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2 minutes ago, rasfsfsd said:

alright, thank you for your help. i will keep that build list and go looking for monitors to determine which gpu im going to get and your sure i wont get better performance out of a intel cpu

Intel CPU to beat 2700x requires at least an 8700k, which costs more.

1 hour ago, mxk. said:

I'm referring more to vega 64, vega 56 makes amd way better for that card choice.

That's why I didnt mention Vega 64. Only useful for those needing a GPU for computing at the same time.

 

this is my current build for gaming, streaming and video editing on the adobe suite mostly. does anyone have any suggestion on any parts that could be swapped out to improve performance. also i need suggestion for a wireless card or usb if the motherboard doesn't support wireless connectivity. there is no case as i have already got that

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Just now, _d0nut said:

Are you planning on overclocking the CPU?

maybe far down the track, if i need the extra performance

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5 minutes ago, rasfsfsd said:

maybe far down the track, if i need the extra performance

You could probably save on the cooler then. Also, I'd suggest a larger capacity SSD that is SATA since the high speeds of NVME only gives you a large difference compared to SATA in moving large files. Boot times are around few seconds faster on NVME so I'd much rather have the larger capacity.

What about the case? Are you going to reuse an old one? If so, make sure it has good airflow and supports your motherboard form factor

 

 

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2 minutes ago, rasfsfsd said:

maybe far down the track, if i need the extra performance

Then pick a better motherboard. I've seen that the VRM on the board you picked are not very good for overclocking and its better to have something now than change motherboards in the future.

 

If you can afford it, get faster ram since ryzen benefits from faster ram.

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1 minute ago, _d0nut said:

You could probably save on the cooler then. Also, I'd suggest a larger capacity SSD that is SATA since the high speeds of NVME only gives you a large difference compared to SATA in moving large files. Boot times are around few seconds faster on NVME so I'd much rather have the larger capacity.

What about the case? Are you going to reuse an old one? If so, make sure it has good airflow and supports your motherboard form factor

 

hes from Australia so these prices aren't accurate

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Just now, mxk. said:

Then pick a better motherboard. I've seen that the VRM on the board you picked are not very good for overclocking and its better to have something now than change motherboards in the future.

 

If you can afford it, get faster ram since ryzen benefits from faster ram.

anything above 3200 is not worth it due to high price imo. 3000 and 3200 are perfect for ryzen

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Just now, mxk. said:

hes from Australia so these prices aren't accurate

Yeah, I linked the wrong build. My bad

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2 minutes ago, _d0nut said:

You could probably save on the cooler then. Also, I'd suggest a larger capacity SSD that is SATA since the high speeds of NVME only gives you a large difference compared to SATA in moving large files. Boot times are around few seconds faster on NVME so I'd much rather have the larger capacity.

What about the case? Are you going to reuse an old one? If so, make sure it has good airflow and supports your motherboard form factor

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LTnqXP

im using a case that i was given 

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37350/phanteks-enthoo-luxe-tempered-glass-window-black

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2 minutes ago, _d0nut said:

anything above 3200 is not worth it due to high price imo. 3000 and 3200 are perfect for ryzen

I mean if you have the budget then its worth it but the OP already has 3000mhz which is good. Try seeing if you can overclock the ram.

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Despite the 'ULTRA' in its name, the Gigabyte X470 Ultra Gaming's VRM is too weak to be recommended for an 8 core CPU.

 

If you want to save cost and don't mind getting AMD's bootkit (possibly) to update the BIOS for 2nd gen Ryzen support, get the $150 AUD Asrock X370 Taichi. Otherwise, the $230 AUD Asus X370 Crosshair VI Extreme is as good as a motherboard needs to be (Still cheaper than the Ultra Gaming :P)

 

The Crosshair VI has BIOS flashback, so it doesnt need a CPU to update the BIOS. This means you wont need a bootkit or older AM4 CPU to do that.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, rasfsfsd said:

https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0143UM4TC/?tag=pcppau-22

these are the same price as the ones i have in my build

Stick with the 3000mhz ram since you have it and try to overclock it if you want a small performance bump. Don't buy new ram since its expensive to get an extra 200mhz

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seasonic 620w dogballs psu

 

 

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Despite the 'ULTRA' in its name, the Gigabyte X470 Ultra Gaming's VRM is too weak to be recommended for an 8 core CPU.

 

If you want to save cost and don't mind getting AMD's bootkit (possibly) to update the BIOS for 2nd gen Ryzen support, get the $150 AUD Asrock X370 Taichi. Otherwise, the $230 AUD Asus X370 Crosshair VI Extreme is as good as a motherboard needs to be (Still cheaper than the Ultra Gaming :P)

 

The Crosshair VI has BIOS flashback, so it doesnt need a CPU to update the BIOS. This means you wont need a bootkit or older AM4 CPU to do that.

Asus X370 Crosshair VI Extreme- does this board support wireless connectivety as im not close enough to my modem to be wired. also im not sure what you mean by the boost kits and all that, is there much of a difference between the two boards you talked about

 

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2 minutes ago, mxk. said:

Stick with the 3000mhz ram since you have it and try to overclock it if you want a small performance bump. Don't buy new ram since its expensive to get an extra 200mhz

well the case is the only part i have a the moment so it want cost any more

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A motherboard that has WiFi. A less expensive but excellent cpu cooler. More NVMe storage.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($464.10 @ Amazon Australia) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS GAMING 5 WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($299.00 @ Umart) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($200.68 @ Amazon Australia) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($139.00 @ BudgetPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($82.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card  ($639.00 @ Umart) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($159.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $2101.78
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-28 15:19 AEDT+1100

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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7 minutes ago, rasfsfsd said:

does this board support wireless connectivety as im not close enough to my modem to be wired

yes it does

 

7 minutes ago, rasfsfsd said:

also im not sure what you mean by the boost kits and all tha

B350 and X370 boards could carry old BIOSes that need to be updated in order to support 2nd gen Ryzen including the 2700X. A bootkit is just AMD handing out old AM4 CPUs for boards that need a compatible CPU to update the BIOS to do just that, then let the customer slot in the 2nd gen (or even newer ones in the future) Ryzen into their B350 or X370 motherboards.

 

However, boards with BIOS flashback including the Crosshair VI doesnt need a compatible CPU to update the BIOS, which means you don't need a bootkit for this board.

 

7 minutes ago, rasfsfsd said:

is there much of a difference between the two boards you talked about

If Ultra Gaming is a clown in overclocking, then Taichi is talented in overclocking, while Crosshair VI Extreme is the god in overclocking.

 

also I don't argue with prices

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 minutes ago, rasfsfsd said:

well the case is the only part i have a the moment so it want cost any more

get the faster ram then. Also, like @Jurrunio said, get a different motherboard!

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aorus pro z390

noctua nh-d15s chromax w black cover

evga 3070 ultra

samsung 128gb, adata swordfish 1tb, wd blue 1tb

seasonic 620w dogballs psu

 

 

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17 minutes ago, mxk. said:

get the faster ram then. Also, like @Jurrunio said, get a different motherboard!

 

18 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

yes it does

 

B350 and X370 boards could carry old BIOSes that need to be updated in order to support 2nd gen Ryzen including the 2700X. A bootkit is just AMD handing out old AM4 CPUs for boards that need a compatible CPU to update the BIOS to do just that, then let the customer slot in the 2nd gen (or even newer ones in the future) Ryzen into their B350 or X370 motherboards.

 

However, boards with BIOS flashback including the Crosshair VI doesnt need a compatible CPU to update the BIOS, which means you don't need a bootkit for this board.

 

If Ultra Gaming is a clown in overclocking, then Taichi is talented in overclocking, while Crosshair VI Extreme is the god in overclocking.

 

also I don't argue with prices

alright i will make those changes now. also would i need a g-sync monitor if i wanted to go with 144hz monitor or would a free sync work with a 1070 or 1080

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6 minutes ago, rasfsfsd said:

 

alright i will make those changes now. also would i need a g-sync monitor if i wanted to go with 144hz monitor or would a free sync work with a 1070 or 1080

If you care about adaptive sync, you should get an AMD Vega 56 instead (custom card, for example Strix version cost $600). At similar prices to a 1070ti (and performance), you get to use $100 cheaper Freesync displays while Nvidia cards force you to stay with Gsync displays. Apart from different supported GPU for adaptive sync function, the monitors are identical.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, rasfsfsd said:

 

alright i will make those changes now. also would i need a g-sync monitor if i wanted to go with 144hz monitor or would a free sync work with a 1070 or 1080

g sync only works with nvidia cards

 

freesync only works with amd cards

 

You don't need either of these things to have a 144hz monitor. Keep in mind g-sync is really expensive and freesync is cheaper, but g-sync is a tiny bit better. The top-tier AMD cards are kinda overpriced for whatever reason AMD decided to do that, but I mean you probably won't notice any screen tearing or stuttering without free/g sync if you're getting consistent FPS or consistent FPS above the 144 fps mark.

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aorus pro z390

noctua nh-d15s chromax w black cover

evga 3070 ultra

samsung 128gb, adata swordfish 1tb, wd blue 1tb

seasonic 620w dogballs psu

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

If you care about adaptive sync, you should get an AMD Vega 56 instead (custom card, for example Strix version cost $600). At similar prices to a 1070ti (and performance), you get to use $100 cheaper Freesync displays while Nvidia cards force you to stay with Gsync displays. Apart from different supported GPU for adaptive sync function, the monitors are identical.

speaking of all of this, do you know of a way someone like me can use freesync with a 1070ti despite not being able to use a APU? Or is the APU method it

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noctua nh-d15s chromax w black cover

evga 3070 ultra

samsung 128gb, adata swordfish 1tb, wd blue 1tb

seasonic 620w dogballs psu

 

 

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1 minute ago, mxk. said:

g sync only works with nvidia cards

 

freesync only works with amd cards

 

You don't need either of these things to have a 144hz monitor. Keep in mind g-sync is really expensive and freesync is cheaper, but g-sync is a tiny bit better. The top-tier AMD cards are kinda overpriced for whatever reason AMD decided to do that, but I mean you probably won't notice any screen tearing or stuttering without free/g sync if you're getting consistent FPS or consistent FPS above the 144 fps mark.

 

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

If you care about adaptive sync, you should get an AMD Vega 56 instead (custom card, for example Strix version cost $600). At similar prices to a 1070ti (and performance), you get to use $100 cheaper Freesync displays while Nvidia cards force you to stay with Gsync displays. Apart from different supported GPU for adaptive sync function, the monitors are identical.

alright then, i might just go look at regular monitors then

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