Upgrading current rig for gaming / streaming!

[Recker]

Hey everyone!

My current rig is

4790k

z97x gaming 5

16gb dd3 hyperx fury ram

evga 1080

 

I will be using the 1080 in the new rig as its doing just fine for 1080p 144hz but will probably upgrade that down the line! Plus i'll be using the h100i v2 for the CPU cooler aswell.

So the new parts i'm considering upgrading too are

 

i9 9900k or the i9 9700k still not sure on which too get! or should i wait for the new ryzen 3000 series?

Asus - Prime Z370-A i'm not sure if this is one of the mobo's that need the bios update or not

G.Skill - Trident Z 3200mhz DDR4 ram.

 

I've been saving up for a little while now and i've finally got the money to upgrade

I also know that only upgrading those parts i won't see a fps change as im not upgrading the GPU aswell.

 

Thoughts on what i should do? have money burning a hole in my pocket! lol

 

I've been told to get the ryzen 2700x but my intel fanboy won't allow it! haha

[Eastman51]

5 minutes ago, Recker said:

i9 9900k or the i9 9700k still not sure on which too get! or should i wait for the new ryzen 3000 series?

Asus - Prime Z370-A i'm not sure if this is one of the mobo's that need the bios update or not

 

I've been told to get the ryzen 2700x but my intel fanboy won't allow it! haha

9900k is better since it has more threads, but the 2700x will be similar-ish in streaming because of fast af multi-thread (but it will be a little slower in games).

the Prime boards aren't meant for gaming. Get a TUF, Strix, or ROG if you're going Asus; Z370 or Z390 are the chipsets you should def be looking at though.

 

I would try to hold off till Zen 2 and see what cores/threads, clocks, and most importantly pricing looks like.

[Recker]

What do you mean the prime isn't meant for gaming?

[Eastman51]

19 minutes ago, Recker said:

What do you mean the prime isn't meant for gaming?

The Prime boards are designed for professional/business use. They typically have weaker VRMs and they often times don't have VRM heatsinks. Asus' other models usually have "gaming" in the name, which implies that they are better designed with gaming and overclocking in mind; in short, they have better VRMs that also have some type of cooling for the VRMs, which is ideal for when you put a heavy load on the CPU (gaming, streaming, etc).

 

Edit:
To be clear, I'm not saying you can't use that board. But it definitely wouldn't be my first choice, since the Strix and ROG boards have much better VRMs. If you want to OC, I would definitely reconsider your choice. If you aren't going to overclock, the Prime Z370-A isn't the worst choice you could make. Unlike a lot of Prime boards, that one actually has VRM cooling (though its fairly weak); but again, the Prime boards have VRMs that lean on the weaker side, so they aren't good for overclocking or high performance systems. The Prime "z" chipset boards are designed for high-end workstations based on Intel's mainstream platform, unlike the Strix and ROG boards that are designed with overclocking and enthusiasts in mind. Workstations, unlike gaming systems (even though they can share the same parts) don't put intense loads on the components (hence why the VRMs can be weaker). Usually, the most intensive load a workstation will perform is video export/rendering. Whereas games can utilize the CPU a lot more (running AI, calculating things), and the CPU load only increases when you start streaming and/or recording that gameplay. 

[LienusLateTips]

8 hours ago, Eastman51 said:

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A lot of PRIME boards have nice VRMs. Example, X470 PRIME, and many others...

[jerubedo]

10 hours ago, Recker said:

i9 9900k or the i9 9700k still not sure on which too get! or should i wait for the new ryzen 3000 series? 

You should DEFINITELY wait for Ryzen 3000. If it takes the gaming crown, I'd get a Ryzen. If they don't you'll at least get price cuts on existing parts OR an even better response from Intel that's worth buying. Either way if you can wait it's best.

 

If you CAN'T, DEFINITELY the 9700K. The 9900K will offer almost no performance gains in most games. Even the 9700K is overkill, but if those are the only two options, 9700K all the way.

[BigRom]

4 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

an even better response from Intel that's worth buying

Can't wait for Intel to confuse everyone even further with more 'refreshes' and additions to their already silly product lineup 

 

Jokes aside though, jerubedo is right, OP if you don't need the PC exactly now and can wait for the announcement from AMD it might be to you and all consumer's advantage as who knows what they might trigger on the CPU market.

[jerubedo]

10 hours ago, Recker said:

money burning a hole in my pocket!

Money definitely should not do that. I would check your pockets for anything combustible and carefully dispose of it. Buy new pants with new pockets. Consult a doctor if the burn breeched your skin. If the money really was the culprit, contact.... um.... I dunno who you'd contact. An accountant?

[Herman Mcpootis]

11 hours ago, Eastman51 said:

 

the Prime boards aren't meant for gaming. Get a TUF, Strix, or ROG if you're going Asus; Z370 or Z390 are the chipsets you should def be looking at though.

The current TUF boards are actually pretty crappy, while most of the other asus boards are overpriced. A gigabyte aorus board is one of the better Z390 boards.