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On 2/22/2019 at 11:14 AM, Blai5e said:

Don't mix aluminum and copper... the radiator you listed is aluminum and the GPU block is copper or you'll be inviting galvanic (dissimilar metal) corrosion to the party.

 

Go for full copper or full aluminum only in your loop.

the AIO Rad is the same as the Rad I got... they are both Aluminum... I am pretty sure its a copper plate on the outside... it screws in.... Cooler Master is probably aware of mixing metals...

 

THE TEST WORKED! 

 

so with an AIO cooler broken apart, I have the res feeding the pump/cpu block, into 360 then into 240 and back into the res ... flow is really decent .. STAYING firmly around 30c on idle 

 

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I am doing a custom loop and want to take apart my Cooler Master 240L AIO and use the pump and the 240 rad for the new build.

 

i am adding in a res,360 rad, and a gpu block for my gtx 1070

 

Does anyone have a general idea of what size fittings standard AIO Coolers Use? 

 

Can I remove the stock fittings and put g1/4 fittings that match the ones I ordered? 

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Idk, don’t have a pic of it to say. 

 

But assuming that weak little pump will handle all of that is quite bold. 

 

 

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this is my AIO cooler from Cooler Master getting 39c -42c on idle and 70c - 80c on FULL load at overclock from 3.0 mhz to 3.9mhz on a ryzen 7 1700.  

 

with a push/pull fan setup ... 2 on each side of the Rad ... 

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Well the barbs are prolly 3/8 like most. Won’t be taking those fittings off any time soon. 

 

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Videos on YouTube show a majority of CPU AIO blocks are just plastic single barbs.  Use a exacto knife and slice in the direction of the tubing shallow cuts (so you don't hit the plastic barb) then use the tip to wiggle the cut open.  Check youtube.

 

Ive thought of doing this but backed out - those are aluminum rads and I went with Copper so not to mix metals

 

@Be Healed in Jesus Name! there is something wrong with your setup - did you put enough paste?  I have a CM Lite 120mm AIO on my R7 1700 and it handles it at 50c max temps 1 hour of Prime95 and Ive got a Tri-X Fury in there (just benched the computer today again) pumping out massive amounts of heat.

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On 2/14/2019 at 2:47 PM, Tristerin said:

Videos on YouTube show a majority of CPU AIO blocks are just plastic single barbs.  Use a exacto knife and slice in the direction of the tubing shallow cuts (so you don't hit the plastic barb) then use the tip to wiggle the cut open.  Check youtube.

 

Ive thought of doing this but backed out - those are aluminum rads and I went with Copper so not to mix metals

 

@Be Healed in Jesus Name! there is something wrong with your setup - did you put enough paste?  I have a CM Lite 120mm AIO on my R7 1700 and it handles it at 50c max temps 1 hour of Prime95 and Ive got a Tri-X Fury in there (just benched the computer today again) pumping out massive amounts of heat.

is yours overclocked? mine is currently at 4.0 but will not cinebench, so its not stable but 3.9 is fine.  I was wondering what settings would make 4.0 stable also? or even 4.1. I have plenty of room on VCORE, currently @1.42v i believe.. That is one reason why i decided to try this. i am at 35c on idle... It is working better now for some reason. I modded the top-back of my case and ran the rad outside of my case and i have 2 push/ 2 pull fans... 

 

So I am going to run dual rads and water cool my GTX 1070.  

 

THIS IS EVERYTHING ORDERED

 

Neon Green Coolant: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Swiftech-HydrX-Coolant-UV-Reactive/251595888821?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

 

GPU Block : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thermaltake-Pacific-V-GTX-10-Founders-Edition-Transparent-Full-Cover-Water-Block/192783783972?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 

 

Barbs : https://www.ebay.com/itm/XSPC-G1-4-to-3-8-Barb-Fitting-Matte-Black-6-pack/232407754913?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

 

Heatsink Pads : https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thermal-Conductive-Silicone-100x100mm-x-0-5mm-GPU-CPU-Heatsink-Cooling-Pad-Blue/253912534974?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

 

Reservoir Plug : https://www.ebay.com/itm/G1-4-Thread-Low-Profile-Stop-Plug-Fitting-PC-Water-Cooling-Radiator-Reservoir-RS/113211700473?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

 

Reservoir : https://www.ebay.com/itm/160-X-50-mm-Tank-G1-4-Thread-Cylinder-Reservoir-Tank-for-PC-Water-Cooling-System/163366300200?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

 

Radiator https://www.ebay.com/itm/360mm-Aluminum-Water-Cooling-Radiator-Liquid-Cooler-Heatsink-PC-Computer-G1-4-US/163192194113?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

 

and this is my current AIO 

 

http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-liquid-cooler/masterliquid-lite-240/

 

Also if AIO pump is not able to handle the flow, I will just buy a pump.. 

 

the AIO rad is aluminum and my new one is also, I believe the copper is only on the outside or Cooler Master just decided to Mix metals

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 2/14/2019 at 1:15 PM, Mick Naughty said:

Well the barbs are prolly 3/8 like most. Won’t be taking those fittings off any time soon. 

 

No way to unthread them ? right now i way over ordered fittings, So before I return them , it would be useful info to have as they want $33 for 12 barbs or $20 for 6

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Jayztwocents kinda tried this with a fractal aio cpu block and pump.It failed badly to pump the whole loop.Its best to just not use nothing from the aio and go all custom loop you'll be a lot happier in the end.

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17 hours ago, andrewmp6 said:

Jayztwocents kinda tried this with a fractal aio cpu block and pump.It failed badly to pump the whole loop.Its best to just not use nothing from the aio and go all custom loop you'll be a lot happier in the end.

your probably right .... if anything i would just need a new pump ... i can use the rad ... a 240 rad is a 240 rad ... i have a back up air cooler if the pump does not work... I am using 3/8 tubing which should give it more pressure as apposed to larger... Ill try it, if my temps are wacked out or it doesn't work... not a problem, ill buy a pump... I also have a 400 gph submersible pump.. i could add that to my loop if needed till i order one   

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Its a aluminum rad and most aios use a odd size fittings,You'll spend more at the hardware store getting adapters to make it a standard size then replacing the rad with a copper one that cools better also.Plus being aluminum the whole loop has to be it the blocks everything.I'd leave the aios as is or scrap them and go full custom look,Anything between will be a nightmare and probably cost more then a custom loop will.

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On 2/21/2019 at 5:03 AM, andrewmp6 said:

Its a aluminum rad and most aios use a odd size fittings,You'll spend more at the hardware store getting adapters to make it a standard size then replacing the rad with a copper one that cools better also.Plus being aluminum the whole loop has to be it the blocks everything.I'd leave the aios as is or scrap them and go full custom look,Anything between will be a nightmare and probably cost more then a custom loop will.

so the fittings were 1/4 and my new rad is 3/8. so i got 1/4 tubing, that is 3/8 od, and put 1" over the barb and then slid my tubing on, worked fine .. everything is not leaking... 

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Don't mix aluminum and copper... the radiator you listed is aluminum and the GPU block is copper or you'll be inviting galvanic (dissimilar metal) corrosion to the party.

 

Go for full copper or full aluminum only in your loop.

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On 2/22/2019 at 11:14 AM, Blai5e said:

Don't mix aluminum and copper... the radiator you listed is aluminum and the GPU block is copper or you'll be inviting galvanic (dissimilar metal) corrosion to the party.

 

Go for full copper or full aluminum only in your loop.

the AIO Rad is the same as the Rad I got... they are both Aluminum... I am pretty sure its a copper plate on the outside... it screws in.... Cooler Master is probably aware of mixing metals...

 

THE TEST WORKED! 

 

so with an AIO cooler broken apart, I have the res feeding the pump/cpu block, into 360 then into 240 and back into the res ... flow is really decent .. STAYING firmly around 30c on idle 

 

8 X RGB Case Fans 

Modded Corsair TX650M to take an RGB case fan

Getting a GPU water block in tomorrow

2 x 3tb hdd in RAID 0

2 X NVMe boot drives in RAID 0

on a Ryzen 7 1700 Oced to 3.9 with 1.875 v and 3200 Mhz Ram

Tomorrow I have Water Cooled Founders Edition GTX 1070

 

NOT BAD!! Not bad at all...   

 

53093742_10216067028060995_1923838155367120896_o.jpg

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2 hours ago, Be Healed in Jesus Name! said:

the AIO Rad is the same as the Rad I got... they are both Aluminum... I am pretty sure its a copper plate on the outside... it screws in.... Cooler Master is probably aware of mixing metals...

 

THE TEST WORKED! 

 

so with an AIO cooler broken apart, I have the res feeding the pump/cpu block, into 360 then into 240 and back into the res ... flow is really decent .. STAYING firmly around 30c on idle 

 

8 X RGB Case Fans 

Modded Corsair TX650M to 

AIOs are almost always mixed metals (exceptions are like EK Predator, Alphacool Eisbaer, the old Fractal Design ones). Its a cost saving feature and manufacturers expect people either not to notice or care. The micro channels that the fluid passes over is copper.

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3 hours ago, For Science! said:

AIOs are almost always mixed metals (exceptions are like EK Predator, Alphacool Eisbaer, the old Fractal Design ones). Its a cost saving feature and manufacturers expect people either not to notice or care. The micro channels that the fluid passes over is copper.

It's not that they expect people to not notice, they just fill it up with so much anti-corrosive that it doesn't matter. 

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11 hours ago, Mehmy said:

It's not that they expect people to not notice, they just fill it up with so much anti-corrosive that it doesn't matter. 

Or be like op and assume it isnt mixed ?

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@Be Healed in Jesus Name!

 

LOVE SEEING ALL THE HATERS. 

 

FYI, for those who don't know about the corrosion portion - Ive done a TON OF RESEARCH, and spoke with the metallurgists at my work.  The largest corrosion will occur if the metals are touching.  In Loops cases - they should not be unless you mix fittings.  Everything else is negligible if you use a proper antifreeze mix.  Ethelyne Glycol @ 33% to distilled battery water for balance of liquid...and you have your anti-corrosion, impossible for anything to live in, environment.  

 

EDIT - my first loop I am doing is in mixed metals, when I ordered the 80mm rads I went with aluminum.  Just waiting on Aliexpress on the blocks, ebay on the rads and Ill pick up tubes when it gets here after measuring.

 

Then Ill do copper in my rig once I upgrade to the next platform since I have those rads now.

 

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Daughter 1 Rig: ASrock B450 Pro4, Ryzen 7 1700 @ 4.2ghz all core 1.4vCore, AMD R9 Fury X w/ Swiftech KOMODO waterblock, Custom Loop 2x240mm + 1x120mm radiators in push/pull 16gb (2x8) Patriot Viper CL14 2666mhz RAM, Corsair HX850 PSU, 250gb Samsun 960 EVO NVMe Win 10 boot drive, 500gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD, 512GB TeamGroup MP30 M.2 SATA III SSD, SuperTalent 512gb SATA III SSD, CoolerMaster HAF XM Case. 

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Daughter 2 Rig: ASUS B350-PRIME ATX, Ryzen 7 1700, Sapphire Nitro+ R9 Fury Tri-X, 16gb (2x8) 3200mhz V-Color Skywalker, ANTEC Earthwatts 750w PSU, MasterLiquid Lite 120 AIO cooler in Push/Pull config as rear exhaust, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo SSD, Patriot Burst 240gb SSD, Cougar MX330-X Case

 

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On 2/25/2019 at 7:09 PM, Tristerin said:

@Be Healed in Jesus Name!

 

LOVE SEEING ALL THE HATERS. 

 

FYI, for those who don't know about the corrosion portion - Ive done a TON OF RESEARCH, and spoke with the metallurgists at my work.  The largest corrosion will occur if the metals are touching.  In Loops cases - they should not be unless you mix fittings.  Everything else is negligible if you use a proper antifreeze mix.  Ethelyne Glycol @ 33% to distilled battery water for balance of liquid...and you have your anti-corrosion, impossible for anything to live in, environment.  

 

EDIT - my first loop I am doing is in mixed metals, when I ordered the 80mm rads I went with aluminum.  Just waiting on Aliexpress on the blocks, ebay on the rads and Ill pick up tubes when it gets here after measuring.

 

Then Ill do copper in my rig once I upgrade to the next platform since I have those rads now.

 

i ordered swiftech fluid and realized it Ethelyne Glycol in it, which car anti freeze does as well, so i mixed distilled water with it and it looks good... i might get some dyes to switch the color... 

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