Cpu advice? Please?

[SGTechGamer]

After talking with everyone here alot of members advised I go 8 core over 6 core due to my video editing, I went Down to sim lim square to go pick up a 2700 but when I got there the salesperson kept pushing me towards the intel i7 9700k when I said I needed a 8 core. The 9700k is twice the price at sgd$740.00 and the r7 2700 is sgd$459.00 is the 9700k's performance twice the ryzen? So i mean I don't mind paying if it's worth the value, but "holy shit balls" is intel really advanced that much since my Haswell 4770k? I said I go back to day any advice? 

[Shimejii]

9900k Is better overall then a 2700, But its NO WHERE NEAR double. 2700(x) all the way here.

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

3 minutes ago, SGTechGamer said:

salesperson kept pushing me towards the intel i7 9700k

never trust any saleman. they got commision for what they do.

9700k does NOT have HT/ smt  , typically its not  I7.. 2700 is much better in editing

[TheBean]

intel is about 5-10% faster.

intel has better power efficiency (sometimes)

intel has iGPU (usefull for troubleshooting gpu problems)

ryzen is half price

you get a cooler in the box with ryzen (not good enough for overclocking)

 

[SGTechGamer]

1 minute ago, Shimejii said:

9900k Is better overall then a 2700, But its NO WHERE NEAR double. 2700(x) all the way here.

I didn't even ask about the 9900k the processor is sgd$1019

[SGTechGamer]

3 minutes ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

never trust any saleman. they got commision for what they do.

9700k does NOT have HT/ smt  , typically its not  I7.. 2700 is much better in editing

And it still cost double? It's a ripoff. 

He saw me coming a mile away, *hello man what can I do for you? * in his head "ah here comes my walking commission" slurp*

[Shimejii]

6 minutes ago, SGTechGamer said:

I didn't even ask about the 9900k the processor is sgd$1019

z390 is only worth it for the 9900k, All other cpus are not worth it. as 8700k and z370 would becheaper and perform better ;or equal then everything but the 9900k. 2700 (or 2700x) is a bit behind but not by much, i would get the 2700(x) just on the price, as its a great performing cpu.

[Jurrunio]

editing or just plain exporting? The former is a single core job which Intel CPUs do better when overclocked, the latter is a multicore work which Ryzen does better unless the application is from Adobe, because Quicksync export support allows the use of iGPU to make say, an 8700k or 9700k to be faster than a Ryzen 7 2700X or even a TR 1920X.

 

I give "editing" more priority than "exporting" because you actively participate in editing, but don't take part in exporting. If you don't actively take part in something, then how fast it's doing it isn't that important (you can let it do at night when you sleep for example).

[X_X]

Probably get better service at Funan.

[SGTechGamer]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

editing or just plain exporting? The former is a single core job which Intel CPUs do better when overclocked, the latter is a multicore work which Ryzen does better unless the application is from Adobe, because Quicksync export support allows the use of iGPU to make say, an 8700k or 9700k to be faster than a Ryzen 7 2700X or even a TR 1920X.

 

I give "editing" more priority than "exporting" because you actively participate in editing, but don't take part in exporting. If you don't actively take part in something, then how fast it's doing it isn't that important (you can let it do at night when you sleep for example).

Editing, I need to get it done within the same day. I'm the cameraman, editor, soundman and It personal. 

1 minute ago, X_X said:

Probably get better service at Funan.

I should go there have a look. 

[Fasauceome]

18 minutes ago, Saksham said:

 (not good enough for overclocking)

Have you seen the prism? That thing can sure handle an overclock. But the stealth, yeah that's not anything special.

[Jurrunio]

20 minutes ago, SGTechGamer said:

Editing, I need to get it done within the same day. I'm the cameraman, editor, soundman and It personal. 

can you fit the 8700k into your budget? Otherwise stay with the Ryzen 8 core. I assume you're not using Adobe stuff for your main work here.

[SGTechGamer]

9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

can you fit the 8700k into your budget? Otherwise stay with the Ryzen 8 core. I assume you're not using Adobe stuff for your main work here.

Nope no Adobe, I can buy the I 7 8700k but it price for the cpu is sgd$598.00 about $150 more then the 2700

[Jurrunio]

20 minutes ago, SGTechGamer said:

Nope no Adobe, I can buy the I 7 8700k but it price for the cpu is sgd$598.00 about $150 more then the 2700

now that I think about it, what board will you buy for Ryzen? you know, because AM4 still has future upgrades waiting to be released while LGA 1151v2 doesnt. If you have extra money, buying a better board is a better investment than an Intel 8700k and change to its platform.

[SGTechGamer]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

now that I think about it, what board will you buy for Ryzen? you know, because AM4 still has future upgrades waiting to be released while LGA 1151v2 doesnt. If you have extra money, buying a better board is a better investment than an Intel 8700k and change to its platform.

I'm looking at x470s a member explained that the b series wasn't suitable for overclocking a 2700 cpu because of the vrm. 

[hello_there_123]

1 minute ago, SGTechGamer said:

I'm looking at x470s a member explained that the b series wasn't suitable for overclocking a 2700 cpu because of the vrm. 

Not true

 

[Jurrunio]

11 minutes ago, SGTechGamer said:

I'm looking at x470s a member explained that the b series wasn't suitable for overclocking a 2700 cpu because of the vrm. 

The high end X470 ones, yes. Cheap X470 is still no match to the best of B450s mind you, some are even direct copies of their B450 counterparts. There are also B450 boards that can max out a 2700X no problem like the MSI Mortar and Tomahawk. Though you might want to overkill here to hold upgrades, seeing how X399 boards that were designed to hold 16 core CPUs now get the capability to hold 32, suddenly even the best of the older X399 boards are pitifully weak.

[SGTechGamer]

17 minutes ago, hello_there_123 said:

Not true

 

Wow msi really took a dump on everyone else huh? 

8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The high end X470 ones, yes. Cheap X470 is still no match to the best of B450s mind you, some are even direct copies of their B450 counterparts. There are also B450 boards that can max out a 2700X no problem like the MSI Mortar and Tomahawk. Though you might want to overkill here to hold upgrades, seeing how X399 boards that were designed to hold 16 core CPUs now get the capability to hold 32, suddenly even the best of the older X399 boards are pitifully weak.

I'm going I X so I'll try to get my hands on a msi b450i gaming plus ac 

[Gareque]

From when I was looking up the specs I am pretty sure I compared those 2 and the Intel was around 5-10% faster than the Ryzen.

 

The 2700 is an insanely powerful CPU for the price tag and far more cost-effective than the Intel.  Sure, it's more powerful, at least in gaming, but I'm pretty sure the Ryzen has stronger multi-core use, which would help the editing more.

[SGTechGamer]

30 minutes ago, Gareque said:

From when I was looking up the specs I am pretty sure I compared those 2 and the Intel was around 5-10% faster than the Ryzen.

 

The 2700 is an insanely powerful CPU for the price tag and far more cost-effective than the Intel.  Sure, it's more powerful, at least in gaming, but I'm pretty sure the Ryzen has stronger multi-core use, which would help the editing more.

I agree, I've been researching on ryzen since I'd be spending no less then sgd$3000 on the editing build. It's better on multi core use. 

[HoneyBadger84]

Yeah keep in mind, a lot of sales people get commission so they make money based on what they sell. I would recommend the 2700x if you do more than just gaming. The 9900k is "better", but it's not "twice the price" better, so unless money is no object, it's better to get the 2700x.