dyu think are 1070 prices are gonna tank

[MicroDotz]

i feel like its popular choice so lots of ppls must have em no?

isnt something else gonna come along with better price and everyone going to sell these (or even minin stuf caving in being a factor for 1070 ? ) 

if you would, wat would you pay for used one? 

[Slottr]

1660ti's came out, they're on par with a 1070 for 270$

Used 1070's go for ~200-230

 

Or a Vega 56 is a good alternative

[dizmo]

Everything drops in value over time, as new things replace them. That's just how it works.

By the time people are selling them super cheap, it probably won't really be worth buying unless you're on a super strict budget.

[Snipergod87]

Not really tbh, they will just go out of stock and be replaced by the newer cards.

[Jurrunio]

If 1070's value does tank when new cards come, it has already tanked since the Turing equivalent is already out

[MicroDotz]

38 minutes ago, Slottr said:

1660ti's came out, they're on par with a 1070 for 270$

Used 1070's go for ~200-230

 

Or a Vega 56 is a good alternative

im not seeing many used 1660tis or vegas at used prices yet though,

wonder if amd would come out with some mroe stufs at thet performance range 

[MicroDotz]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

If 1070's value does tank when new cards come, it has already tanked since the Turing equivalent is already out

do yu think itll evr be a 150cad card due to how many ppls have them, i feel like the gpu companies prob know how to make a proper low cost chip to gets min 60fps in resolutions up to 4k but are like holding out as long as possible as they pretend its impossible due to trying to make smaller and smaller photolithography( or greater efficiency) on us as excuse to procrastinate that reality of making most new gpus irrelevant  edit: lemme formally retrac t my comment i kno nothing lol really XD

[MicroDotz]

29 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Everything drops in value over time, as new things replace them. That's just how it works.

By the time people are selling them super cheap, it probably won't really be worth buying unless you're on a super strict budget.

to what end, i wonder

[Jurrunio]

18 minutes ago, MicroDotz said:

i feel like the gpu companies prob know how to make a proper low cost chip to gets min 60fps in resolutions up to 4k

then you're wrong, very wrong. Faster GPUs of the same tech uses more compute units. hence bigger die and more likely for flaws to pop up in the die. It's not "they can't make it bigger", but "a lot of material goes in, few products come out", drawing up price. The silicon wafers which act as basis for GPU, CPU and many others cost quite a lot too, they might be made of sand but that's like saying diamond is worthless because it's just carbon.

 

27 minutes ago, MicroDotz said:

do yu think itll evr be a 150cad card due to how many ppls have them,

a year later maybe? When AMD's next gen Navi comes out then it might drop that far down.

[MicroDotz]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

then you're wrong, very wrong. Faster GPUs of the same tech uses more compute units. hence bigger die and more likely for flaws to pop up in the die. It's not "they can't make it bigger", but "a lot of material goes in, few products come out", drawing up price. The silicon wafers which act as basis for GPU, CPU and many others cost quite a lot too, they might be made of sand but that's like saying diamond is worthless because it's just carbon.

 

a year later maybe? When AMD's next gen Navi comes out then it might drop that far down.

ahh not saying tht exactly but im not claiming to be an expert either so i feel you, i mean if they stuck to a certain size for longer periods (which eventually they may) my theory is that the technology put into it would advance- but as they reduce size they are rechallenging themselves constantly for minimal gains and maximal profits ; i get silicon quality is issue with large pieces but im talking about the design that goes onto them in the first place, if there constantly making changes maybe its not efficient yet lol im no engineer but like for end user seems like price is an issue ,

im not saying it should be made bigger though just not that it needs to be that smaller before the technology is worked out economically... or is going smaller the only way to lower end users prices but in the future? 

[dDave64]

As long as they continue to sell well the price won’t drop. That’s economics for you.

 

I think the GTX 1660 Ti has sort of replaced it though. It’s on par for performance with less of a price tag for a new unit.

 

Some items stay expensive until they’re gone. Look at Skylake CPUs for example. Just because something is old doesn’t mean the price will tank. In some cases it may actually equate to a price increase (I’m remembering when DDR3 came about and DDR2 became more expensive)

[MicroDotz]

12 minutes ago, dDave64 said:

As long as they continue to sell well the price won’t drop. That’s economics for you.

 

I think the GTX 1660 Ti has sort of replaced it though. It’s on par for performance with less of a price tag for a new unit.

 

Some items stay expensive until they’re gone. Look at Skylake CPUs for example. Just because something is old doesn’t mean the price will tank. In some cases it may actually equate to a price increase (I’m remembering when DDR3 came about and DDR2 became more expensive)

dyu kno wat the 1660ti is like at 2160p in comparison to the 1070? 

if i can practice my speculation here; maybe the 1070 prices will only drop to 1660 prices and nevr below then 

i wish i could sign up for a program where people would give away their gpus to me lol i have an ocarina of time too  , so i could go back in time with the nifty gpus and grow up with them or something :B wow ijust got sidetracked 

[Jurrunio]

56 minutes ago, MicroDotz said:

ahh not saying tht exactly but im not claiming to be an expert either so i feel you, i mean if they stuck to a certain size for longer periods (which eventually they may) my theory is that the technology put into it would advance- but as they reduce size they are rechallenging themselves constantly for minimal gains and maximal profits ; i get silicon quality is issue with large pieces but im talking about the design that goes onto them in the first place, if there constantly making changes maybe its not efficient yet lol im no engineer but like for end user seems like price is an issue ,

im not saying it should be made bigger though just not that it needs to be that smaller before the technology is worked out economically... or is going smaller the only way to lower end users prices but in the future? 

possible that they are building tech reserves (or for military / government use), but they are certainly not aiming to make things cheaper. That's not how economy works.