2080ti Brand selection

[RJ56Hours]

Inno3D GeForce RTX2080TI TWIN X2 OC Edition 11GB is the cheapest in my region. (~1110USD) I wonder should I get this cheap 2080ti or go for some mid-priced card liie GIGABYTE RTX2080TI GAMING OC Edition 11GB GDDR6 (~1500USD)? I know the cheaper one is going to have weaker heat dissipation and only has 8+6 power, I wonder how much weaker will that be compared to the higher end ones. And can a 8+6 power do as much OC?

[Jurrunio]

With that cooler, don't expect overclocking. It's no better than the reference card in cooling and while they run ok at stock, overclocking makes them shout.

 

This power plug config limits power to 300w, which is higher than the factory max power limit at 290w (lower than reference card's 320w) and does hurt overclocking a bit. You'll be limited by the cooler first though, so it's not a problem.

[LukeLinusFanFic]

You won't be getting 30% performance gain. 

[RJ56Hours]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

With that cooler, don't expect overclocking. It's no better than the reference card in cooling and while they run ok at stock, overclocking makes them shout.

 

This power plug config limits power to 300w, which is higher than the factory max power limit at 290w (lower than reference card's 320w) and does hurt overclocking a bit. You'll be limited by the cooler first though, so it's not a problem.

Now my plan is to get the Palit one(Palit GeForce RTX 2080 Ti GamingPro 11GB GDDR6) which costs about 1200usd in my regeion, and water cool it with G12NZXT and some cheap 120mm cooler. Do you think it wins over getting the inno3d and the higher end air cooled ones? Do you know if G12 is compatible with Palit too?

[RJ56Hours]

1 minute ago, RJ56Hours said:

Now my plan is to get the Palit one(Palit GeForce RTX 2080 Ti GamingPro 11GB GDDR6) which costs about 1200usd in my regeion, and water cool it with G12NZXT and some cheap 120mm cooler. Do you think it wins over getting the inno3d and the higher end air cooled ones? Do you know if G12 is compatible with Palit too?

and how much oc can i do with it?

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, RJ56Hours said:

Now my plan is to get the Palit one(Palit GeForce RTX 2080 Ti GamingPro 11GB GDDR6) which costs about 1200usd in my regeion, and water cool it with G12NZXT and some cheap 120mm cooler. Do you think it wins over getting the inno3d and the higher end air cooled ones? Do you know if G12 is compatible with Palit too?

stupid idea, the PCB's still the same and you pay extra 100 usd for nothing.

 

and it's still not beating any high end air cooled 2080ti, cheap coolers suck.

[RJ56Hours]

8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

stupid idea, the PCB's still the same and you pay extra 100 usd for nothing.

 

and it's still not beating any high end air cooled 2080ti, cheap coolers suck.

but the Palit one has 8x8 pin power, so it wont limit the power for overclocking right? Plus by cheap water coolers, I meant something like Kraken M22, so am I getting better value or u would still suggest me to go for at least a three fan model?

[xg32]

12 minutes ago, RJ56Hours said:

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If you want to squeeze the most out of a 2080 ti, but can't get the founder's edition, then you are stuck with getting the cheaper cards and slapping an AIO on it/putting it under water, keeping the card cool will make it boost about 3-5% higher, which results in a 2% gain in frames, i personally don't think that's worth it so just stick with the cheapest air-cooled model.

 

If i was to use aftermarket cooling, it has to be the founder's edition.

[RJ56Hours]

17 minutes ago, xg32 said:

If you want to squeeze the most out of a 2080 ti, but can't get the founder's edition, then you are stuck with getting the cheaper cards and slapping an AIO on it/putting it under water, keeping the card cool will make it boost about 3-5% higher, which results in a 2% gain in frames, i personally don't think that's worth it so just stick with the cheapest air-cooled model.

 

If i was to use aftermarket cooling, it has to be the founder's edition.

So basically the higher priced ones are factory over-clocked and with better cooling, and but I could still achieve that by slapping an AIO and manually over clock it, and it would still be the same, correct?

[RJ56Hours]

Just now, RJ56Hours said:

So basically the higher priced ones are factory over-clocked and with better cooling, and but I could still achieve that by slapping an AIO and manually over clock it, and it would still be the same, correct?

and will it be overkill if i get a 1000w watt from corsair for 2700x and 2080ti? Both with OCing?

[xg32]

34 minutes ago, RJ56Hours said:

So basically the higher priced ones are factory over-clocked and with better cooling, and but I could still achieve that by slapping an AIO and manually over clock it, and it would still be the same, correct?

because of how boost 3.0 works, a base card (founders) with an AIO is always better than anything on air, the 1080 ti hybrid i have in my old rig runs at 49C load whereas my 2080 ti xc on a 275w power limit runs at 69C. I flashed the bios to 330w but the headroom from 275w to 330w is useless because the card would run at the same boost clock lowered by 79C.

 

Now imagine if i had a hybrid cooler slapped on to the 2080 ti (evga's selling the cooler for 150usd, a tad too much for me), if i can lower the 275w temps for the 2080 ti 49C i'd gain at least 60mhz on the core, but thats not worth 150usd, as my card is a crappy overclocker to begin with, only founder's edition cards are almost guaranteed to be good overclockers as nvidia keeps the best cards for themselves.

 

I'd take a cheaper card with AIO over a higher priced air-cooled card 100% of the time for the RTX series.

 

Someone posted saying his evga ftw3 (1400usd card) only boosts to 1995 (the worst card i've seen basically) no matter what, my base model xc goes to 1995-2010 (it's already a bad overclocker), Jayz2cents (youtuber) also had his 500w lightningz not get past 2100, all this points to the founders' edition having the best chance of good cards and paying any (up to 400usd) premium for a partner card is extremely risky.

 

With some luck, you can get a cheap air-cooled card, pay 100usd for a AIO and hit 2100+ due to low temps, even if you lose the silicon lottery, u'd only paid 1300usd~ instead of 1500.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, RJ56Hours said:

but the Palit one has 8x8 pin power, so it wont limit the power for overclocking right? Plus by cheap water coolers, I meant something like Kraken M22, so am I getting better value or u would still suggest me to go for at least a three fan model?

the stock vbios on the Palit Gaming Pro is set to 280w only so it might even overclock worse than the Inno3d.

 

M22 is garbage

 

CLC120 is a 120mm one, X42 is a 140mm one, both beat the M22 significantly. Not to mention the 240mm ones which are not expensive at all.

44 minutes ago, RJ56Hours said:

and will it be overkill if i get a 1000w watt from corsair for 2700x and 2080ti? Both with OCing?

these two can barely draw more than 600w even in P95 and Furmark at the same time, 750W is already enough.

[RJ56Hours]

2 hours ago, xg32 said:

because of how boost 3.0 works, a base card (founders) with an AIO is always better than anything on air, the 1080 ti hybrid i have in my old rig runs at 49C load whereas my 2080 ti xc on a 275w power limit runs at 69C. I flashed the bios to 330w but the headroom from 275w to 330w is useless because the card would run at the same boost clock lowered by 79C.

 

Now imagine if i had a hybrid cooler slapped on to the 2080 ti (evga's selling the cooler for 150usd, a tad too much for me), if i can lower the 275w temps for the 2080 ti 49C i'd gain at least 60mhz on the core, but thats not worth 150usd, as my card is a crappy overclocker to begin with, only founder's edition cards are almost guaranteed to be good overclockers as nvidia keeps the best cards for themselves.

 

I'd take a cheaper card with AIO over a higher priced air-cooled card 100% of the time for the RTX series.

 

Someone posted saying his evga ftw3 (1400usd card) only boosts to 1995 (the worst card i've seen basically) no matter what, my base model xc goes to 1995-2010 (it's already a bad overclocker), Jayz2cents (youtuber) also had his 500w lightningz not get past 2100, all this points to the founders' edition having the best chance of good cards and paying any (up to 400usd) premium for a partner card is extremely risky.

 

With some luck, you can get a cheap air-cooled card, pay 100usd for a AIO and hit 2100+ due to low temps, even if you lose the silicon lottery, u'd only paid 1300usd~ instead of 1500.

For some reason, founders edition sales for 1600Usd in my region, it's even more expensive than the ones from other brand.

[RJ56Hours]

4 minutes ago, RJ56Hours said:

For some reason, founders edition sales for 1600Usd in my region, it's even more expensive than the ones from other brand.

The seahawk x from msi is ~1500usd, should I just go for that?

[Ebony Falcon]

As long as its a a1 revision of the chip it has to he same chance as any other card

 

the more the power limit the better

same woth cooling

 

A cheep card with high power limit and a aio is best bet

 

ei the kfa cards are reference pcb with high limit