Possible custom loop

[Kruziik_Kel]

I have been considering changing case and doing a loop for a while and I drafted up a loop in a Switch 810 ended up with this

was thinking res>pump>240mm>GPU>CPU>360mm>res no idea if thats good or not being a bit of a noob

and id put together a list of potential components and wanted to check them past some people a bit more knowledgeable than myself, I had planned on using:

1x Koolance CPU-380I

1x Koolance VID-AR797 (not sure about that one) or an XSPC Razor

1x Bitspower Z-Multi 250mm res (again not too sure about that one)

11x Bitspower 1/4" thread compression fittings (3/8"ID 1/2"OD)

some Primochill PrimoFlex Advanced LRT

XSPC EX series radiators

and an XSPC D5

with either a Biocide or Silver Kill Coil

id be cooling a 3570K, overclocked obviously and a 7970 similarly overclocked, if you have any suggestions on any of the components, or a smaller case that would still fit enough rads to cool the components well id apreciate it

Im not 100% sure ill even bother with it though id still like to check with some others for if I do, tanks in advance

[Milta]

I am by no means an expert, but just from reading the beginning of your post order doesn't really matter as the water is moving so quickly, and from what I know you may want to flip that front rad so it can bleed easier, bubbles are going to get caught in the top and you're going to have a hard time getting them out. I can't really add any input on the parts, as I don't have any experience. Just my two cents.

[Kruziik_Kel]

I am by no means an expert, but just from reading the beginning of your post order doesn't really matter as the water is moving so quickly, and from what I know you may want to flip that front rad so it can bleed easier, bubbles are going to get caught in the top and you're going to have a hard time getting them out. I can't really add any input on the parts, as I don't have any experience. Just my two cents.

Thanks, so I want the rad with the ports at the top now just need someone to look at the components and hopefully find a smaller case, not that there is a problem with the switch it is just a bit big even if I can fit it

[Whaler_99]

All you components look ok - Bitspower are a quality brand name, as is the Koolance and XSPC. I am partial to the razor blocks - I like the look of those.

​Cases wise, most people are very particular about the case they want and then see what they can fit in it. The Fractal Define XL r2 is a nice case that can hold a couple of rads. Best bet, do a search on cases. Bunch of threads on that topic. :)

Also - probably need 12 compression fittings - each component needs two. And as Milta mentions, if you can, mount the front rad with the ports at the top. For order, make sure the outlet of the res feeds into the intake of the pump, so it won't run dry. Other then that, order doesn't matter - whatever works. Typically though, make them as short and neat as possible...

[Kruziik_Kel]

All you components look ok - Bitspower are a quality brand name' date=' as is the Koolance and XSPC. I am partial to the razor blocks - I like the look of those. ​Cases wise, most people are very particular about the case they want and then see what they can fit in it. The Fractal Define XL r2 is a nice case that can hold a couple of rads. Best bet, do a search on cases. Bunch of threads on that topic. :) Also - probably need 12 compression fittings - each component needs two. And as Milta mentions, if you can, mount the front rad with the ports at the top. For order, make sure the outlet of the res feeds into the intake of the pump, so it won't run dry. Other then that, order doesn't matter - whatever works. Typically though, make them as short and neat as possible... [/quote']

Thanks, I think I might go for the Razor I think it would generally fit in better and its a little cheaper than the Koolance block any suggestions on a back plate? shame XSPC dont do them their Titan block and Back plate look quite nice.

I put together a few more revised loops (Apologies for my horrible MS Paint skills) two in the Switch 810 and one in a TJ07 which may be a little expensive

Firstly a revision of my original loop with the suggestions already made

2nd something I have seen in a few loops in the Switch 810 with a 240mm along the bottom rather than the front and the pump in between it and the res

And finally the TJ07, I found a place here in the UK that will sell me one fully powder coated and modded to have room for a 30mm thick tripple rad in the roof for a reasonable price now this one has a lot more simple runs though I think i would probably need to either employ some angled fittings in the bottom or just some clever tubing routing (sorry for it being so small its strange how hard it is to come across a picture of one empty in a decent size)

this would mean replacing the XSPC 240mm with a thinner 360mm rad like a Black Ice GT Stealth, any suggestions on that or is that a good one?

also how often would I be looking to maintain it? from what ive read every 6 months is typically recommended, would you agree with this, should it be done more often or even less often?

Also ive heard some things about Primochill tubing having issues with the Mayhems Pastel coolant and some issues with the plasticizer is there any truth to this and if so would you recommend Alphacool AlphaTube HF?

[airdeano]

nix the BIGT for an alphacool ST360. similar fin count as the XSPC, so using the same fan

throughout the build is better than having screaming fans on one and low-speed on the other.

using the primochill "advanced" seems to be ok with the pastel. the XSPC hi-flex is great hose.

airdeano

[Kruziik_Kel]

nix the BIGT for an alphacool ST360. similar fin count as the XSPC, so using the same fan

throughout the build is better than having screaming fans on one and low-speed on the other.

using the primochill "advanced" seems to be ok with the pastel. the XSPC hi-flex is great hose.

airdeano

Found it

http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/Alphacool-NexXxoS-ST30-360mm-Triple-Radiator--Full-Copper-pid-15305.html

thanks for the suggestion

[losinator501]

Hey Kruziik, it's good to see you here. Considering moving over here full time as our old forum is falling apart :(

Anyway, to help with case choice, Fractal Arc Midi V2 is a great watercooling case, and it's smaller than the 810.

EDIT: I'm lieutenant BTW

[Whaler_99]

The TJ case is really nice - you 2nd switch layout is similar to what I have in mine. As airdeano says, go for the alphacool rad. I myself use the XSPC tubing, no issues. For maintenance, depends on a few factors, but I typically plan on once per year. If you case is somewhere where it gets a lot of direct sunlight, maybe 9 months...

For a back plate - find one that fits and looks nice. They have no functional value. Heatkiller makes some nice ones.

[Kruziik_Kel]

The TJ case is really nice - you 2nd switch layout is similar to what I have in mine. As airdeano says, go for the alphacool rad. I myself use the XSPC tubing, no issues. For maintenance, depends on a few factors, but I typically plan on once per year. If you case is somewhere where it gets a lot of direct sunlight, maybe 9 months... For a back plate - find one that fits and looks nice. They have no functional value. Heatkiller makes some nice ones.

Thanks again for the advice, Would you suggest going 3/8"ID 5/8"OD with the XSPC Tube? also thoughts on the XSPC EC6 coolant? its a fair bit cheaper than the Mayhems coolant and from what ive read so far things look promising and it being UV reactive I might invest in clear tubing and some of those Phobya UV LED strips, struggling for a back plate Heatkiller look pk but I dont think they would really fit in with the Black/Blue id be going for though there would be some hints of silver from the Koolance CPU block ill most certainly look into it more 

[Whaler_99]

Check performance-pcs.com - they seem to carry a lot of back plates. Give you some ideals. As for tubing, I am using XSPC clear with EK UV cooling. I would assume though the XSPC coolant be a good quality as well. I went 7/16" ID on mine - what came with a kit and compression fittings - so I pretty much stick with that for compatibility. The 3/8" though should be fine as well.

[airdeano]

also check specialtech.com for water-cooling bits.

 

the XSPC hose and coolant are both good and no incompatibility..

 

airdeano

[Ghost]

Also ive heard some things about Primochill tubing having issues with the Mayhems Pastel coolant and some issues with the plasticizer is there any truth to this and if so would you recommend Alphacool AlphaTube HF?

Firstly people who have issues with this are either complete idiots and don't read or very unlucky. If anyone went to mayhems website this is the warning that takes up half of the pastel coolant page:

 

 

 

Before Using Mayhems Pastel range

The system must be clean and have no chemicals of any kind left in the loop. There must be an absence of bleach, biocide and anti corrosive inhibitors. We recommend you flush your system with either DI water or Mayhems Ultra Pure H20 before use. Mayhems Pastel has biocides and inhibitors included within the mixture.

 

Do not use Mayhems Pastel with Primochill tubing or Tygon tubing as Mayhems Pastel seems to react with it changing the colour of the tubing to a greenish colour. This is not the fault of Primochill, Tygon or Mayhems it is just a incompatibility issue. Pastel works fine with XSPC, Thermochill, Clear Flex, Masterclear and a few other brands.

[ryan9298b2]

Use SilverStone AP-123 fans for all of the rads

[Kruziik_Kel]

Right so im now looking at:

 

 

1x XSPC D5 Vario (body+Screwring)

1x XSPC Acetal Top for Laing D5

1x XSPC EX Series 480mm Quad Radiator (TJ07) / XSPC EX Series 240mm (Switch 810)

1x Alphacool Nexxos ST30 360mm Tripple Radiator (TJ07) / XSPC WX Series 360mm (Switch 810)

1x Alphacool Nexxos GPU Backplate

1x Koolance CPU-380I CPU Waterblock

1x XSPC Razor 7970 GPU waterblock

1x Bitspower Z-Multi 250mm Reservoir

12x Bitspower 1/4" Thread Compression Fittings for 3/8"ID 5/8OD Tubing 

3x Corsair SP Series PWM High Preasure Fan Dual Pack (2x For Switch 810)

1x Corsair SP Series PWM High Preasure Fan 

XSPC High Flex Hose 3/8″ ID, 5/8″ OD Clear / Blue

2x XSPC EC6 Non-Conductive Coolant 1L UV Blue

1x Arctic MX-4 Carbon Based Thermal Compond

Crap for cleaning thermal compound

 

possibly investing in some angled fittings 

and the last layouts I posted for both cases, any other suggestions? 

 

also just wanted to say you guys have been a really great help

[Ghost]

I highly recommend the Heatkiller 79X0 water-block just because it looks amazing and has one of the best performance vs. restriction ratios afaik.

 

Personally use it, the backplate they make also looks amazing.

[Whaler_99]

If you are going XSPC GPU block, doesn't the Razer have the LED? Then go with XSPC CPU block - same thing, can get it with LED to match. :D

[Kruziik_Kel]

I highly recommend the Heatkiller 79X0 water-block just because it looks amazing and has one of the best performance vs. restriction ratios afaik.

 

Personally use it, the backplate they make also looks amazing.

 

I do agree the Heatkiller looks quite nice and it is a very good block, but im not sure it would really fit with the mostly Black/Blue components, though in saying that the CPU Block unless I went for the XSPC Block so that it matches does have some silver so it may fit ill need to look into it a bit more 

[airdeano]

I do agree the Heatkiller looks quite nice and it is a very good block, but im not sure it would really fit with the mostly Black/Blue components, though in saying that the CPU Block unless I went for the XSPC Block so that it matches does have some silver so it may fit ill need to look into it a bit more 

 

you can easily wrap the HK top plate in a color to match the build. it is not permanent

and can be detailed to the nine's.

 

airdeano