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This is what I have...

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883102102

 

Quick Info

Processor

AMD FX-4350 4.2 GHz
Processor Main Features
64 bit Quad-Core Processor
Cache Per Processor
8 MB L3 Cache
Memory
4 GB DDR3
Storage
1 TB
Graphics
NVIDIA Geforce GT 730 2 GB
Power Supply
400W
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-Bit

CPU

CPU Type
FX-4000 Series
CPU Speed
FX-4350 (4.20 GHz)
L3 Cache Per CPU
8 MB
CPU Main Features
64 bit Quad-Core Processor

Graphics

GPU/VGA Type
NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 2 GB

Memory

Memory Capacity
20 GB DDR3

Storage

HDD
1 TB

Display

Screen Size
No Screen

Back Panel Ports

PS/2
1
Rear USB
2 x USB 3.0, 4 x USB 2.0
RJ45
1 port
Rear Audio Ports
3 x audio jacks (Line In/Line Out/Microphone)
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4 minutes ago, Wolverine2099 said:

This is what I have...

Quick Info

Processor

AMD FX-4350 4.2 GHz
Processor Main Features
64 bit Quad-Core Processor
Cache Per Processor
8 MB L3 Cache
Memory
4 GB DDR3
Storage
1 TB
Graphics
NVIDIA Geforce GT 730 2 GB
Power Supply
400W
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-Bit

CPU

CPU Type
FX-4000 Series
CPU Speed
FX-4350 (4.20 GHz)
L3 Cache Per CPU
8 MB
CPU Main Features
64 bit Quad-Core Processor

Graphics

GPU/VGA Type
NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 2 GB

Memory

Memory Capacity
20 GB DDR3

Storage

HDD
1 TB

Display

Screen Size
No Screen

Back Panel Ports

PS/2
1
Rear USB
2 x USB 3.0, 4 x USB 2.0
RJ45
1 port
Rear Audio Ports
3 x audio jacks (Line In/Line Out/Microphone)

You need a new everything....

 

 

CPU: Intel i7 6700K 4.5 ghz / CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 / Board: Asus Z170-A / GPU: Asus Rog Strix GTX 1070 8GB / RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 3000 mhz / SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 500 GB / PSU: Corsair RMx 850w / Case: Fractal Design Define S / Keyboard: Corsair MX Silent / Mouse: Logitech G403 / Monitor: Dell 27" TN 1ms 1440p/144hz Gsync

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A budget would be useful. Regardless, you should upgrade the CPU and GPU if you intend on gaming. You'll be able to get away with just a better GPU to be honest. an R9 380 is a great card for around the 100$ mark. I'd throw in a cheap 20$ 120GB SATA SSD for Windows 10 as well. Ideally, you'd build a new system, but I don't know your financial situation. Hope this helps, dude

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you can upgrade it, you don't need a new of everything:

1- you need to remove your old 4 GB RAM then add 2 x 8 GB DDR3 1866 memory kit, you have to plug (((only 2 or 4))) sticks of RAM.

if you have 4 DIMM slots in your motherboard then you probably has 2 set of colors so plug the 2 sticks to the same color

if you plug 3 sticks of RAM from different model number you will lose dual channel performance and may have some memory management issues which appears sometimes as blue screen to death so if you already bought 2 x 8 and pluged them beside your old 4 GB then consider removing your old stick for better performance and stability

 

2- you need a decent gaming monitor, I can't advise you which one since it totally depends on your personal preference, but I can only recommend FreeSync whatever your perference was, for me I prefer lower resolution and higher refresh rate so I got 144 Hz monitor from MSI (MAG241CR), it is curved 1080p FreeSync monitor

 

things you have to look for when buying gaming monitor:

1- refresh rate (not higher than 144Hz because it won't make you better gamer)

2- input lag (not higher than 8 ms and 4 ms is recommended)

3- response time (not higher than 5 ms)

5- resolution of course

4- sRGB coverage (100% or above)

5- monitor size of course (24" or higher)

6- not a PWM monitor (it may cause headaches)

7- 3D (for more fun if you care, but you will need a special glasses from nvidia that cost arround 150$)

8- FreeSync (G-sync is just paying 150$ more with no benefits so far!!)

9- type of panel (TN monitor, VA or IPS)
 

TN monitors are pretty old with washed poor colors, poor contrast and color accuracy, but it has the lowest response time and input lag 

 

IPS has a high input lag, IPS glow issue and high response time, but it has the best viewing angles and color accuracy so it is abvious that it is not for gaming, but for video editors, designers and as a TV.

VA monitors has high response time that has been lowered to 5 ms last year and with new 1 ms mprt technology it turned to be the best gaming monitor you can get.

VA monitors has more vibrant colors and higher contrast than IPS  ones but IPS color accuracy are better.

I think 1 ms mprt VA monitors are the best in the market for gaming these days and there are cheap prices of them too.

I can also recommend ASUS, MSI and SAMSUNG (Those are the best)  but LG, Viewsonic and Benq are also good brands

 

there are hundreds of monitor models out there, make sure to get something new by 2018

 

the problem is monitors manufacturers does not provide all these information above in specs so you have to look for reviews by yourself.

 

3- you need a new GPU, I think you should buy the RX 570, I got a deal for ya for 130 bucks

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16814202283

don't go higher because it does not worth it and your CPU won't handle better GPU, don't also go lower because it won't worth upgrading

don't go for nvidia since you don't want to miss AMD FreeSync optimization.

 

4- don't forget to check your current power supply cover on the side, look for 12V and see if there is 2 of them or only one, gather the amps under of them and multiply it with 12, if the result was something near 350W or above then you don't need better power supply and you can buy RX 570 but if it is lower then you may need another one, you can check that after installing the GPU.

symptomps are PC restrating, shutting down or freezing, nothing else, so if you got something like that then change your PSU.

 

5- any SATA 120 GB SSD will do a great job for your system, but to make sure that your SSD will last long enough before it wear out, you gotta check the manufacturer specs (any 3D NAND TLC or QLC can last long enough, just make sure it is 3D NAND flash)

once you done your PC will be for 2019 gaming ?

 

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On 4/20/2019 at 11:25 PM, Mudgie0205 said:

A budget would be useful. Regardless, you should upgrade the CPU and GPU if you intend on gaming. You'll be able to get away with just a better GPU to be honest. an R9 380 is a great card for around the 100$ mark. I'd throw in a cheap 20$ 120GB SATA SSD for Windows 10 as well. Ideally, you'd build a new system, but I don't know your financial situation. Hope this helps, dude

his PSU may not handle the R9 since it is not a power efficient GPU and it takes about 200 watts nearly so he will have to pay extra money for another Power supply, add to that bottlenecking will be serious because the CPU won't handle it which will cause stutters so he has to cap frames in order to play games without issues

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On 4/25/2019 at 7:14 AM, Islam Ghunym said:

his PSU may not handle the R9 since it is not a power efficient GPU and it takes about 200 watts nearly so he will have to pay extra money for another Power supply, add to that it is an old GPU and it can barely deliver 50 FPS gaming, so it does not worth getting at all.

Yes, my mistake - ideally a 500W+ PSU would be good too. It can easily deliver over 50FPS though, assuming you tweak graphics. It's best to just get a 570 now tbh since it only costs roughly 130$ for the 4GB variant.

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My Brother-in law gave me this
Any good?
AMD Radeon R9 380
AMD Radeon R9 380
377 reviews
The XFX Radeon R9 380 GPU was made to play demanding games at maximum details. Get incredible quality thanks to VSR advancements in GCN architecture.
Release Date
June 2015
Manufacturer
GIGABYTE
Chipset
ASUS
Video memory
4 GB
Video memory type
GDDR5
Output
VGA, HDMI, DVI, DisplayPort
Interface
PCI Express
General
Device Type
Graphics card
Bus Type
PCI Express 3.0 x16
Graphics Engine
AMD Radeon R9 380
Core Clock
970 MHz
Process Technology
28 nm
Max Resolution
4096 x 2160
Max Monitors Supported
4
API Supported
OpenGL 4.4, DirectX 12
Features
Ultra Durable VGA, GIGABYTE WindForce 2x, OC Guru II
Memory
Size
4 GB
Effective Clock Speed
5.7 GHz
Bus Width
256-bit
Miscellaneous
Software Included
OC Guru ll
Width
1.7 in
Height
5.6 in
System Requirements
Required Power Supply
500 W
Additional Requirements
8 pin PCI Express power connector
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On 6/2/2019 at 1:34 AM, Wolverine2099 said:
My Brother-in law gave me this
Any good?
AMD Radeon R9 380
AMD Radeon R9 380
377 reviews
The XFX Radeon R9 380 GPU was made to play demanding games at maximum details. Get incredible quality thanks to VSR advancements in GCN architecture.
Release Date
June 2015
Manufacturer
GIGABYTE
Chipset
ASUS
Video memory
4 GB
Video memory type
GDDR5
Output
VGA, HDMI, DVI, DisplayPort
Interface
PCI Express
General
Device Type
Graphics card
Bus Type
PCI Express 3.0 x16
Graphics Engine
AMD Radeon R9 380
Core Clock
970 MHz
Process Technology
28 nm
Max Resolution
4096 x 2160
Max Monitors Supported
4
API Supported
OpenGL 4.4, DirectX 12
Features
Ultra Durable VGA, GIGABYTE WindForce 2x, OC Guru II
Memory
Size
4 GB
Effective Clock Speed
5.7 GHz
Bus Width
256-bit
Miscellaneous
Software Included
OC Guru ll
Width
1.7 in
Height
5.6 in
System Requirements
Required Power Supply
500 W
Additional Requirements
8 pin PCI Express power connector

If you got that for free then for sure yeah it is very good, but if you paid more than 90$ for it then it is not good, however you may need better power supply, try it and see if it works without issues, you may also has to cap frames because your CPU will bottleneck it causing untolerable stutters.

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On 6/1/2019 at 11:34 PM, Wolverine2099 said:
My Brother-in law gave me this
Any good?
AMD Radeon R9 380
AMD Radeon R9 380
377 reviews
The XFX Radeon R9 380 GPU was made to play demanding games at maximum details. Get incredible quality thanks to VSR advancements in GCN architecture.
Release Date
June 2015
Manufacturer
GIGABYTE
Chipset
ASUS
Video memory
4 GB
Video memory type
GDDR5
Output
VGA, HDMI, DVI, DisplayPort
Interface
PCI Express
General
Device Type
Graphics card
Bus Type
PCI Express 3.0 x16
Graphics Engine
AMD Radeon R9 380
Core Clock
970 MHz
Process Technology
28 nm
Max Resolution
4096 x 2160
Max Monitors Supported
4
API Supported
OpenGL 4.4, DirectX 12
Features
Ultra Durable VGA, GIGABYTE WindForce 2x, OC Guru II
Memory
Size
4 GB
Effective Clock Speed
5.7 GHz
Bus Width
256-bit
Miscellaneous
Software Included
OC Guru ll
Width
1.7 in
Height
5.6 in
System Requirements
Required Power Supply
500 W
Additional Requirements
8 pin PCI Express power connector

Agree, it's a good GPU for that price point and even better since it was just given for free - 35$ 500W PSU will good enough (something from EVGA, like their 600W White)

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On 4/22/2019 at 5:05 AM, Wolverine2099 said:

I live in Atlanta Georgia, Not a hard core gamer, I already upgraded the RAM for Factory 4GB to 20GB

Just looking for faster and more Productivity

Whats your budget for the upgrade?

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CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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7 hours ago, Wolverine2099 said:

Just Got 

EVGA 500 W1, 80+ WHITE 500W, 3 Year Warranty, Power Supply 100-W1-0500-KR, Black

Any Good and Cheap CPUs?

Oh god, that's actually not a good PSU at all. Return it and get a corsair CX instead.

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On 6/14/2019 at 7:55 AM, Mudgie0205 said:

Agree, it's a good GPU for that price point and even better since it was just given for free - 35$ 500W PSU will good enough (something from EVGA, like their 600W White)

Don't talk if you don't know what you're talking about, most of EVGA's lower-end power supplies aren't good.

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I would say let's reset this post. 

There is a lot of strange advice flying everywhere...

What is the budget for the upgrade?

  • We can't give good info if we don't know what you want to spend on an upgrade. 

 

On 4/21/2019 at 5:35 PM, Wolverine2099 said:

Not a hard core gamer

  • Do you game at all?
  • What do you play?
  • What kind of monitor do you have?
  • What would you like to play that you haven't?
On 4/21/2019 at 5:35 PM, Wolverine2099 said:

Just looking for faster and more Productivity

  • What kind of productivity?
  • What do you do with the computer?
  • What software do you use?
On 6/1/2019 at 4:34 PM, Wolverine2099 said:
My Brother-in law gave me this
Any good?
AMD Radeon R9 380
AMD Radeon R9 380

Yes! It's a solid (older) GPU for med/high settings 1080p gaming.

It's a large step up from the GTX 730 that you have.

  • Did you pay for it?
  • What did you pay him?

 

Generally speaking if you want an upgrade, your best path will be to move away from the Athlon CPU and into a more modern setup. This will require a new MOBO, and new DDR4 RAM. Since you aren't a hardcore gamer, the R9 380 is a solid graphics card, and a fine place to stay for now. 

 

Power supply sales are currently not great through the typical online retailers. Prices are pretty high for almost all units, so if you're in the market, it may be a good time to look at the deals on a midrange 80 Plus Gold unit, since they are only $10-15 more than a reasonable bronze. If you're looking to upgrade in the current market, I would look at something like these:

Bronze: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ648d/corsair-power-supply-cp9020101na

Bronze: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VGc48d/cooler-master-masterwatt-650w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-mpx-6501-amaab-us

Gold: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZMLypg/corsair-power-supply-rm550

Gold: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J7F48d/cooler-master-mwe-gold-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpy-6501-afaag-us

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  • Do you game at all?
  • Yes
  • What do you play?
  • Steam Games
  • What kind of monitor do you have?
  • 3 Kinds
  • -LG Flatron E2041 (RGB)
  • -A VIZIO 32 inch TV (HDMI)
  • and a VIZIO 27 inch TV (HDMI)
  • What would you like to play that you haven't?
  • Not Really Sure
  • What kind of productivity?
  • Faster
  • What do you do with the computer?
  • Surf The Web, Pay Bills, & Game
  • What software do you use?
  • Some Video Editing Software
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9 minutes ago, Wolverine2099 said:

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Upgrade to something like this...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($109.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $214.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-23 23:36 EDT-0400

SSD TIER LIST

 

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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On 6/23/2019 at 11:26 PM, Wolverine2099 said:
  • What do you play?
  • Steam Games

That doesn't help at all. You could be playing some visual novel with MS paint graphics like Umineko that would run fine on windows xp machine from 15 years ago or you could be playing Assassin's Creed 3. We need specific titles to help pick out what's best for you.

 

On 6/23/2019 at 11:26 PM, Wolverine2099 said:
  • What kind of productivity?
  • Faster

Again not helpful. Do you do photoshop? Do you stream? Do you do video editing? Are you an artist? 

 

On 6/23/2019 at 11:26 PM, Wolverine2099 said:
  • What software do you use?
  • Some Video Editing Software

If you want help you need to be more specific.

 

Also budget? If you don't list your budget we could end up recommending something you wouldn't feel comfortable spending.

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Isn't this this post quiet old, you did not upgrade yet, I remember that you wanted advice to upgrade without changing your mobo and you said that you were in a tight budget and you don't have monitors now I see that you saved money wanting a full upgrade

I see many of these info has been changed so instead I suggest you create another new thread and specify exactly what you want so you won't waste your time and our time too.

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On 6/24/2019 at 5:26 AM, Wolverine2099 said:
  • Do you game at all?
  • Yes
  • What do you play?
  • Steam Games 
  • What kind of monitor do you have?
  • 3 Kinds
  • -LG Flatron E2041 (RGB)
  • -A VIZIO 32 inch TV (HDMI)
  • and a VIZIO 27 inch TV (HDMI)
  • What would you like to play that you haven't?
  • Not Really Sure
  • What kind of productivity?
  • Faster 
  • What do you do with the computer?
  • Surf The Web, Pay Bills, & Game
  • What software do you use?
  • Some Video Editing Software

Alright, we can't help you if you aren't specific.  If you needed to go to a hotel in a city and were taking a cab you wouldn't tell the cabbie, when asked where you needed to go, "the hotel", but that's what you are doing to us.  

 

There are games on Steam that will play on a computer that costs $300 like one based on an AMD Ryzen 3 2200G and there are games that need modern components.  So saying "steam games" is as helpful as not responding at all.

 

Please stop being vague, if you want people to help you the least you can do is put together a list of software you use and what your computer can't do well.  If you can't be bothered then we shouldn't be trying to help you.    

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6 minutes ago, Wolverine2099 said:

Sorry, I Play many Games, I just do not a PC together For One Game, I have Newer games and some older games 

What games? Name the names.

 

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On 7/11/2019 at 3:30 AM, Wolverine2099 said:

Sorry, I Play many Games, I just do not a PC together For One Game, I have Newer games and some older games

It's all good, we are just trying to help.  Please actually list the games you play.  The more difficult the game is to run the better. 

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