Internet not being fully used

[tahmid133712]

I have an ethernet connection DSL that was advertised as 11mbps, internet speed test shows 11mbps which is fine but when I download torrents or MS store apps I literally can't do anything with the internet unless those downloads are paused. I only see a maximum of 1.4megabits on my downloads, that is qBittorrent,steam and microsoft store. I also can't use my phone when things are downloading on the PC and everyone in my house complains why the internet isn't loading. Is there any way to increase the bandwith of my PC? Or any way to fix this?

[Dioneyesos]

2 minutes ago, tahmid133712 said:

I have an ethernet connection DSL that was advertised as 11mbps, internet speed test shows 11mbps which is fine but when I download torrents or MS store apps I literally can't do anything with the internet unless those downloads are paused. I only see a maximum of 1.4megabits on my downloads, that is qBittorrent,steam and microsoft store. I also can't use my phone when things are downloading on the PC and everyone in my house complains why the internet isn't loading. Is there any way to increase the bandwith of my PC? Or any way to fix this?

Check in taks manager what the network usage is there. And if everyone is complaining about slow internet, a better solution would be to give your computer less bandwidth so everyone else has some to work with 

[Sychic]

Looks like that's in mebibytes which aren't actually megabytes. 1.3 Mebibytes is 11 megabits which is your rated internet speed. You're actually using your entire bandwidth.

 

Edit: here's a google link to a converter Link

[191x7]

You're not taking the calculation into account.

11 Mbps is 11 000 000 bits per second. Now let's divide it by 8 to get it in Bytes per second. 1.375.000. Now let's get KiB/s from that by dividing by 1024. 1342,77 KiB/s.

Now, to get MiB/s divide by 1024. That's right, 1,311 MiB/s.

Guess what, you're using your full speed you can get, and while doing so the surfing becomes impossible for the others on the network.

[Dioneyesos]

4 minutes ago, Sychic said:

Looks like that's in mebibytes which aren't actually megabytes. 1.3 Mebibytes is 11 megabits which is your rated internet speed. You're actually using your entire bandwidth.

 

Edit: here's a google link to a converter Link

I didn't even notice this. But yea if you want to increase the speed for the rest of your family, decrease the bandwidth to your computer so there is some bandwidth left for the rest

[tahmid133712]

19 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

You're not taking the calculation into account.

11 Mbps is 11 000 000 bits per second. Now let's divide it by 8 to get it in Bytes per second. 1.375.000. Now let's get KiB/s from that by dividing by 1024. 1342,77 KiB/s.

Now, to get MiB/s divide by 1024. That's right, 1,311 MiB/s.

Guess what, you're using your full speed you can get, and while doing so the surfing becomes impossible for the others on the network.

Holy crap and i thought my internet was being shitty. Thanks

[Arrexis]

ISP's often provide their speeds in "Megabits per second", since "10 Mbps" is a larger number than "1,25 MBps", and people don't notice the small B in Mbps.
So heres a small writeup to understand your internet speeds better.

Mbps = Megabit per second.
MBps = MegaByte per second.
Note the large B and Byte vs Bit.

1 Byte is 8 Bits, so the conversion from one to the other is pretty simple. Divide Mbps by 8 to get MBps, and mutiply MBps by 8 to get Mbps.

Megabyte is useful cause we often use Bytes to measure filesizes. So lets say youre downloading a 20 gigabyte file at 1.25 MegaByte per second;
20*1000 = 20,000 (turn gigabyte into megabyte)
20,000 / 1,25 = 16,000 (divide size by download speed, giving you seconds)
16,000 / 60 / 60 = 4,4 (divide seconds by 60 to give minutes and 60 again to give hours.)
so 20 gigs should take aprox 4-5 hours at 1.25 MBps
 

Also, you used MiB/s, which is Mebibyte per second, which is just the IEC name for megabyte.

 

Just as a last note. Theres decimal and binary multiples of Bytes, so a megabyte can either be 1000^2 Bytes in Decimal, or 1024^2 Bytes in Binary, but MiB is always used for the Binary value.

In a realistic case this is such a small difference that it's often overlooked.

[Dedayog]

58 minutes ago, tahmid133712 said:

I have an ethernet connection DSL that was advertised as 11mbps, internet speed test shows 11mbps which is fine but when I download torrents or MS store apps I literally can't do anything with the internet unless those downloads are paused. I only see a maximum of 1.4megabits on my downloads, that is qBittorrent,steam and microsoft store. I also can't use my phone when things are downloading on the PC and everyone in my house complains why the internet isn't loading. Is there any way to increase the bandwith of my PC? Or any way to fix this?

 If you're going to steal software, gotta know how the tools work

 

To answer you, get more internets.  You're saturating your current plan, bump up to 100Mbps or so.

 

[Arrexis]

4 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

 If you're going to steal software, gotta know how the tools work

 

To answer you, get more internets.  You're saturating your current plan, bump up to 100Mbps or so.

 

OP said he had DSL, i'm guessing 100 Mbps is not supplied by the ISP since the phonelines and modem would probably explode 

[Dedayog]

Just now, Arrexis said:

OP said he had DSL, i'm guessing 100 Mbps is not supplied by the ISP since the phonelines and modem would probably explode 

He may have broadband available too.  Upgrading plans isn't just with the same provider.  Fine, get 48Mbps DSL then.

 

 

[Lurick]

23 minutes ago, Arrexis said:

ISP's often provide their speeds in "Megabits per second", since "10 Mbps" is a larger number than "1,25 MBps", and people don't notice the small B in Mbps.

Advertising in Mbps is actually the correct way to do it. Sure the byproduct is that the number is "larger" but it's all based on the fact that information is transmitted in bits so advertising it as transmitted is correct. Web browsers and the like that show it in MB/s are showing it "correct" as well since they are showing how much information is being stored. It's confusing for a lot of people sure and I wish everyone would just show downloads/uploads/etc. in Mbps by default but it is what it is.

[Arrexis]

1 minute ago, Lurick said:

Advertising in Mbps is actually the correct way to do it. Sure the byproduct is that the number is "larger" but it's all based on the fact that information is transmitted in bits so advertising it as transmitted is correct. Web browsers and the like that show it in MB/s are showing it "correct" as well since they are showing how much information is being stored. It's confusing for a lot of people sure and I wish everyone would just show downloads/uploads/etc. in Mbps by default but it is what it is.

Fair point, I've just experienced disgruntled friends with 100 Mbps lines complaining about steam "downloading at 12 Mbps!". So I just default to "multiply it by 8".

 

12 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

He may have broadband available too.  Upgrading plans isn't just with the same provider.  Fine, get 48Mbps DSL then.

 

 

Also a fair point, I have the same type of DSL line, and very often, around 10/1 down/up is the maximum the DSL provider can deliver, and just as often the DSL provider is the only option. Personally my DSL provider is no longer maintaining copper lines as of May, but my street gets gigabit fiber come this fall. Might be a couple rocky months. 

[Alex Atkin UK]

2 hours ago, Mr. horse said:

This. ISP can be sneaky this way.

Not sneaky, its the difference between how you specify data transfer vs data storage.

[mtz_federico]

On most torrent apps you can limit the download speed 

[mynameisjuan]

4 hours ago, Mr. horse said:

Wile technically true, most ISP do not inform the customer of this difference. That is ware the sneaky part comes into play.

Its misleading to the average user. 

It's not our responsibility to. Just because OSes decided to use bytes the ISP is at fault?

[Dedayog]

5 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

8 minutes ago, mynameisjuan said:

It's not our responsibility to. Just because OSes decided to use bytes the ISP is at fault?

 

You're asking if the ISP is at fault for intentionally misleading the customer?  Do you want examples, links, court cases, judgements, customer testimonials, etc? 

 

[Lurick]

5 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

You're asking if the ISP is at fault for intentionally misleading the customer?  Do you want examples, links, court cases, judgements, customer testimonials, etc? 

 

How is advertising speed as how it's transmitted misleading? There might be other ways they mislead customers or not live up to those speeds but to say advertising the way data is transmitted is misleading is just wrong.

[Dedayog]

17 minutes ago, Lurick said:

How is advertising speed as how it's transmitted misleading? There might be other ways they mislead customers or not live up to those speeds but to say advertising the way data is transmitted is misleading is just wrong.

I didn't say THAT was misleading, I was alluding to other things they've done.

 

At worst they use the Mbps to look like they're provindig a real fast service to the uninformed.  We all do things like that, not a huge deal.

 

The decision to use Mbps vs MBps was obviously made and there is rationale behind it.  Is it misleading?  Naw.

[mynameisjuan]

38 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

didn't say THAT was misleading, I was alluding to other things they've done. 

Well my comment was that you said Mbps vs MBps is misleading.

 

IEEE uses mbps, it's literally a standard. Nothing misleading

[Alex Atkin UK]

If anything its the OS that is misleading by measuring everything in MiB yet for years claiming it was MB.

This caused the whole confusion over why HDDs are so much smaller formatted than their rated capacity.

We are suffering from a serious case of dumbing things down for the end user causing huge confusion.