

You need to watch more benchmarks.  This is flat out incorrect.  On par in every benchmark?  The new Ryzens are good they are still a step behind in gaming, and whether this factors into the value of the card or not, is up to the buyer.

 

But at least be objective, give facts and let the OP decide.

[TahoeDust]

How do the two compare with a good stable 24/7 overclock?  Would a well overclocked 3700x keep up with my 5.1GHz 9900k?

[Dedayog]

3 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

How do the two compare with a good stable 24/7 overclock?  Would a well overclocked 3700x keep up with my 5.1GHz 9900k?

Haven't seen any other OC videos yet but this one so far...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLwbhxckfqc

 

I'd love to see benchmarks where it is on par with the 9900K as started above.  I'll keep looking.

[TahoeDust]

38 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Haven't seen any other OC videos yet but this one so far...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLwbhxckfqc

 

I'd love to see benchmarks where it is on par with the 9900K as started above.  I'll keep looking.

If anyone on here has a nicely overclocked 3700x, maybe we can run some stuff and compare. 

[foxxyman]

ya'll might check out linus's video...

[Blind X]

6 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

You need to watch more benchmarks.  This is flat out incorrect.  On par in every benchmark?  The new Ryzens are good they are still a step behind in gaming, and whether this factors into the value of the card or not, is up to the buyer.

 

But at least be objective, give facts and let the OP decide.

Intel is the king when it comes to gaming. And will obviously squeeze 10 more fps. What I am saying is that the 9700K is no match for 3700X because the 3700X has the hyper-threading advantage there at close price points. You might get 10 more fps from the 9700K but if you stream or have some applications running in the background, the 3700X will show u who is the Boss here.

 

Moving on towards the 9900K, first we don't know whether this guy is talking about the i7 9700K or the i9 9900K. If there is some sort of deal on the 9900K which somehow leaves no big difference in price then hands down the 9900K is a better option, here see my quote;

9 hours ago, Blind-X said:

LoL missed that too XD,

 

If thats the case the i9 9900K will be better as it is faster out of the box and has more overclocking potential.

What I was saying before was when 3700X is compared with the i9 9900K, the i9 is 7-10% faster but when you see the huge difference in their price 180-200$. Its not worth spending that much when u can save those bucks, get a better cooler, overclock the ryzen chip and then it will be right on par with the 9900K and with some tweaks it will even surpass 9900K (out of the box).

[Blind X]

Watch this Linus video:

 

The 9900K might be a litlle bit faster when it comes to gaming which I said that this distance can be covered with some overclocking. But the 3700X absolutely destroys it in every other workload.

And these are Linus's words himself; "The Ryzen 7 3700X mostly matches the Core i9 9900K blow for blow but is priced lower than the core i7 9700K which lacks hyper-threading".

 

So;
IN GAMING
i7 9700K<Ryzen 7 3700X<i9 9900K<Ryzen 7 3700X Overclocked

IN OTHER WORKLOADS

i7 9700K<i9 9900K<Ryzen 7 3700X