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Can recommend the 2070’of MSI. Never has run a hair hotter than 69c. Under load at 1440p, highest settings everything enabled. On idle it sits around 29-31c. (At times it idles at 23-25c depending on ambient)

 

 You’ll have about 8-11% gains over an 1080 + you are able to use Ray tracing + DLSS down the line once more adopted. 

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Hey guys!

Interesting situation here.

 

I bought an MSI Armor OC 1080 last christmas from Canada for 670CAD. It runs too good. ~2000 Mhz EZ.

I live in middle east where prices are jacked. Just upgraded monitor to have 1440p 144Hz.

I can sell 1080 now for around 700CADs worth to some guy in my city.

 

Will it be a good idea to sell and pay the difference for another new card, say the 2070 for CAD.730? I'm not looking to be an early adopter of Ray tracing or am hyped for it or anything like that, just looking for more performance to satisfy the new monitor. Run my AAA games at that res as smooth as I can.

If so, which model should I be wary of and which ones to look for? I use memoryexpress Calgary to pick up new parts through my brother who flies in and out.

 

Thanks!

 

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Cpu is an R5 2600 at 3.8Ghz + 16gb ram OC to 2766Mhz or something. and these are the cards I'm considering. image.png.782403684e5574b75ab0bd77c594bf71.png

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5 minutes ago, Casual Cube said:

Hey guys!

Interesting situation here.

 

I bought an MSI Armor OC 1080 last christmas from Canada for 670CAD. It runs too good. ~2000 Mhz EZ.

I live in middle east where prices are jacked. Just upgraded monitor to have 1440p 144Hz.

Can sell 1080 now for around 700CADs worth to some guy in my city.

 

Will it be a good idea to sell and pay the difference for another new card, say the 2070 at 730? Im not looking to be an early adopter of Ray tracing or anything, just looking for more performance to satisfy the new monitor.

If so, which model should I be wary of and which ones to look for? I use memoryexpress Calgary to pick up new parts through my brother who flies in and out.

 

Thanks!

 

Cpu is an R5 2600 at 3.8Ghz + 16gb ram OC to 2766Mhz or something.

As I understand it, the difference in performance isn't very much. But if you can get it for only 30$ difference, then sure, go for it

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5 minutes ago, Casual Cube said:

Hey guys!

Interesting situation here.

 

I bought an MSI Armor OC 1080 last christmas from Canada for 670CAD. It runs too good. ~2000 Mhz EZ.

I live in middle east where prices are jacked. Just upgraded monitor to have 1440p 144Hz.

Can sell 1080 now for around 700CADs worth to some guy in my city.

 

Will it be a good idea to sell and pay the difference for another new card, say the 2070 at 730? Im not looking to be an early adopter of Ray tracing or anything, just looking for more performance to satisfy the new monitor.

If so, which model should I be wary of and which ones to look for? I use memoryexpress Calgary to pick up new parts through my brother who flies in and out.

 

Thanks!

 

Cpu is an R5 2600 at 3.8Ghz + 16gb ram OC to 2766Mhz or something.

So far the coolest and quietest 2070 I've seen is the gigabyte windforce, if can look for aorus X it's great too

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Follow up question here guys;

Should I suck it up for another 2 months without a graphics card and get a 2080 instead for an additional 250CAD? I do have a spare GTX950 for any immediate needs. Cheapest one I can find is a windforce for 960CAD. 

 

Edit: additionally, dont windforce cards whine a lot pretty quickly?

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5 minutes ago, Casual Cube said:

Should I suck it up for another 2 months without a graphics card and get a 2080 instead for an additional 250CAD? I do have a spare GTX950 for any immediate needs. Cheapest one I can find is a windforce for 960CAD. 

Yes

 

5 minutes ago, Casual Cube said:

Edit: additionally, dont windforce cards whine a lot pretty quickly?

windforce cards use the same type of inductors and many other cards do. They all have a chance to whine

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On 2/5/2019 at 5:55 AM, GGPLAYING said:

Wait and buy 2080. Performance jump between 2080 and 2070 is more than 1080 and 2070.

does it warrant the 2 month wait + 250-ish dollar though? Its closer to 1440p 144Hz sure but I'm struggling to justify that much money for gaming to be honest. 

 

On 2/5/2019 at 5:56 AM, Jurrunio said:

Yes

windforce cards use the same type of inductors and many other cards do. They all have a chance to whine

I've heard its more because of their poor quality fan bearings. EVGA, MSI and Asus are known to always use a more premium type which gigabyte only does in the aurus line. Something along these lines is what my memory tells me I cant be too sure.

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1 minute ago, Casual Cube said:

does it warrant the 2 month wait + 250-ish dollar though? Its closer to 1440p 144Hz sure but I'm struggling to justify that much money for gaming to be honest. 

Are you fine waiting and spending the extra money? If you are, it's worth it.

 

Buy as much GPU as you can justify yourself. If you want fps, you can always turn down settings

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26 minutes ago, GGPLAYING said:

I recommend buying Strix. Had it a couple of times and experienced no problems.

Ive been an MSI gpu fanboy for a long time. So far my picks for trusted products are EVGA and MSI. so far. I'm almkokst certain that asus is also a quality brand with my little experience in recent months but sadly, they target a higher demographic with their pricing. This time around I might be giving Gigabyte a try for their Aorus 2070 (non extreme) which seems to be priced pretty nicely. If I run into any bad reviews out there, I'll have to stick to the MSI armor yet again as, honestly, theyve never let me down and are priced competitively.

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MSI and Gigabyte are good too. Asus ROG Strix is simply the best on the market.  MSI is only good if you are buying Gaming X Trio or Lightning models. Gigabyte you should buy only Aorus. Other Gigabyte models are a waste of money. I recommend getting the one that you can afford, but yes, a couple of months without a GPU and extra 250 bucks won’t hurt.

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2 hours ago, Casual Cube said:

Will it be a good idea to sell and pay the difference for another new card, say the 2070 for CAD.730?

No, not really.
Especially as the other Card isn't really any better.

 

So I'd rather not do that right now...

 

At least wait a week and show how Radeon VII really is and what that will do.

No need to rush it, right?

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On 2/5/2019 at 6:11 PM, Stefan Payne said:

No, not really.
Especially as the other Card isn't really any better.

 

So I'd rather not do that right now...

 

At least wait a week and show how Radeon VII really is and what that will do.

No need to rush it, right?

Absolutely true, I ended up doing this. I had time to spare anyway. Turns out it does do good but is still priced at 700usd. Thats out of my budget.

and after my extensive research into the 2070, I think I'm good lol. Besides, wouldnt 1440p@144 be similar if not more demanding than 4k@60?
 

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GTX 1080 vs RTX 2070 is only 8% difference.  Is this a joke ?  When I did my upgrade it was almost 500% difference

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54 minutes ago, THraShArD said:

GTX 1080 vs RTX 2070 is only 8% difference.  Is this a joke ?  When I did my upgrade it was almost 500% difference

why you got on your signature RTX 2080ti 11GB if you upgraded to 2070? ?

GTX 1080<RTX 2070<GTX 1080ti

the only plus of 2070 over 1080ti its Ray tracing overall performance its to 1080ti

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On 2/5/2019 at 5:20 PM, Casual Cube said:

Follow up question here guys;

Should I suck it up for another 2 months without a graphics card and get a 2080 instead for an additional 250CAD? I do have a spare GTX950 for any immediate needs. Cheapest one I can find is a windforce for 960CAD. 

 

Edit: additionally, dont windforce cards whine a lot pretty quickly?

This might be a better choice than buying 2070

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10 hours ago, THraShArD said:

GTX 1080 vs RTX 2070 is only 8% difference.  Is this a joke ?  When I did my upgrade it was almost 500% difference

Yeah, happens when People trust in one Company and only buy from them, don't even consider the Alternatives.

 

Then the Company does baby steps.

 

10 hours ago, Casual Cube said:

Absolutely true, I ended up doing this. I had time to spare anyway. Turns out it does do good but is still priced at 700usd. Thats out of my budget.

and after my extensive research into the 2070, I think I'm good lol. Besides, wouldnt 1440p@144 be similar if not more demanding than 4k@60?

You might want to look into VEGA..

There are some good deals on VEGA right now...

 

I should have gotten the Power Color Red Dragon for 309€...

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11 hours ago, L1GHTNING said:

why you got on your signature RTX 2080ti 11GB if you upgraded to 2070? ?

GTX 1080<RTX 2070<GTX 1080ti

the only plus of 2070 over 1080ti its Ray tracing overall performance its to 1080ti

 

I upgraded from a Radeon R9 270x in Crossfire from April 2012.

 

It's way to much money to upgrade, unless you are selling your card for what you paid for.  Normally it's best to wait when you see close to 300% upgrade difference.  

 

Based on 300% you are better off just waiting for PCIE 4 stuff comes out.  

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9 hours ago, THraShArD said:

 

I upgraded from a Radeon R9 270x in Crossfire from April 2012.

 

It's way to much money to upgrade, unless you are selling your card for what you paid for.  Normally it's best to wait when you see close to 300% upgrade difference.  

 

Based on 300% you are better off just waiting for PCIE 4 stuff comes out.  

I actually upgraded from 950 to this 1080. I think I might wait in this case, unless I do sell my card for a really good price in which case I will replace with the next best I can buy with the money.

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I mean for $30 you'll get around 10-15% more performance and RTX stuff if you care about that. Not a bad deal if you ask me.

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2070 is slightly better than a 1080

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Can recommend the 2070’of MSI. Never has run a hair hotter than 69c. Under load at 1440p, highest settings everything enabled. On idle it sits around 29-31c. (At times it idles at 23-25c depending on ambient)

 

 You’ll have about 8-11% gains over an 1080 + you are able to use Ray tracing + DLSS down the line once more adopted. 

 

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