MSI vs ASUS

[ch3w2oy]

I'm upgrading to X570 and Zen 2, practically once it's released.. 

 

I need help deciding between 2 motherboards that should fit my budget ($400?)..

 

Is there any reason(s) I should not choose MSI for my X570 motherboard? 

 

If pricing is similar and the VRMs check out for both, I'd like to pick either the 

 

MSI X570 MEG ACE

-or-

ASUS X570 CROSSHAIR VIII HERO

 

(I would love the Godlike or Extreme, but let's be realistic for a minute) 

 

Now, I don't care about which has the best features for X570, I'm strictly asking you guys to give advice based on experience or knowledge between the two companies that you may have accrued through the lengths of time.. 'Which one has better performance most of the time? Which overclocks better? Which BIOS looks nicer? Software? Mystic Light vs Aura Sync?' Anything you may be able to shed light on.. 

 

I believe the ACE would fit my build a lot better than the the Hero.. IT IS the one I'm leaning towards right now.. I have an X470 Crosshair VII right now and I love the board, handles everything like a beast. I had the Gaming 7 before and I just enjoy the Crosshair so much more.. I also had the Z390 Aorus Ultra and that trumps both, IMO..

 

I haven't tried ANY MSI boards, so I'm stuck.. As of right now I want the ACE over the Crosshair VIII Hero.. 

 

I know Asus will be great, even if it lacks features the other high end boards will have.. I know it'll be expensive, I'm not worried about physical features like headers right now.. I know (as long as good VRMs) that it will be a badass board for Ryzen if it's anything like the X470 version. 

 

Can you persuade me not to buy the MSI? It's appearance is stunning and I want it! It looks so close to the Godlike too, which looks fucking amazing! 

 

I'M NOT WAITING FOR REVIEWS (unless they're already out).. Please help me with any experience or knowledge you may have..

 

MSI wasn't recommended before with previous generations except for when it came to B450, and everyone that had one loved it.. 

 

I'm also considering Gigabyte but I don't care much for the color scheme on the Master.. The Extreme very well be my next board, but I don't want to talk about that one until pricing is out. 

[Stormseeker9]

I have a B450 board from MSI and absolutely love it. I mean it works, heaps of functionality and looks good. No experience with asus, so I vote MSI

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[Jurrunio]

8 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

Which one has better performance most of the time?

Asus dont screw up as frequently as MSI does

8 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

Which overclocks better?

In CPU, they're the same. MSI might have better efficiency, Asus might have better transient response. MSI clocks memory higher, Asus has a ton more presets.

8 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

I'M NOT WAITING FOR REVIEWS (unless they're already out)

We need a doctor with a LOT of anesthetic here

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[nick name]

I think you know my answer, but wasn't MSI the last to add VCORE offset?  Like just a few months ago?

[Jurrunio]

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[ch3w2oy]

7 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

I have a B450 board from MSI and absolutely love it. I mean it works, heaps of functionality and looks good. No experience with asus, so I vote MSI

I really want to try them.. I have an MSI GE72VR notebook and it's a beast! IIRC, the software can be a pain to get right.. It took me forever to install it the way it was needed to get, whatever their all in one program is called, it working correctly.. 

 

I won't hold that against them, though.. 

 

I live the fact it's almost identical to the Godlike, it's appearance is really doing a number on me.. The Hero looks great as well, but I love black!! 

 

4 minutes ago, nick name said:

I think you know my answer, but wasn't MSI the last to add VCORE offset?  Like just a few months ago?

Lol I know your answer.. And yes they recently added it.. I have my CH7 set with manual voltage anyway.. 

 

I really like their design this time around and I want to try Mystic Light.. 

 

Whatever I do, I don't want to sacrifice performance.. And so this is where I need help.. Will one board outperform the other? 

 

I care more about CPU overclocking than RAM OC.. (I know we don't know how well they'll OC yet).. 

 

12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Asus dont screw up as frequently as MSI does

In CPU, they're the same. MSI might have better efficiency, Asus might have better transient response. MSI clocks memory higher, Asus has a ton more presets.

We need a doctor with a LOT of anesthetic here

Which would you go with? You think I'll be fine with the MSI for heavy overclocking? 

[Jurrunio]

10 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

Which would you go with? You think I'll be fine with the MSI for heavy overclocking? 

Ya, good enough for either your voltage or your CPU cooling to be a problem before the board.

[ch3w2oy]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Ya, good enough for either your voltage or your CPU cooling to be a problem before the board.

Thanks for the reassurance..

 

I've seen quite a few people here, among other places, complaining about their MSI boards, so I just want to be on the safe side.. 

 

The voltage offset that @nick name mentioned above was actually one reason I didn't try MSI sooner (buildzoids fault).. 

[SliceT]

Asus Crosshair and Taichi has been the best motherboards for AMD CPUs since the X370, both in features and design, I'm curious to see how they perform on the new X570, on paper looks pretty good, now lets see some real reviews.

The thing with MSI is that somehow their motherboards don't clock as high as Asrock from my experience, had the same CPU on different motherboards and the Taichi was the king in terms of overclocking headroom.

[ch3w2oy]

1 hour ago, SliceT said:

Asus Crosshair and Taichi has been the best motherboards for AMD CPUs since the X370, both in features and design, I'm curious to see how they perform on the new X570, on paper looks pretty good, now lets see some real reviews.

The thing with MSI is that somehow their motherboards don't clock as high as Asrock from my experience, had the same CPU on different motherboards and the Taichi was the king in terms of overclocking headroom.

Interesting. The Taichi and Phantom Gaming both look interesting as well.. Its there a difference in preformance between those two? I like the phantoms looks slightly better. 

 

My problem with them is I used a Z370 Gaming K6 and it just left a sour taste in my mouth.. Maybe it was an older boards but I didn't like it at all.. 

[Lefteh]

Asus is top notch but if you really want to look that hard into check out buildzoids channel, he reviews motherboards, there vrms and overclocking potential of boards, ect. Hes been going over some of the x570 boards that have images released to the public and when the new zen 2 boards come out hes going to go over pretty much all of them.

[Biggerboot]

To me if I'm in the neighborhood of spending $400 on a board I may as well get the best, that usually being whatever Asus is offering at the top.  MSi does generally give you good value though and with the 400 series they really delivered in the mid range.

 

But if you're telling me to completely ignore reviews and go with my gut, Asus Crosshair.

[Princess Luna]

I'll go with neither.

 

Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme will be the est X570 motherboard out there.

[ch3w2oy]

38 minutes ago, Biggerboot said:

To me if I'm in the neighborhood of spending $400 on a board I may as well get the best, that usually being whatever Asus is offering at the top.  MSi does generally give you good value though and with the 400 series they really delivered in the mid range.

 

But if you're telling me to completely ignore reviews and go with my gut, Asus Crosshair.

Not to ignore them.. If they're out I will most certainly take them into consideration.. I'm just not waiting to buy stuff.. I also think the Crosshair VIII Hero will be great! I kind of just like trying new things lol.

 

I've tried Gigabyte and Asus high end on Z390 and X470, now I want to try something different and MSI has a board that appeals to me..

 

28 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

I'll go with neither.

 

Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme will be the est X570 motherboard out there.

Why? Just because of the VRMs? Or is it the features..?

 

Don't get me wrong, if I have the money when it comes time to buy, the Extreme is #1 on my list.. Godlike is 2nd.. The Master doesn't really appeal to me this time around.. I loved the Aorus Ultra I had for Z390, but I feel there are better options this time around.. (I'm not particularly concerned about VRMs unless a board is seriously lacking. I'm also not buying a 16 core processor).

[ch3w2oy]

1 hour ago, Lefteh said:

Asus is top notch but if you really want to look that hard into check out buildzoids channel, he reviews motherboards, there vrms and overclocking potential of boards, ect. Hes been going over some of the x570 boards that have images released to the public and when the new zen 2 boards come out hes going to go over pretty much all of them.

I watch his videos.. That's why I didn't try MSI before lol. He stated he wouldn't buy MSI due to it not having offset voltage.. At the time, I didn't know what all those things meant.. Now I'm aware it's not that important lol. He does make great videos, though, and I at least skim through most of the important ones..