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I'm planning a i9-9900k build and I've been having a hard time deciding on what MoBo I should get. I will be pushing that i9 to 5.1GHz.

 

I've been looking at 3 motherboards.

Asus maximums XI hero z390

Gigabyte Aorus master z390

MSI meg ace z390

 

All of theese are in my price range of 200-300 USD

But I need help to choose which one, as I said, I will be overclocking and I heard that the Asus MoBo has weaker vrm than the other two?

So which one do you guys think is best? 

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The Aorus Master is the obvious choice since it has the best VRM and power solution and the best BIOS support (people dislike a bit the Gigabyte BIOS because of the kinda oldish style UI however in stability terms it's one of the best in the market).

 

The worse and most overpriced one of the bunch is the Hero XI which actually features entry level z370 VRM and power phases solution.

 

ASUS No longer does high quality components, they are living off their brand name and marketing nowadays, with what is the most overpriced products currently.

 

MSi Meg Ace is usable but considering the Aorus Master is an option like I said it becomes obvious... that's where the most value is located at.

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MSI has a few Mobo's man that are probably ok. 

 

Something there or turn to the EVGA.

2600x 4.3ghz-Loop

Msi X470 gaming plus

EVGA SuperSC CL16 3200 16gb

gtx 1060

pny nvme 480gb

mushkin eco3 480gb

Sound Blaster Audigy FX

Cooler Master GXII Pro 750w.

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I was in the same situation, did a tonne of research, and I ended up picking the Aorus Master, that is what I think is best. The pros like the VRM and many features outweighed any of the cons I read about such as the bios (which isn't that bad).

 

And so far, I haven't had any regrets. 

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Yes the Asus board has the worst VRM thermals, so even more problems to deal with after solving the 9900k issue (like you cant push 1.4V to it like you do on 8700k, the temperature will shoot through Tjmax easily).

 

In terms of VRM thermals then the Aorus Master beats the other 2, since the MSI Ace board is roughly 80% as good. That said MSI board overclocks memory better (past 4266, Gigabyte struggles but MSI doesnt).

11 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

the Hero XI which actually features entry level z370 VRM and power phases solution.

SiC639 is a high end part, Asus just didn't use enough of them

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

SiC639 is a high end part, Asus just didn't use enough of them

I said their solution was entry level not the component used. ;)

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CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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12 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I said their solution was entry level not the component used. ;)

By entry level solution they could have used the Z390-H's 4C09B and 4C06B, thankfully they stopped doing that.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Thanks guys, I think I'll end up getting the Gigabyte board. I don't mind so much about it having worse memory ocing than the msi since I'll be running 3200mhz anyway. :)

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7 hours ago, Hello123321 said:

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there are users of the hero and the ace already switching boards LOL, obviously those are the picky users, but there are problems with the vrm temps. AFAIK the only problem with master is the audio getting interference and needs a restart, that also happens on the taichi so maybe the 9900k's just too power hungry ?

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9 hours ago, xg32 said:

there are users of the hero and the ace already switching boards LOL, obviously those are the picky users, but there are problems with the vrm temps. AFAIK the only problem with master is the audio getting interference and needs a restart, that also happens on the taichi so maybe the 9900k's just too power hungry ?

I'll be running a soundcard so hopefully I'll be fine :D

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EVGA is supposed to be launching their Z390 DARK board soon. Potentially at CES. Their FTW board is $229 though, I don't know how much the DARK might be considering it has an insane VRM solution and 17 power phases but I bet it will do quite well with overclocking.

 

https://www.evga.com/articles/01260/evga-z390-motherboard/

 

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1 hour ago, Jackson said:

EVGA is supposed to be launching their Z390 DARK board soon. Potentially at CES. Their FTW board is $229 though, I don't know how much the DARK might be considering it has an insane VRM solution and 17 power phases but I bet it will do quite well with overclocking.

 

https://www.evga.com/articles/01260/evga-z390-motherboard/

 

sounds very promising, I will check it out when it launches and gets some reviews on YouTube, thanks :)

On the other hand, I think I'll still go with the Aorus board mainly because I don't have the cooling to go further than possibly 5.2ghz and also I don't think I need that much power :D

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