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SSD Boot Drive + HDD Vs a Full SSD Rig

Redrooster

First off, I've never owned an SSD (I plan on getting one later this year). Secondly, what's the point of having an SSD boot drive? Does that only help with Windows startup speed? What's the advantages of having a system with just a large capacity SSD?

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8 minutes ago, Redrooster said:

First off, I've never owned an SSD (I plan on getting one later this year). Secondly, what's the point of having an SSD boot drive? Does that only help with Windows startup speed? What's the advantages of having a system with just a large capacity SSD?

You need to do some research about the past decade :)

 

SSD's will bring Windows to a sub-20 second bootup.  Mine is at 12s currently.  They make programs load in a fraction of the time, for example Excel is a 1/4 second vs 3s for me.  Browsers are the same.

 

Games load faster too, Ark takes 4-5 minutes vs 15 minutes.  Games affected may vary, but the more modded the more impact.  Most games only get a small increase in load times tho, it's very dependent.

 

I'd boot with an SSD, with your programs on it as well.  If you can afford SSD love all around, I recommend it.  If not, at least go with a boot SSD and games/data on a large HDD.

 

You won't really buy into it until you do it and use one.  Then you'll understand.

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The point of having an SSD as you boot drive is it can load up your core applications and windows much faster then it would with a normal Hard Drive.

 

For example, my old 2013 laptop now Boots Windows 10 fully in 7 seconds as opposed to 45 seconds that it took with a normal hard drive.

 

A Large SSD Is if you want ALL or your programs and games to boot up quicker where as a boot drive is only meant to help windows and a few core applications load faster.

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If you need 1-2TB of storage, All SSD is the best. For the avg person, I reccommend 1.5TB, 500GB NVMe + 2x 500GB SSD (total price is around 170$).

 

If you need more, I'd get a single 500GB nvme boot, and 250GB/Optane/extra RAM for use as a cache, and 2x 3-4-5-6TB HDD in raid.

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Just now, Firewrath9 said:

If you need 1-2TB of storage, All SSD is the best. For the avg person, I reccommend 1.5TB, 500GB NVMe + 2x 500GB SSD (total price is around 170$).

 

If you need more, I'd get a single 500GB nvme boot, and 250GB/Optane/extra RAM for use as a cache, and 2x 3-4-5-6TB HDD in raid.

Absolutely not.  No need for NVMe SSD's outside of specific use cases.  Where are you finding all that for $170 anyway?

 

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29 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Absolutely not.  No need for NVMe SSD's outside of specific use cases.  Where are you finding all that for $170 anyway?

 

All i see for 1TB around that price is 860 EVO for $148. 

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7 minutes ago, Redrooster said:

All i see for 1TB around that price is 860 EVO for $148. 

I see a 500GB NVMe around $130 lowest on Amazon, then Inlands 480GB SATA SSD's for $50 each, is $230.

 

Not sure how good Sabrent NVMe is... but the price is $150 and you can get 15% off cuz Linus.  So $127.50 for a 1TB NVMe is pretty good, but don't know the brand.  I'd probably go 860 EVO or WD Blue anyway, since NVMe isn't giving a benefit.

 

https://smile.amazon.com/Sabrent-Rocket-Internal-Performance-SB-ROCKET-1TB/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=sabrent+nvme&qid=1554233655&s=gateway&sr=8-1

 

 

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16 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Not sure how good Sabrent NVMe is... but the price is $150 and you can get 15% off cuz Linus.  So $127.50 for a 1TB NVMe is pretty good, but don't know the brand.  I'd probably go 860 EVO or WD Blue anyway, since NVMe isn't giving a benefit.

Yeah, for my workload (gaming, watching YouTube, and general use) a decent 860 evo is all i really need.

 

As of right now I'm only using about 410 gb of my HDD, but the more serious I get about PC gaming, the more i realize that I'm probably going to need at least 1TB

 

$148, woo hoo...

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49 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

I see a 500GB NVMe around $130 lowest on Amazon, then Inlands 480GB SATA SSD's for $50 each, is $230.

  

Not sure how good Sabrent NVMe is... but the price is $150 and you can get 15% off cuz Linus.  So $127.50 for a 1TB NVMe is pretty good, but don't know the brand.  I'd probably go 860 EVO or WD Blue anyway, since NVMe isn't giving a benefit.

 

https://smile.amazon.com/Sabrent-Rocket-Internal-Performance-SB-ROCKET-1TB/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=sabrent+nvme&qid=1554233655&s=gateway&sr=8-1

 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nGzkcf/corsair-mp510-480gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-cssd-f480gbmp510

there are cheaper ones, like the EX900 and SX600 Pro, but this one is high-performance

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rRCD4D/inland-480gb-25-solid-state-drive-480-gb-ssd

 

180$, I was 10$ off, sorry. 

 

31 minutes ago, Redrooster said:

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OP: I'd recommend getting the intel 660p, as its 110$ which is cheaper than many 2.5" ssds, such as Samsung (overpriced)

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4 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nGzkcf/corsair-mp510-480gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-cssd-f480gbmp510

there are cheaper ones, like the EX900 and SX600 Pro, but this one is high-performance

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rRCD4D/inland-480gb-25-solid-state-drive-480-gb-ssd

 

180$, I was 10$ off, sorry. 

 

OP: I'd recommend getting the intel 660p, as its 110$ which is cheaper than many 2.5" ssds, such as Samsung (overpriced)

Hmm, haven't seen that Corsair before.  Good price.  If the prices keep squishing into each other like that, NVMe will be a viable option even without a real world speed increase.  I mean if I am paying more for Samsung that's no faster than another brand, why not buy NVMe that's no faster than another connection protocol.  Cool :)

 

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