1920x ram upgrade!

[orze]

i made a thread connected to it not too long ago but i wanted a bit more of a solid answer so here i am!

 

i got a 1920x workstaison/gaming pc 

im not the PROEST gamer so i dont mind having lower fps out of my 1080 for me getting work done way faster

and FPS is something i was well suprsied out of my 1920x by that i mean it holds up is own like a champ!

but! stutter is a bitch. and 1% lows and such fuck me up sometimes HARD.

 

now here is the....embarrassing part....

i didn't know TR is a quad channel cpu and only really put it in dual...that most likly is why i get this stutter...

not too long ago i learnt that while talking with a few people as i wanted to upgrade my ram to something abit beter and well...yea...ill get a quad

good thing i learnt it before buying a new dual....

 

thing is i also know that ryzen love high speed low lac ram...

and found this ram

https://www.newegg.com/global/il-en/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232650&ignorebbr=1

price is more then fair and speeds and lac seem great!

i even looked online and it seems to be Samsung B-die like allot of people told me to get.

i DID saw some that have abit higher lac but up to 3600 but people told me getting this speed running is going to be harder then its worth 

so i feel 3200 is a good middle point?

now here is what im asking.

will something like this ram do the job? am i right by getting 3200? or getting 3600 do a beter work and worth fiddeling with to make it work?>

is something eles better?

HELP a struggling graphical designer understand what to do. XD

 

the pc in question is

a 1920x 4ghz water cooled.

16gb of crosair vengence 2400

asus gtx 1080

and a rm750x PSU

 

[FloRolf]

I'm 90% sure Its not the ram but rather the interface between the dies on the chip. 

The 1950X has a "game mode" which disables the other dies to reduce latency. The 1920X should have that aswell so for gaming you probably need to go that route and disable game mode once you need the cores again. 

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

The 1920X should have that aswe

Isn't it available to all Ryzen chips? I remember that paid benchmark by Intel to promote the i9 9900K among all it's controversity was that the Ryzen 7 2700X was with "game mode" on making it a 4c/8t CPU when tested against the i9.

[orze]

1 hour ago, FloRolf said:

I'm 90% sure Its not the ram but rather the interface between the dies on the chip. 

The 1950X has a "game mode" which disables the other dies to reduce latency. The 1920X should have that aswell so for gaming you probably need to go that route and disable game mode once you need the cores again. 

i donnu i tried playing with game mode before on my 1920x...

it never really did any difference...

like...a few fps here and there but.....notin amazing...stutter was there no metter the mode.

i mean i do need the beter speed anyhow...from what i saw anyways

and TR being a quad channel it needs 4 sticks.

so right now half my cpu dosent REALLY get ram...that seems like a stutter maker isnt it?

[FloRolf]

6 hours ago, orze said:

i donnu i tried playing with game mode before on my 1920x...

it never really did any difference...

like...a few fps here and there but.....notin amazing...stutter was there no metter the mode.

i mean i do need the beter speed anyhow...from what i saw anyways

and TR being a quad channel it needs 4 sticks.

so right now half my cpu dosent REALLY get ram...that seems like a stutter maker isnt it?

No it doesn't. 

 

What's your ram speed actually set to in the bios? 

What is the cpu and gpu usage, ram and vram and clock speeds during the stuttering? 

What resolution are you playing at? 

[orze]

5 hours ago, FloRolf said:

No it doesn't. 

 

What's your ram speed actually set to in the bios? 

What is the cpu and gpu usage, ram and vram and clock speeds during the stuttering? 

What resolution are you playing at? 

ok...it dosent i gess...

 

im running 2400 in bios

cpu usage is about 40-55%

and gpu about 60-70% from my chacks its just bottol necked by the cpu

ram is about 10gb out of 16.

and 1920x1080

in BFV

[FloRolf]

27 minutes ago, orze said:

ok...it dosent i gess...

 

im running 2400 in bios

cpu usage is about 40-55%

and gpu about 60-70% from my chacks its just bottol necked by the cpu

ram is about 10gb out of 16.

and 1920x1080

in BFV

Your ram is pretty slow. Try to dial it a little higher. 

What's the CPU usage in the highest used core? Probably around 80%?

Seems like a Bottleneck, yes. Again, what are cpu/gpu clockspeeds? 

 

Why only 1080p? The lower the resolution the more you'll see CPU bottlenecks. Your 1080 should be able to handle at least 1440p so try that with DSR. 

 

[orze]

39 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Your ram is pretty slow. Try to dial it a little higher. 

What's the CPU usage in the highest used core? Probably around 80%?

Seems like a Bottleneck, yes. Again, what are cpu/gpu clockspeeds? 

 

Why only 1080p? The lower the resolution the more you'll see CPU bottlenecks. Your 1080 should be able to handle at least 1440p so try that with DSR. 

 

cpu is at 4ghz on all cores

gpu is for now on normal clocks with boost and all. so i think it boosts up to like 2000 on core and 10,000 memory...

 

and well im a fps junky.

got a 240hz 1080 monitor so i rather have higher fps then higher resulotion.

diffrence isnt that insane from 144 to 240hz ofcourse but i dont own a 144hz 1440p monitor

and my 4k monitor is only 60hz. so...yea

[FloRolf]

29 minutes ago, orze said:

cpu is at 4ghz on all cores

gpu is for now on normal clocks with boost and all. so i think it boosts up to like 2000 on core and 10,000 memory...

 

and well im a fps junky.

got a 240hz 1080 monitor so i rather have higher fps then higher resulotion.

diffrence isnt that insane from 144 to 240hz ofcourse but i dont own a 144hz 1440p monitor

and my 4k monitor is only 60hz. so...yea

I really hope that you didn't get the idea of using Threadripper for high FPS gaming from this forum. If you did then we seriously need to ban whoever recommended that to you. 

 

Just give it a try in higher resolution though to see if that helps the stuttering. 

[orze]

17 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

I really hope that you didn't get the idea of using Threadripper for high FPS gaming from this forum. If you did then we seriously need to ban whoever recommended that to you. 

 

Just give it a try in higher resolution though to see if that helps the stuttering. 

no offnse but if u read anything from what i wrote...

here is the part u should read again please

"i got a 1920x workstaison/gaming pc.

im not the PROEST gamer so i dont mind having lower fps out of my 1080 for me getting work done way faster

and FPS is something i was well suprsied out of my 1920x by that i mean it holds up is own like a champ!

but! stutter is a bitch. and 1% lows and such fuck me up sometimes HARD."

This is my workstation

im not interested in 2 PC's so i built 1 that can do both at least good

the 1920x does an amazing work at graphic design and 3d.

and i can still play on it wan i got time

u can get some NICE fps from it

and have a friend with a 1950x and a titan x that gets much better fps on bfv then me.

and im even now can get a nice 100 just with stutter.

he has the same ram as me (but 2666mhz) only quad channel and he gets almost no stutter from what i asked him

he is how i discovered TR is quad channel based.

 

so NO im not planing on getting 240 fps out of my pc.

but clearly i can get over 100!

and my ram speed and dual channel must be holding it back

i saw videos of 1700x cpu's being boosted up by high speed low lac by ALLOT.

turning them to a a pretty solid gaming cpu

and of course im not thinking my 1920x will do the same its clear its being held back BAD.

and ram is the only thing i got that is sub par to say the best at the moment

i more or less know this is the problem from allot of research i only asked if this kit fits a 1920x well....

 

so lets not ban any one thank you.

[FloRolf]

12 minutes ago, orze said:

no offnse but if u read anything from what i wrote...

here is the part u should read again please

"i got a 1920x workstaison/gaming pc.

im not the PROEST gamer so i dont mind having lower fps out of my 1080 for me getting work done way faster

and FPS is something i was well suprsied out of my 1920x by that i mean it holds up is own like a champ!

but! stutter is a bitch. and 1% lows and such fuck me up sometimes HARD."

This is my workstation

im not interested in 2 PC's so i built 1 that can do both at least good

the 1920x does an amazing work at graphic design and 3d.

and i can still play on it wan i got time

u can get some NICE fps from it

and have a friend with a 1950x and a titan x that gets much better fps on bfv then me.

and im even now can get a nice 100 just with stutter.

he has the same ram as me (but 2666mhz) only quad channel and he gets almost no stutter from what i asked him

he is how i discovered TR is quad channel based.

 

so NO im not planing on getting 240 fps out of my pc.

but clearly i can get over 100!

and my ram speed and dual channel must be holding it back

i saw videos of 1700x cpu's being boosted up by high speed low lac by ALLOT.

turning them to a a pretty solid gaming cpu

and of course im not thinking my 1920x will do the same its clear its being held back BAD.

and ram is the only thing i got that is sub par to say the best at the moment

i more or less know this is the problem from allot of research i only asked if this kit fits a 1920x well....

 

so lets not ban any one thank you.

I mean, if he's your friend, just swap ram for a day to see if that helps. 

Double to quad channel should really not make a difference in gaming even with Threadripper. 2400mhz is pretty slow though, so is 2666. Threadripper also doesn't support high ram frequency tho. 

[orze]

2 hours ago, FloRolf said:

I mean, if he's your friend, just swap ram for a day to see if that helps. 

Double to quad channel should really not make a difference in gaming even with Threadripper. 2400mhz is pretty slow though, so is 2666. Threadripper also doesn't support high ram frequency tho. 

yea i did hear that getting 3600 is a thing u can do but needs allot of playign around but 3200 should work like a champ. from what i understand anyways