BCLK 200 by default

[Snifferdog3]

So currently i have a phenom II X4 965 BE. but i was doing some overclocking and noticed the default BCLK is 200 x17 = 3400. i read on google that the default BCLK is 100! i even reset my bios and it defaults to 200. is this just something to do with my mobo or chip? mysteriously one of my HDD died a few days after overclocking too, and as ive read if the BCLK is too high it can kill other components? should i change it to 100? thanks!

[manikyath]

taking a wild sweeping statement here.. pretty much any system made in the last 20 years, if you just double the bclk it simply wont run, at all. even if the cpu doesnt wonk out pretty much everything else will wonk out.

[Windows7ge]

The number depends on the platform you're on. Most platforms today use 200. I don't know the specifics beyond that.

 

As to if it will break anything. No, unless you consider the BSOD breaking. Now extreme over-volting + insufficient cooling can kill hardware.

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, manikyath said:

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Intel added a micro-code to the Intel Management Engine which is hardware level on every CPU from Kaby-Lake era upwards that prevents booting if your BCLK is above 103mhz.

 

Previous gen actually still works depending on the BIOS of your motherboard, Skylake was a gold era for BCLK overclock, BLCK stopped influencing every thing down to only Memory and CPU base clock, and it was unlocked so ton of people bought the i5 6400 and i7 6700 for cheaper and end up with identical overclocks as people with the 6600K and 6700K.

 

Intel obviously got upset at this and did that micro code update mentioned on Kaby Lake killing the possibility.

 

Another reason why I personally wish AMD 7nm to be a success so I never buy another Intel product, this nonsense of asking a premium for the right to overclock when all their CPUs can actually be overclocked is such a bullshit.

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

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two things i wanna note here..

- this has nothing to do with my statement of the stability of going bclk x2

- in some way it makes sense for only the "top models in your product stack" to feature overclocking, i'd state the issue you're complaining about is one of overall product stack management, not of limiting which chips have which features.

(not a topic for this thread, refer to the recent LTT video about HEDT being terrible for more of a tastytaste)

[Princess Luna]

13 minutes ago, manikyath said:

this has nothing to do with my statement of the stability of going bclk x2

only that it does as it was an informative addend to what yourself wrote right here:

22 minutes ago, manikyath said:

pretty much any system made in the last 20 years, if you just double the bclk it simply wont run, at all.

Which may I point out is incorrect as people had 350~400BCLK to do those skylake overclocks.

13 minutes ago, manikyath said:

- in some way it makes sense for only the "top models in your product stack" to feature overclocking,

AMD has unlocked processors across the board when Intel before artifically locking it had as well meaning that no it does not make sense aside earn extra bucks for the right.

 

13 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i'd state the issue you're complaining about is one of overall product stack management, not of limiting which chips have which features.

Not personally complaining but stating how things are about BCLK nowadays which is still in line with the thread given your original response was also broad.

 

13 minutes ago, manikyath said:

(not a topic for this thread, refer to the recent LTT video about HEDT being terrible for more of a tastytaste)

Again you have made it a topic which I in good intention discussed about, I had no idea you'd actually go this way so I suppose I'm sorry for replying you out of in good faith and I'll keep that in mind not to bother you on newer threads.

[Raudi_]

42 minutes ago, Snifferdog3 said:

So currently i have a phenom II X4 965 BE. but i was doing some overclocking and noticed the default BCLK is 200 x17 = 3400. i read on google that the default BCLK is 100! i even reset my bios and it defaults to 200. is this just something to do with my mobo or chip? mysteriously one of my HDD died a few days after overclocking too, and as ive read if the BCLK is too high it can kill other components? should i change it to 100? thanks!

This is fine, as the Phenom II x4 and FX line ran on a 200Mhz reference clock speed.

[Snifferdog3]

45 minutes ago, KingCry said:

This is fine, as the Phenom II x4 and FX line ran on a 200Mhz reference clock speed.

That's cool then. Just was browsing the internet and saw that the default bclk usally is 100. As long as it's nothing out of the ordinary I'm happy! Thanks 

[Snifferdog3]

One last question. Do you think that overclocking it from 3.4 to 3.8ghz (not touching the bclk) killed my HDD? I DOUBT it but it very odd how it was literally a few days after ocing that it broke. I'm currently not overclocked as I just brought a new ssd for £60 and don't want to break it!