What CPU should I buy?

[Gingerlion]

So I recently upgraded my grahpics card from a Gigabyte r9 270 2gb to a Gigabyte RX 580 8gb gaming.

My current CPU is an  intel core I5 6400, I have been experiencing pretty severe bottlenecks where my CPU is at 99% and my GPU at 40% with 25 - 50 fps and stuttering in Call Of Duty Black ops III at medium settings.

So to fix this I want to buy a new CPU because the one I have now can't keep up. What CPU should I buy? My budget is around 300 euro's (340 dollars) 

I've had my eye on an I7 6700k, would this be a good option? Does anyone have any suggestions? Any other fixes that might ease the bottleneck?

 

-GingerLion

[r2724r16]

3 minutes ago, Gingerlion said:

I've had my eye on an I7 6700k, would this be a good option? Does anyone have any suggestions? Any other fixes that might ease the bottleneck?

The i7 6700K and RX 580 8GB make a good pair. But even an i7 6700 is fine, if you can find those for cheaper. 

[Fasauceome]

Are you checking out eBay? It's a bad buy to get one of these new instead of used.

[Jurrunio]

what board are you using?

[TrigrH]

18 minutes ago, campy said:

6700k would be a good option though even used theyre like 220-240$ on average, blame intel for releasing the same quadcore i7 for 4 generations, but a good alternative

Which 4 generations?

 

[DeleteAccountUnused]

With that budget the I7 6700k!

[TrigrH]

41 minutes ago, campy said:

Basically Haswell, Broadwell, Skylake and Kaby Lake

 Haswell and Broadwell are very different to skylake onwards. 6th - 9th gen its all the same tho.

[TrigrH]

1 hour ago, campy said:

different in architecture, not very different in real world performance

a 4790k is gonna give you about the same performance in most games as a 7700k

Obviously (and as this guy notes at the end) this is just gaming, more CPU maxing sort of tasks like video editing are going to see substantial gains over newer generations of processors. But there was basically no performance change for the everyday consumer/gamer, who these things were marketed to, over the course of 2 and a half years.

Even the 4770k isnt a big jump down from the 4790k either, and the 3770k isnt a large jump from there.

On paper, as in most synthetic benchmarks, the 4790k to the 7700k is this big 15-20% boost in overall performance, but its really just about the same overall.

And if youre doing workstation tasks and need cpu performance, going from haswell to kaby lake was a huge waste of money for those people if they bought a consumer processor, because even in those CPU taxing workloads, buying a haswell/broadwell xeon wouldve been a better option than a kaby lake i7.

1440p ultra is GPU bound benchmarking lol.

[Gingerlion]

14 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

what board are you using?

I'll just list some of my specs to make it a bit easier

- ga-b150-hd3p Motherboard

- Gigabyte RX 580 8gb gaming Graphics Card

- Intel core i5 6400 CPU

- 8gb of Ballistix ddr4 sport LT 2400 CL16 (2x 4gb dual channeled)

- 500 WAT power supply 

I could look for another motherboard with an amd4 socket for maybe an r7 2700x or something like that

 

[Jurrunio]

36 minutes ago, Gingerlion said:

I'll just list some of my specs to make it a bit easier

- ga-b150-hd3p Motherboard

- Gigabyte RX 580 8gb gaming Graphics Card

- Intel core i5 6400 CPU

- 8gb of Ballistix ddr4 sport LT 2400 CL16 (2x 4gb dual channeled)

- 500 WAT power supply 

I could look for another motherboard with an amd4 socket for maybe an r7 2700x or something like that

 

you can't overclock the i7 on that board, so the obvious choice is to get Ryzen. For games though the 2600 is already enough to hit the RX 580's limit in pretty much all games

[Gingerlion]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

you can't overclock the i7 on that board, so the obvious choice is to get Ryzen. For games though the 2600 is already enough to hit the RX 580's limit in pretty much all games

Hmmm ok so my best option would be buying a new motherboard with right socket, and buy a Ryzen 5 2600? My budget rises a little higher than that, would a 2600x give better results or about the same, not only targeting gaming?

 

[Gingerlion]

9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

you can't overclock the i7 on that board, so the obvious choice is to get Ryzen. For games though the 2600 is already enough to hit the RX 580's limit in pretty much all games

I've found a motherboard that should be compatible

B350 Tomahawk

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B350-TOMAHAWK/Specification

[Jurrunio]

18 minutes ago, Gingerlion said:

Hmmm ok so my best option would be buying a new motherboard with right socket, and buy a Ryzen 5 2600? My budget rises a little higher than that, would a 2600x give better results or about the same, not only targeting gaming?

 

buy a better board then, 2600 and 2600X are both user-overclockable and aren't binned at all. 

13 minutes ago, Gingerlion said:

I've found a motherboard that should be compatible

B350 Tomahawk

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B350-TOMAHAWK/Specification

MSI's B350 and X370 boards are terrible. How much can you spend on a board? Does US prices apply?

[Gingerlion]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

buy a better board then, 2600 and 2600X are both user-overclockable and aren't binned at all. 

MSI's B350 and X370 boards are terrible. How much can you spend on a board? Does US prices apply?

With the 2600 about 100 - 150 euro's or about 110 -170 dollar

I'm a european from the Netherlands so prices may be a little different from the US

[Gingerlion]

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

buy a better board then, 2600 and 2600X are both user-overclockable and aren't binned at all. 

MSI's B350 and X370 boards are terrible. How much can you spend on a board? Does US prices apply?

Best would be a board of about 100 dollars but if you find a better board for a little more I would be willing to pay more for a better one

[Jurrunio]

28 minutes ago, Gingerlion said:

Best would be a board of about 100 dollars but if you find a better board for a little more I would be willing to pay more for a better one

ok so throwing out a list is better? The lower the better:

 

Asrock Pro4 (all of them), B chipset K4,

Asrock X chipset K4, Master SLI, Asus B350-F, B450-F, B450-E, TUF B450 Pro, Gigabyte X470 Gaming 5, Ultra Gaming, MSI B450M Bazooka, Pro-VDH

Asus X370-Pro, X470-Pro

Gigabyte X370 Gaming 5/K7, MSI B450-A Pro, Gaming Plus, Tomahawk, Carbon, X470 Gaming Plus 

 

I don't think better boards will ever come down to that price, so that's it.

[Gingerlion]

43 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

ok so throwing out a list is better? The lower the better:

 

Asrock Pro4 (all of them), B chipset K4,

Asrock X chipset K4, Master SLI, Asus B350-F, B450-F, B450-E, TUF B450 Pro, Gigabyte X470 Gaming 5, Ultra Gaming, MSI B450M Bazooka, Pro-VDH

Asus X370-Pro, X470-Pro

Gigabyte X370 Gaming 5/K7, MSI B450-A Pro, Gaming Plus, Tomahawk, Carbon, X470 Gaming Plus 

 

I don't think better boards will ever come down to that price, so that's it.

Ok, i've gone through all of the list, I choose 6 that really caught my eye, I compared all of those to eachother and found that the MSI B450-A PRO was the one with the cheapest price and with the right features. So this board would pair good with my Graphics card and CPU? Or is there some kind of problem that my CPU can't overclock on this board or something? And I cannot thank you enough for making that list and helping me finding all this stuff, i'm kinda new to PC building so thanks for all the info.

[Jurrunio]

40 minutes ago, Gingerlion said:

So this board would pair good with my Graphics card and CPU?

yes

 

40 minutes ago, Gingerlion said:

the right features.

no RGB header is the only downfall for this board as far as I can see

 

40 minutes ago, Gingerlion said:

Or is there some kind of problem that my CPU can't overclock on this board or something?

Those boards won't be listed  You can even use a 2nd gen Ryzen 7 on this board, just with a conservative overclock say 3.8ghz.

 

If you want to prepare for a lot more cores (say 10-12 cores), then up a grade there's the Asrock Taichi boards, Asus X370-F, X470-F and MSI X470 Carbon.

[Gingerlion]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

yes

 

no RGB header is the only downfall for this board as far as I can see

 

Those boards won't be listed  You can even use a 2nd gen Ryzen 7 on this board, just with a conservative overclock say 3.8ghz.

 

If you want to prepare for a lot more cores (say 10-12 cores), then up a grade there's the Asrock Taichi boards, Asus X370-F, X470-F and MSI X470 Carbon.

I just really want to thank you for all the help you've given me, I know some basic things and how to build one but i'm not a computer expert so the help has been really useful!