Should I put this much faith in Mantle?

[Citizen#42]

I'm building a new rig and wanted to know if this makes sense and will there be any major bottle necks or compatibility issues...

 

MoBo- ASUS M5A99FX PRO

RAM- Corsair Vengeance 1x8GB

PSU- Corsair AX860

 

GPU- two 290x in crossfire

Can't choose between SAPPHIRE TRI-X OC or GIGABYTE WINDFORCE is it just down to aesthetics?

 

CPU-AMD FX-8350

From what I understand Mantle will allow me to use high end GPUs with a mid-range CPU and not have a bottle neck? Does that make sense or have I been lead astray?

I don't plan to overclock at first because I'm going to use the rig for mining 24/7 for the next couple of months. Later on when I'll use it for gaming I plan on overclocking and using a Corsair H80i.

 

Case- Thermaltake Chaser MK-1

With two 290x s I'm wondering if I should even bother with a case?

 

Thanks in advance.

[Unhelpful]

Maybe. Mantle is a massive-unknown. The only numbers are the ones AMD has given and guessed. I'm hopeful though. Also I dont necessarily agree with dual 290x's. The performance difference between 290x and 290 isnt very large.

[TheSLSAMG]

Of course you should bother with a case.

 

Eh, I wouldn't put that much hope into it. Do a slight CPU boost, say i7 4770K, and I would think that this rig would be perfectly balanced.

[OBEYSQUIRREL]

I'd get dual channel ram

[Andrew0472]

i'd wait for 290 aftermarket coolers because the 290x is a lot more expensive for not much more performance (unless prices are different in your location)

[Alphabloom]

I'm building a new rig and wanted to know if this makes sense and will there be any major bottle necks or compatibility issues...

 

MoBo- ASUS M5A99FX PRO

RAM- Corsair Vengeance 1x8GB

PSU- Corsair AX860

 

GPU- two 290x in crossfire

Can't choose between SAPPHIRE TRI-X OC or GIGABYTE WINDFORCE is it just down to aesthetics?

 

CPU-AMD FX-8350

From what I understand Mantle will allow me to use high end GPUs with a mid-range CPU and not have a bottle neck? Does that make sense or have I been lead astray?

I don't plan to overclock at first because I'm going to use the rig for mining 24/7 for the next couple of months. Later on when I'll use it for gaming I plan on overclocking and using a Corsair H80i.

 

Case- Thermaltake Chaser MK-1

With two 290x s I'm wondering if I should even bother with a case?

 

Thanks in advance.

from what I have read the windforce cards run at around 85c at load due to low fan speeds to keep noise levels down, whilst the TriX is a lot more aggressive in terms of sound profile, but both are pretty much the same 

[WunderWuffle]

With two 290x s I'm wondering if I should even bother with a case?

 

Thanks in advance.

I wouldn't want anything to hit my graphics cards and break the PCI-E connector and render the video cards useless, so yeah... Buy a case.

[joelthezombie15]

yes get a case and a 8350 will be fine with 2 290x's but i would wait to see what mantle is like before you get your hopes up. 

[piplupgao]

In your case you will have a beast rig with almost no bottleneck regardless of mantle.

[Eddyall]

Don't put faith in something that has never been seen by the public.

[paulsterio]

The thing is, it's not like you're investing in Mantle, if you were never considering nVidia in the first place then it's never like Mantle made any sort of bearing on your decision. 

[StormtrooperStu]

Patience sir.  Wait until things are proven.

[f22luke]

Of course you should bother with a case.

 

Eh, I wouldn't put that much hope into it. Do a slight CPU boost, say i7 4770K, and I would think that this rig would be perfectly balanced.

Come on the 8350 is just fine for gaming.  AMD and several game devs have showcased mantle with 8350s down clocked and it's still GPU bound so one thing we know for sure is that Mantle takes work away from the CPU.

 

Given that they both have bios switches if the card is too loud just flip the switch or adjust the fan profile.   I would say get the card you like the best from the company you like the best.  Is there a reason why you aren't looking at MSI?

 

Get a case with good airflow.  Protect your investment.

 

Also didn't see a power supply what are you planning on using?

[GamerDude]

An FX8350 would be sufficient for modern games, no need to look at Intel Haswell. I have an FX8350 + 2x GTX670 and I don't believe there's a CPU bottleneck, and ll this concern over CPU bottleneck is moot as long as framerate is good enough for smooth gameplay. I'd admit this though, for benchmark enthusiasts, the FX8/9 series cannot compete with Intel's offerings.

[brob]

"Should I put this much faith in Mantle?"

 

No.

[spandy34]

Let the numbers talk. I'm a nvidia fanboy and I really hope it good. Industry needs to be pushed a little

[Arun46682]

http://ow.ly/sqTG5 Just see this benchmarks u'll probably get idea Mantle : Let the numbers come out. 

[Citizen#42]

The thing is, it's not like you're investing in Mantle, if you were never considering nVidia in the first place then it's never like Mantle made any sort of bearing on your decision. 

I didn't mean it like that. I heard Mantle will allow you to use high end GPUs with a mid-range CPU and not have a bottle neck and was asking weather it would make a difference in my case (two 290x's with a FX-8350) or should I upgrade my CPU.

 

Come on the 8350 is just fine for gaming.  AMD and several game devs have showcased mantle with 8350s down clocked and it's still GPU bound so one thing we know for sure is that Mantle takes work away from the CPU.

 

Given that they both have bios switches if the card is too loud just flip the switch or adjust the fan profile.   I would say get the card you like the best from the company you like the best.  Is there a reason why you aren't looking at MSI?

 

Get a case with good airflow.  Protect your investment.

 

Also didn't see a power supply what are you planning on using?

I want the card that will run the coolest. That is why I'm going with the sapphire. I really couldn't find any MSI benchmarks can you link me to one? PSU is a Corsair AX860.

 

http://ow.ly/sqTG5 Just see this benchmarks u'll probably get idea Mantle : Let the numbers come out. 

Thanks that actually really helped. I was going to get the Windforce but this changed my mind.

 

 

Thanks everyone really helpful stuff.

[paulsterio]

I didn't mean it like that. I heard Mantle will allow you to use high end GPUs with a mid-range CPU and not have a bottle neck and was asking weather it would make a difference in my case (two 290x's with a FX-8350) or should I upgrade my CPU.

 

Mantle is still really sketchy at this stage, but either way a 8350 is a potent chip which is not really bottlenecking your two 290Xs, even if you upgrade to something like a 4930K, you won't see much of a tangible performance difference, so there's probably not too much to worry about. 

[SkilledRebuilds]

Even if you upgrade your CPU, and your Minfps rises, your average will most likely stay the same.

[Eddyall]

I didn't mean it like that. I heard Mantle will allow you to use high end GPUs with a mid-range CPU and not have a bottle neck and was asking weather it would make a difference in my case (two 290x's with a FX-8350) or should I upgrade my CPU.

 

I want the card that will run the coolest. That is why I'm going with the sapphire. I really couldn't find any MSI benchmarks can you link me to one? PSU is a Corsair AX860.

 

Thanks that actually really helped. I was going to get the Windforce but this changed my mind.

 

 

Thanks everyone really helpful stuff.

 

Also you know that Mantle will not be in every AAA game right?

You'll still need a decent CPU/GPU if you want to play say the Witcher 3.

[f22luke]

Also you know that Mantle will not be in every AAA game right?

You'll still need a decent CPU/GPU if you want to play say the Witcher 3.

Your right it won't be on all AAA games.  My point there was they halfed the clock speed with mantle and it still was to much CPU.  If you are going to say that the 8350 isn't a decent card at stock clocks don't.

[MangoJuiceStain]

Go for 2x4GB sticks for ram. Dual channels are always better than one.

[Citizen#42]

Go for 2x4GB sticks for ram. Dual channels are always better than one.

My plan was to use it for mining in the beginning, when I start gaming I'll add another stick.

[Citizen#42]

I know I'm probably getting really annoying by now but I'm going to make another gaming PC for someone can you guys check it out?

 

MoBo- MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ or Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+

Can someone explain the benefits of one over the other?

 

RAM- Corsair Vengeance 1x8GB

(Planning on adding a stick down the road.)

 

PSU- Corsair AX760

 

GPU- MSI 290x non-reference

 

CPU-AMD AMD FX-8320

 

Case-Corsair Obsidian Series 750D

 

Thank! I really appreciate it!