Choosing the right GPU

[Nait]

PC Config (Future build) : 

CPU - I7-9700K 

COOLER - NH-D14 

MOBO - Aorus Pro z390

RAM - DDR4 G.SKILL TRIDENT Z 3200Mhz 16gGb

 

I have a 1080p 60Hz (Maybe upgrading to a 144Hz 1440p monitor in the future, maybe with an ultrawide monitor) , should i buy an RTX 2060 or something from the 10 series? As you can see i'm building a pc that can last for 4 or more years with no problem. Currently i have :

 

CPU -  i7-3770k (OC at 4.2 GHz)

COOLER - NHD14

MOBO - ASUS TUF SabertoothZ77

RAM - DDR3 Corsair DOMINATOR  2333Mhz  8Gb

GPU - Asus GTX 770 Directcu II 2Gb

 

 

[ELSknutson]

well its tipically best to buy the newest and best card you can but if you can find a good 1070ti/1080 for the same price as an 2060 I would take that.

[NineEyeRon]

Save up your cash and buy the 1440p rig as one purchase. 

 

If the only thing you are waiting for is the monitor then just save up that or reduce cost in your current rig to make room.

 

Ideally you want to go right to 1440p OR plan a rig for 2-3 years at 1080p. Otherwise your just throwing away money.

 

[Constantin]

The ideal match to your future build is the RTX 2070

[Nait]

2 minutes ago, NineEyeRon said:

Save up your cash and buy the 1440p rig as one purchase. 

 

If the only thing you are waiting for is the monitor then just save up that or reduce cost in your current rig to make room.

 

Ideally you want to go right to 1440p OR plan a rig for 2-3 years at 1080p. Otherwise your just throwing away money.

 

The monitor is just a plus in the future, my plan was to buy the rig this year , and then maybe , next years or 2, buy the 144p monitor. 

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, Constantin said:

The ideal match to your future build is the RTX 2070

Not really, the RTX 2070 is the worse Turing card of all, it's 9% faster than a RTX 2060 but costs 50% more, there are games where the RTX 2060 will perform the same as the RTX 2070 even.

 

Considering pricing, the RTX 2060, Vega56 and Vega 64, GTX 1070 Ti, GTX 1080, all are better value than the RTX 2070 for similar to on pair performance.

 

If second hand is a thing I'd stretch to a GTX 1080 Ti, there are many second hand deals that are selling for almost the RTX 2070 pricing, for a card that has FreeSync and full driver support still and performs as high as 35% faster it's a no brainer.

[Nait]

12 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Not really, the RTX 2070 is the worse Turing card of all, it's 9% faster than a RTX 2060 but costs 50% more, there are games where the RTX 2060 will perform the same as the RTX 2070 even.

 

Considering pricing, the RTX 2060, Vega56 and Vega 64, GTX 1070 Ti, GTX 1080, all are better value than the RTX 2070 for similar to on pair performance.

 

If second hand is a thing I'd stretch to a GTX 1080 Ti, there are many second hand deals that are selling for almost the RTX 2070 pricing, for a card that has FreeSync and full driver support still and performs as high as 35% faster it's a no brainer.

Unfortunately , it's really difficult in my country to find the 1080ti, used or brand new ( many, many other cards really) and the ones the are still available costs around 700 Euro , and that's ridiculous. The "best" deal i could find is an Asus Strix RTX 2060 (Not the OC Version, that one costs 10 Euros more, maybe i should buy that) at 430 Euro.

[MeatFeastMan]

4 minutes ago, Nait said:

Unfortunately , it's really difficult in my country to find the 1080ti, used or brand new ( many, many other cards really) and the ones the are still available costs around 700 Euro , and that's ridiculous. The "best" deal i could find is an Asus Strix RTX 2060 (Not the OC Version, that one costs 10 Euros more, maybe i should buy that) at 430 Euro.

You can't find a well-priced vega 56 or 64? In Europe the prices for vega are really strong at the moment so I'd be surprised if you couldn't find one for a decent price. For example, I can find a vega 64 strix right here for under 400 in France:

 

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/7nYWGX/asus-radeon-rx-vega-64-8gb-rog-strix-video-card-rog-strix-rxvega64-o8g-gaming

 

and Sapphire Nitro+ for a little more: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/MssmP6/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-64-8gb-nitro-video-card-11275-03-40g

 

There's also a pulse vega 56 for 330: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/cKhKHx/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-56-2gb-pulse-video-card-11276-02-40g

 

Go on the site and change the region at the top to the part of Europe you're in. Should be able to find some good deals on vega cards.

[Princess Luna]

9 minutes ago, Nait said:

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Sounds good enough to me, you might want to pick up an i7 8700K if you'll just game by the way... since it won't matter alongside the RTX 2060.

 

Cheers!

[Nait]

14 minutes ago, MeatFeastMan said:

You can't find a well-priced vega 56 or 64? In Europe the prices for vega are really strong at the moment so I'd be surprised if you couldn't find one for a decent price. For example, I can find a vega 64 strix right here for under 400 in France:

 

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/7nYWGX/asus-radeon-rx-vega-64-8gb-rog-strix-video-card-rog-strix-rxvega64-o8g-gaming

 

and Sapphire Nitro+ for a little more: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/MssmP6/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-64-8gb-nitro-video-card-11275-03-40g

 

There's also a pulse vega 56 for 330: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/cKhKHx/sapphire-radeon-rx-vega-56-2gb-pulse-video-card-11276-02-40g

 

Go on the site and change the region at the top to the part of Europe you're in. Should be able to find some good deals on vega cards.

Having multiple bad experience with AMD cards made me just buy Nvidia for every pc i built. I know, it's stupid but i never had problem with Nvidia, but it made me reluctant to buy everyrhing from AMD. I'm really sorry for that and again i know it's really a stupid thing to say. BTW the best deal is still the RTX2060 whit an AMD Sapphire RX Vega 64 8GB at 470 Euros + Shipping cost and an AMD MSI RX Vega 56 AirBoost 8Gb at 500 + shipping. And again those are the best deal i could find

[Constantin]

2 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Not really, the RTX 2070 is the worse Turing card of all, it's 9% faster than a RTX 2060 but costs 50% more, there are games where the RTX 2060 will perform the same as the RTX 2070 even.

Quite inaccurate, but never mind...

[NineEyeRon]

I’m looking at a used 1080 to go with a new monitor, when I can afford both together.

 

i got 1080p 144hz monitor and an RX580 4GB over a year ago. They have proved a very good pairing.

[Yo Whats Up]

https://www.ebay.de/itm/113701553214

 

Cards are barely used, have a 1 year warranty and a 1 month return policy, seller is very big and trustworthy, 52k rating, as you can see there's already 205 sold (there is actually more but the last listing ended and the store put another one)

 

Use a third party courier company that will ship from germany to your country in Europe, I bought that card and the shipping was €2 from germany to me, the way it works is the ebay store seller ships to the postal address in germany that your courier has given you, then they ship from their address to an office in my country, they have a truck with a schedule once a week that travels from germany to my country for about a week, they charge about €1.50 per kg, so the courier charged me about €2.50 to ship from germany to my country (the ebay seller ships for free) cuz the package weighted ~1.55kg and then another €3 to ship from their central postal office in another town in my country to my address, to recap, the ebay seller ships to courier #1's address in germany, then that courier gets the package to my country with a truck with many other people's packages, then courier #2 who specializes in shipping in my country ships from courier #1's central office to my address in my town. Pretty simple and convenient, right?

 

Spoiler

 

[Zberg]

6 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Not really, the RTX 2070 is the worse Turing card of all, it's 9% faster than a RTX 2060 but costs 50% more, there are games where the RTX 2060 will perform the same as the RTX 2070 even.

 

Considering pricing, the RTX 2060, Vega56 and Vega 64, GTX 1070 Ti, GTX 1080, all are better value than the RTX 2070 for similar to on pair performance.

 

If second hand is a thing I'd stretch to a GTX 1080 Ti, there are many second hand deals that are selling for almost the RTX 2070 pricing, for a card that has FreeSync and full driver support still and performs as high as 35% faster it's a no brainer.

The only issue is that GPU performance/dollar value isn't as important when your 144hz monitor is stuck at 60-80 fps (which is what happens with a 2060).  Add ray tracing in to games and forget it, it might be a good value, but its value as a part of your set-up is not good.  I agree the 2070 value sucks, which is why you need to go even further to make 1440p worth your while (to 2080 levels of performance).  Otherwise might as well get a 60 hz monitor.

 

You are spot on about the used market, 1080ti might be the sweet spot for 1440p/144hz for now, until the 2080's start to come down to a reasonable price. 

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, Zberg said:

price.

 

To better illustrate, the difference really is too narrow between the 2060 and 2070 considering it can get as high as 200 dollars more expensive.