Need help on $750 CAD build

[Daniel Z.]

Notes/requirements

I already have the GPU (EVGA XC Ultra 1660)

Preferably white with tempered glass

Preferably RGB RAM

Will mostly be used for gaming but sometimes with multi-threaded tasks

All SSD storage would be good

 

Heres what I have planned, I would get the 3600 probably instead of the 2600 but it’s a placeholder

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$209.99 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$106.43 @ Vuugo
Memory	Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$109.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$129.99 @ Canada Computers
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	Purchased For $0.00
Case	EVGA - DG-77 ATX Mid Tower Case	$109.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	EVGA - B3 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$79.99 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$771.38
	Mail-in rebates	-$25.00
	Total	$746.38
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-15 23:45 EDT-0400

 

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

 

If you're going for Ryzen 3000 you probably want an MSI B450 board that can flash the bios without a CPU, but wait for motherboard compatibility testing anyways. Also wait to buy the RAM too because it's going to have major improvements and it may be worth getting something higher than 3200mhz, or getting B-die specifically again.

Should also get a case that actually has airflow, though I think white is going to be pretty limiting there

This one at least has a mesh front
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/bLPzK8/diypc-case-d480w

[jerubedo]

For the tower:

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/cDfhP6/corsair-carbide-spec-06-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011147-ww

 

Thermal performance is pretty excellent as seen here:

 

https://techbuyersguru.com/corsair-carbide-spec-06-rgb-atx-case-review?page=2

[Turtle Rig]

19 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

Notes/requirements

I already have the GPU (EVGA XC Ultra 1660)

Preferably white with tempered glass

Preferably RGB RAM

Will mostly be used for gaming but sometimes with multi-threaded tasks

All SSD storage would be good

 

Heres what I have planned, I would get the 3600 probably instead of the 2600 but it’s a placeholder

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$209.99 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$106.43 @ Vuugo
Memory	Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$109.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$129.99 @ Canada Computers
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	Purchased For $0.00
Case	EVGA - DG-77 ATX Mid Tower Case	$109.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	EVGA - B3 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$79.99 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$771.38
	Mail-in rebates	-$25.00
	Total	$746.38
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-15 23:45 EDT-0400

 

Wait until July 7 and grab a Ryzen Zen 2 8 core 16 thread CPU for around 300 bucks and what not.  Very wrong move if you pull the trigger on that Ryzen 5 1 month away from new CPU launch.

[jerubedo]

2 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Wait until July 7 and grab a Ryzen Zen 2 8 core 16 thread CPU for around 300 bucks and what not.  Very wrong move if you pull the trigger on that Ryzen 5 1 month away from new CPU launch.

He's already getting the 3600 and stated that the 2600 is just a placeholder.

[Daniel Z.]

22 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

If you're going for Ryzen 3000 you probably want an MSI B450 board that can flash the bios without a CPU, but wait for motherboard compatibility testing anyways. Also wait to buy the RAM too because it's going to have major improvements and it may be worth getting something higher than 3200mhz, or getting B-die specifically again.

Should also get a case that actually has airflow, though I think white is going to be pretty limiting there

This one at least has a mesh front
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/bLPzK8/diypc-case-d480w

Ok, well would the B450-F Strix be good? I know the VRMs aren’t great, but I don’t plan to overclock much and the MSI Tomahawk has no optical audio, less USB ports, and looks worse IMO.

 

I know it has no airflow, maybe the Meshify C would be better? I just really like the looks of the DG-77 and how it has a vertical GPU mount with riser cable included. I would be fine with worse temps as long as it’s not too bad. The Ryzen 5 chips don’t put out that much heat, and my GPU is even better in that regard. The boost button is also interesting to me.

17 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

For the tower:

 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/cDfhP6/corsair-carbide-spec-06-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011147-ww

 

Thermal performance is pretty excellent as seen here:

 

https://techbuyersguru.com/corsair-carbide-spec-06-rgb-atx-case-review?page=2

I see, but I would rather go with the 275R for a Corsair case.

[jerubedo]

3 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

I see, but I would rather go with the 275R for a Corsair case. 

That works too! Similar thermals.

[Streetguru]

22 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

 

That's not a great review if that's all of their data points, they didn't even mention what temperature the room was, what the load was on the GPU, and the CPU cooler is massive.

That case is by design going to be worse than a mesh case in general.

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

 

If you don't get a board that lets you flash the Bios without a CPU installed you'll want to wait until motherboards are properly updated with "Ryzen 3000" ready or something on their store pages.

 

The gigabyte B450 boards are the ones to go for in that case. They have a wide 4 phase VRM at least.

[jerubedo]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

That's not a great review if that's all of their data points, they didn't even mention what temperature the room was, what the load was on the GPU, and the CPU cooler is massive.

That case is by design going to be worse than a mesh case in general.

I have plenty more data Here's another source with listed ambient temps and what they did. The first article did a good job of explaining WHY this particular case performs so well when it seemingly shouldn't: positioning of the front fan, and the distance from it and the GPU, and the concavity of the front allowing for a significant opening on the sides to allow airflow in.

 

https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_carbide_spec_06_rgb_review,9.html

[VEXICUS]

49 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

Notes/requirements

I already have the GPU (EVGA XC Ultra 1660)

Preferably white with tempered glass

Preferably RGB RAM

Will mostly be used for gaming but sometimes with multi-threaded tasks

All SSD storage would be good

 

Heres what I have planned, I would get the 3600 probably instead of the 2600 but it’s a placeholder

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$209.99 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$106.43 @ Vuugo
Memory	Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$109.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$129.99 @ Canada Computers
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	Purchased For $0.00
Case	EVGA - DG-77 ATX Mid Tower Case	$109.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	EVGA - B3 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$79.99 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$771.38
	Mail-in rebates	-$25.00
	Total	$746.38
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-15 23:45 EDT-0400

 

Build this instead......

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($209.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card  (Purchased For $0.00) 
Case: NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Total: $754.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-16 00:35 EDT-0400

[zlolslavez]

Apparently AMD isn't recommending you to use older mobos with their new CPUs, so the only thing you could really pick out is case powersupply and memory.

[Streetguru]

14 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

 

that seems unlikely given that the fan has almost no access to air, more than likely the holes in the PCI-e bracket are letting in some air for the GPU, and the top of the case is all mesh so the CPU can get air from there.

[jerubedo]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

that seems unlikely given that the fan has almost no access to air, more than likely the holes in the PCI-e bracket are letting in some air for the GPU, and the top of the case is all mesh so the CPU can get air from there.

Those side gaps are bigger than they appear, and they allow a pretty decent amount of air in through the front. Either way, even if that's not the reason, both reviews show that the temps are pretty good, especially for the price point.

[trevb0t]

I would place any current gen board as a placeholder, and hold out for the B550/X570 series. 

It looks like MSI alone has a pretty nasty lineup coming. (And it's pretty much all RGB.)