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FPS in Shadow of The Tomb Raider

CrazySnake96

Ok, just to keep things more even I put my GTX 1080Ti in the other PC and ran the benchmark again, same settings and 1080P.

 

The 1080Ti and 2080 are pretty equal in performance.

 

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2 hours ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

A CPU bottleneck would indicate a maximum frame rate. At 1080p low settings, if an RTX 2070 can get 192 FPS on SotTR, then so can an RTX 2080. Similarly on 1080p high settings, if an RTX 2070 can get 100FPS, so can an RTX 2080.

 

All swapping a GPU out for a more powerful one means you have more graphics rendering headroom, it doesn't increase the burden on the CPU aside from it needing to push more render commands out if you're aiming for a higher performance target.

 

 

I just ran it with the exact same settings (Max) he was using on my other machine, 8700K (4.7 Ghz) with both the GTX 1080 and GTX 1080Ti at 1080P.

 

The GTX 1080Ti and 2080 are VERY close to the same performance so the difference really shows up.

 

And posted the screen shots.

 

Compare mine to his and you will see what it's supposed to look like.

 

 

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And to give some idea of what SOTTR can do at MAX settings even to an RTX 2080Ti at 1440P..... RT and DLSS off.

 

You won't be playing at max settings with your 2080 at 1440P....

 

 

SOTTR_2080Ti.jpg

 

 

 

And 2080Ti at 1080P MAX settings just for the heck of it.

 

2080ti_and_1080p.jpg

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8 hours ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

I'm not seeing it having a potential to bottleneck considering other reviewer's tests setups used a CPU of comparable performance to the Ryzen 2700X. And at least one person has been able to get over 100 FPS at 1080p on high quality using an RTX 2070, with low quality achieving 192 FPS: https://www.gpucheck.com/game-gpu/shadow-of-the-tomb-raider/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2070/amd-ryzen-7-2700x/

 

Those are cooked results, it's obvious as what settings are actually used aren't listed and that's with a RTX 2070.... Yeah right. No proof at all, just some numbers typed.

 

No wonder you are confused.

 

192 FPS at low quality at 1080P with a 2070 and 2700X isn't possible.

 

Just tried it, even a 2080Ti and 9900K can't reach that frame rate at those settings at 1080P.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

Those are cooked results, it's obvious as what settings are actually used aren't listed and that's with a RTX 2070.... Yeah right. No proof at all, just some numbers typed.

 

No wonder you are confused.

Stating which preset you're using negates the need to specify every quality setting because they are presets. They're the same for everyone as long as you choose the same preset. If there's any deviation then sure, it's on the onus of the reporter to disclose such. But otherwise you assume they used whatever preset they listed.

 

In any case the original argument you were pushing is that the Ryzen 2700X is causing a CPU bottleneck to the GPU. And I'm claiming that it isn't. So fine, I'll look at another angle: what's the GPU usage during the benchmark run at 1080p maximum quality settings for something that's similar to a GTX 1080 Ti in performance

tl;dw: the GPU usage was over 95% most of the time. That's indication a CPU bottleneck is not happening.

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2 hours ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

Stating which preset you're using negates the need to specify every quality setting because they are presets. They're the same for everyone as long as you choose the same preset. If there's any deviation then sure, it's on the onus of the reporter to disclose such. But otherwise you assume they used whatever preset they listed.

 

In any case the original argument you were pushing is that the Ryzen 2700X is causing a CPU bottleneck to the GPU. And I'm claiming that it isn't. So fine, I'll look at another angle: what's the GPU usage during the benchmark run at 1080p maximum quality settings for something that's similar to a GTX 1080 Ti in performance

tl;dw: the GPU usage was over 95% most of the time. That's indication a CPU bottleneck is not happening.

 

 

Actually they aren't the same, the preset doesn't change the Anti-Aliasing, it stays the same no matter what preset you use. You have to set it manually.

 

It has a HUGE impact on performance.

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Then there is this video here and Jay's video that show different.

 

 

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I do however see were they are getting those high numbers from.

 

It's not the big green ave FPS number, it's the AVE FPS number in the graph at the bottom.

 

Those are the numbers they have been using, not sure why, but they are.

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