Why are Intel m/boards generally better?

[EpicczDiddy]

For example, let me go on overclockers.co.uk

The 4 highest priced AMD boards

 

Where as if I look at the Intel side, the top 6 highest (the pages displayed differently)

 

 

I know AMD is usually seen as the cheaper option, but they do have some beastly CPU's, like the 9590. So why do Intel get the love?

 

[Ryan Leech]

Because intel cpus cost more. Those who spend more on their cpu are willing to spend more on their motherboard.

[miyabwah]

because intel is the enthusiast platform.

[cjeffcoatjr]

Intel has more lanes on LGA 1150 and LGA 2011 than AMD does on AM3+, therefore more can be done with Intel boards making them cost more. 

[wng_kingsley7]

Not soo true AMD have established their market for micro-processor in the budget oriented audience where as Intel ssomewhat (in a sense) over-exaggerated the use for their micro-processors for the elite 1337 extreme overclockers.

[EpicczDiddy]

Because intel cpus cost more. Those who spend more on their cpu are willing to spend more on their motherboard.

 

 

Im sure AMD users are willing to pay for higher quality motherboards.

 

because intel is the enthusiast platform.

 

Well Tek Syndicate recently posted a video of their new render station, which was AMD.

[Jvagle875]

I don't think you can count 2011 boards. But honestly, for most people AMD boards offer good value for money just like their cpus. They are targeting a different audience for the most part. That being said, spending that much on an 1150 board seems a bit out there.

[Ryan Leech]

Im sure AMD users are willing to pay for higher quality motherboards.

 

 

Well Tek Syndicate recently posted a video of their new render station, which was AMD.

I'm willing to spend more too, but we're the minority. Most AMD guys are looking for a sub $100 motherboard and don't need Quad SLI board with a 24+4 power phase.

[Jvagle875]

Im sure AMD users are willing to pay for higher quality motherboards.

 

 

Well Tek Syndicate recently posted a video of their new render station, which was AMD.

Not entirely because it was better than say 2011, but because that's what they had. They 8350/9590 is nothing to sneeze at, but I'm not really sure it can hold a candle to intels 6 core 2011 chip in terms of rendering. But I could be wrong...

[cjeffcoatjr]

Im sure AMD users are willing to pay for higher quality motherboards.

 

 

Well Tek Syndicate recently posted a video of their new render station, which was AMD.

Unless Wendell did it or said it, there is a high chance that anything tek syndicate does isnt actually accurate or the best choice. 

[Coombzy]

I also notice something the AMD boards are not, some of the intel ones are pre done liquid cooling ready boards they would be more expensive 

[VincentC]

Im sure AMD users are willing to pay for higher quality motherboards.

 

 

Well Tek Syndicate recently posted a video of their new render station, which was AMD.

Tek Syndicate has horrible audio for the amount of time they waste pushing their 35 dollar altoids amp, their ridiculous microphone cover can't even block out the sounds of their computers.

[Ryan Leech]

Not entirely because it was better than say 2011, but because that's what they had. They 8350/9590 is nothing to sneeze at, but I'm not really sure it can hold a candle to intels 6 core 2011 chip in terms of rendering. But I could be wrong...

A 6 core i7 has 12 threads vs the 8350's 8 threads, meaning intel will win that comparison. But you have to take price into account as a 6 core i7 will cost around $550 while the 8350 is around $179.

[wng_kingsley7]

Being better isn't just about looks and features but making an all-rounder board that is efficient, reliable, cost effective and sustains a wide variety of surplus values.

[That Norwegian Guy]

Better on-chip controllers in Intel dies as well as much better and feature-rich chipsets. AMD are pouring all their R&D money into simply keeping up an illusion of competitiveness on the pound-for-pound performance of the CPUs themselves.

 

That said, AMD are doing an admirable job of staying in the 'race' despite having only a fraction of Intel's investment and R&D heft.

 

Also, while APU as a concept was sort of a way of admitting defeat in the enthusiast segment, it may have done AMD more good than harm since they've opened up a very hungry-looking market for themselves.

 

Good times ahead for AMD, I'd say.

[Jvagle875]

A 6 core i7 has 12 threads vs the 8350's 8 threads, meaning intel will win that comparison. But you have to take price into account as a 6 core i7 will cost around $550 while the 8350 is around $179.

That's what I'm saying. The 8350 is a great value for money and something that I recommend a lot. But if you want pure performance, 2011 is king. So while the 8350 may be the best bang/buck for the amateur, if your livelyhood depends on the amount of rendering you can get done per hour, 4930k is the better value.

[Jvagle875]

Better on-chip controllers in Intel dies as well as much better and feature-rich chipsets. AMD are pouring all their R&D money into simply keeping up an illusion of competitiveness on the pound-for-pound performance of the CPUs themselves.

 

That said, AMD are doing an admirable job of staying in the 'race' despite having only a fraction of Intel's investment and R&D heft.

 

Also, while APU as a concept was sort of a way of admitting defeat in the enthusiast segment, it may have done AMD more good than harm since they've opened up a very hungry-looking market for themselves.

 

Good times ahead for AMD, I'd say.

I agree, I am quite excited to see the future of AMD. I've always felt that they were very good at what they do given what they have to work with.

[EpicczDiddy]

That's what I'm saying. The 8350 is a great value for money and something that I recommend a lot. But if you want pure performance, 2011 is king. So while the 8350 may be the best bang/buck for the amateur, if your livelyhood depends on the amount of rendering you can get done per hour, 4930k is the better value.

 

I know this. Intel do make the higher end, more powerful CPU's. But it feels like the AMD side get ignored when it comes to m/boards.

[EpicczDiddy]

Better on-chip controllers in Intel dies as well as much better and feature-rich chipsets. AMD are pouring all their R&D money into simply keeping up an illusion of competitiveness on the pound-for-pound performance of the CPUs themselves.

 

That said, AMD are doing an admirable job of staying in the 'race' despite having only a fraction of Intel's investment and R&D heft.

 

Also, while APU as a concept was sort of a way of admitting defeat in the enthusiast segment, it may have done AMD more good than harm since they've opened up a very hungry-looking market for themselves.

 

Good times ahead for AMD, I'd say.

 

Their best APU can play BF4 at 30 fps on medium. 2 generation old graphics cards cant do that. That is crazy.

[Kamina]

Market shares. Intel has a larger audience and is targeted towards most enthusiasts. 

[EpicczDiddy]

Market shares. Intel has a larger audience and is targeted towards most enthusiasts. 

 

I'll be honest I was suprised to see an AMD sticker on my grandma's laptop.

[Jvagle875]

I know this. Intel do make the higher end, more powerful CPU's. But it feels like the AMD side get ignored when it comes to m/boards.

I know what you mean, when I was/am shopping for an AMD board and they have more options, when you look at it from say Asus' point of view, why would they make boards for a less popular platform? I don't know specific numbers, but I beleive Intel has a good chunk of the market. So Asus would make more boards for them.

[EpicczDiddy]

I know what you mean, when I was/am shopping for an AMD board and they have more options, when you look at it from say Asus' point of view, why would they make boards for a less popular platform? I don't know specific numbers, but I beleive Intel has a good chunk of the market. So Asus would make more boards for them.

 

I dont understand how circuit boards work, but wouldnt it be easy to just change the socket on a board and make it an AM3+ board ?

[Jvagle875]

I'll be honest I was suprised to see an AMD sticker on my grandma's laptop.

Amd has a really good position in lower-end laptops. Go look at nearly all the 400-500 dollar laptops at say.. Best Buy, a lot of them will have AMD apus in them.

[That Norwegian Guy]

Their best APU can play BF4 at 30 fps on medium. 2 generation old graphics cards cant do that. That is crazy.

 

My GTX 470 is three generations old and wants to have a word with you...  :rolleyes:

 

In fact I'd wager I'd be fine on high (obviously custom, who uses presets anyway except for Mac and laptop users)