Budget gaming pc-advice needed

MrGreenLlama007 · January 16, 2019

Hello, out there ,

I'm trying to build a gaming pc on a 500 € (570 $) budget. [I'm from germany]

I'd like to use a geforce gtx 1050 ti, and a intel xeon E5-1620 v2, with the socket lga 2011, but I cant find a motherboard that isn't a chinese scam. By the way it'd be great if you guys could also give me advice for the psu, ram and fans.

Thanks in advance.

PS: if that cpu is rubbish I am willing to go for a different one, too.

mxk · January 16, 2019

Get the RX 570, it destroys the 1050 TI.

emosun · January 16, 2019

the cpu isnt too bad and it'll save you the hassle of buying ddr4

shop for just a single socket supermicro board for it

MrGreenLlama007 · January 16, 2019

2 minutes ago, mxk. said:

Get the RX 570, it destroys the 1050 TI.

Really? thanks didn't know that

Crunchy Dragon · January 16, 2019

For the PSU, you could probably get by with a Corsair CX550M.

iLostMyXbox21 · January 16, 2019

Just now, MrGreenLlama007 said:

Really? thanks didn't know that

How about something like this?

Spoiler

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$99.47 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$63.98 @ Newegg
Memory	Patriot - Signature Line 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory	$51.99 @ Amazon
Storage	TCSunBow - X3 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$28.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Video Card	$179.99 @ Newegg
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$49.99 @ B&H
Power Supply	Corsair - VS 450 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	$34.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$569.29
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-15 20:17 EST-0500

MrGreenLlama007 · January 16, 2019

1 hour ago, emosun said:

the cpu isnt too bad and it'll save you the hassle of buying ddr4
shop for just a single socket supermicro board for it

Ok, cool .

Should I rather use ebay or something else

1 hour ago, MrGreenLlama007 said:

Really? thanks didn't know that

1 hour ago, mxk. said:

Get the RX 570, it destroys the 1050 TI.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/MSI-AMD-Radeon-RX-570-4GB/392211289157?hash=item5b519d5445%3Ag%3Ap2MAAOSwBktcNaBt&LH_Auction=1

Is this good

mxk · January 16, 2019

1 hour ago, MrGreenLlama007 said:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/MSI-AMD-Radeon-RX-570-4GB/392211289157?hash=item5b519d5445%3Ag%3Ap2MAAOSwBktcNaBt&LH_Auction=1

Is this good

Just buy new. A lot of the used gpus are AMD ones from mining and the thought of buying mining cards doesn't personally appeal to me. It's safer to buy new either way.

MrGreenLlama007 · January 16, 2019

4 minutes ago, mxk. said:

Just buy new. A lot of the used gpus are AMD ones from mining and the thought of buying mining cards doesn't personally appeal to me. It's safer to buy new either way.

But mining cards and gaming cards are the same, aren't they?

Also its a budget build on a pretty tight budget so I think its better to get a cloth and give it a scrub.

What do you think?

mxk · January 16, 2019

2 hours ago, MrGreenLlama007 said:

But mining cards and gaming cards are the same, aren't they?

Also its a budget build on a pretty tight budget so I think its better to get a cloth and give it a scrub.

What do you think?

No, I meant that getting gaming cards that were used for mining can be risky. There's safe buyers, but its always a risk. The RX 570 and even the next card up, the rx 580, are both so cheap when brand new that they're within your budget.

You obviously know the risks of buying used stuff, but GPU's can be iffy.

mxk · January 16, 2019

This is my list, all new parts. If you want to get a used rx 570 or rx 580, go for it. Just be careful

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	€93.89 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€72.36 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	€58.89 @ Alternate
Storage	Kingston - A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	€21.29 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	€39.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card	XFX - Radeon RX 570 8 GB Black Edition Video Card	€167.31 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case	Rosewill - NAUTILUS ATX Mid Tower Case	€30.81 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	€59.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€544.53
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-16 06:25 CET+0100

MrGreenLlama007 · January 18, 2019

So after hours of research I think I have found moat of the parts , appart from a PSU. I need one that has two pcie power plugs and is 400w. Apart from that here are the results:

CPU : Amd ryzen 3 2200G

RAM: crucial ballistix 16 gb kit ddr4-2400

Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M

GPU: Radeon RX 580 8 gb GDDR Red devil Golden Sample

Fans: 3 Arctic rev 2.0 f12 pwm

(I know that the mobo has two case fan ports, one will be running full on)

Screen: Hanns g lcd hsg104122 22"

Everything tops up to about 381 €

(435$)

Im also going for a wooden case so I could do with tips for that.

If you see something that I could have done wrong please tell me.

Thanks for your help, everyone

Manderis · January 18, 2019

If you don't have to sacrifice to much of your budget try to get 300p MHz ram or above because ryzen loves fast ram

MrGreenLlama007 · January 18, 2019

Cant you overclock ram?

And also ryzen is picky bout ram and I checked if this is compatible and it was. But still im free for any kind of info so I might just try getting some faster ram

Manderis · January 19, 2019

Yes you can oc ram. Manually or with Intel xmp. Just dial in the max rated frequency of your ram and go for it. I would suggest to Google a tutorial or just look around on the forum here

MrGreenLlama007 · January 19, 2019

ok cool

can you give me a recommendation for a psu? Because I have very little experience with psus

Manderis · January 19, 2019

9 minutes ago, MrGreenLlama007 said:

ok cool

can you give me a recommendation for a psu? Because I have very little experience with psus

You can orientate yourself using the PSU Tier List

Depending on your lokal deals go Tier 3 and higher. Being on a budget try to stay around 50 €. 450 Watt is more than enough and leaves still room to upgrade.

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/LxGxKB
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/LxGxKB/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€93.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€76.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€107.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€41.30 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Phoenix Fan Video Card (€199.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€59.90 @ Caseking)
Total: €578.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-19 13:06 CET+0100

1060's have droped in price. You could go a cheaper PSU if you want (i know, more questions than answers). If you get a 580 you should get a 450 W with 2x PCIe 6+2 Power for it has a much higher TDP.

And maybe check out Geizhals.de, pcpp sometimes does not pick up the best pricing considering places like mindfactory offer free midnight shipping if you order between 0-6 am

MrGreenLlama007 · January 20, 2019

How about I get a 400 Watt be quiet! System Power 9 Non-Modular 80+ Bronze for my build.

it has two pcie power plugs

XxEpicFortniteFanxX · January 20, 2019

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$94.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$64.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$124.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Kingston - A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$24.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	XFX - Radeon RX 580 4 GB GTS XXX Edition Video Card	$179.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$39.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$609.83
	Mail-in rebates	-$35.00
	Total	$574.83
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-19 21:27 EST-0500

try this out the psu has 1non modular pcie and 1 modular

MrGreenLlama007 · January 22, 2019

So I did a bit more searching and here are the results

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor (€96.00) +7€ shipping

CPU Cooler: AMD - Wraith (comes with cpu)

Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€85.00) excluding shipping

Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€91.00) +5€ shipping

Storage: Seagate - I have one left over from an old laptop teardown

Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8 GB Gaming 8G Video Card (€83.00) +8,50 € Shipping

Power Supply: EVGA - 400 W ATX Power Supply

Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit (€10.00 @ rakuten)

3× Case Fan: ARCTIC - F12 PWM 53 CFM 120mm Fan (€21.00) excluding shipping

Total: 410.89€ + 28€ shipping

Please let me know if I did something wrong

PS : is rakuten legit for buying windows 10?

Manderis · January 22, 2019

Which EVGA PSU, some are great some are shitty? And throw in a small SSD for 50 $, Laptop HDD tend to be 5400 rpm and slow as hell. That would be money well spend. And you can get faster RAM (3000 MHz or more) for almost the same price and Ryzen loves fast RAM.

MrGreenLlama007 · January 22, 2019

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/86M323/evga-power-supply-100n10400l1 this is the link to the psu.

And the ram, im going with oc'ing it due to the fact that I have those sticks already and its not fun going through the pain again finding low cost ddr4 ram that is compatible with my mobo

MrGreenLlama007 · January 22, 2019

Also I got a spare fan kicking around in my workshop so o might as well mount it to the ram ( wih a bit of 3d printing)

Manderis · January 22, 2019

Try to get at least a bronze plus psu, maybe even gold if you can find one

Maybe that one

https://geizhals.de/be-quiet-system-power-9-400w-atx-2-4-bn245-a1765560.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&v=e

MrGreenLlama007 · January 22, 2019

Yeah I saw that one too but they didn't have it on pcpartpicker.com

So I went with the other one

Should I go for that be quiet! PSU?

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