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1 minute ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

And what other Z370 board offers a better value than the Prime-A at $160?

But what about the Prime P,  what is better about the Prime A

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3 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

And what other Z370 board offers a better value than the Prime-A at $160?

currently the Asrock Z370 Extreme4 is on sale at $110....

 

@Mad153 the Prime-P only has half the VRM potential. Good enough for 8350k, won't even bother with an 8600k myself.

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1 minute ago, Mad153 said:

But what about the Prime P,  what is better about the Prime A

Just now, Jurrunio said:

currently the Asrock Z370 Extreme4 is on sale at $110....

Fair enough right now, but most of the time it's the same price

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

currently the Asrock Z370 Extreme4 is on sale at $110....

 

@Mad153 the Prime-P only has half the VRM potential. Good enough for 8350k, won't even bother with an 8600k myself.

Only have non K 8600

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2 minutes ago, andyme said:

 getting an i7 much better for gaming

Let's not get into that argument

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So, prime-p or prime-a for non K CPU?

And why?

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3 hours ago, Mad153 said:

Thanks.

Any good ones sub £140 / around $180 with 7+ USB ports?

7+ USB ports on the motherboard itself or does the 7+ include the ones on the case (so if your case got 2 or 4 ports then you want 3 to 5+ ports on the back of the motherboard?)

If 5 or 6 USB ports on the back of the motherboard is ok, there's some Z390 options, mainly from ASRock & MSI, the 8600 should work on Z390 & would allow you to upgrade in the future to a 9600k, 9700k or 9900k without a BIOS update.

Here's a MSI MAG Z390 Tomahawk on sale for £10 off at £139.99: https://www.box.co.uk/MSI-MAG-Z390-TOMAHAWK-Motherboard_2423574.html?wgu=13045_206719_15424938447614_1c9f5aa082&wgexpiry=1550269844&source=webgains&siteid=206719

There's also the MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Plus for £133.49: https://www.box.co.uk/MSI-MPG-Z390-GAMING-PLUS-Motherboard_2423571.html?wgu=13045_206719_15424940067473_8a2d7c5336&wgexpiry=1550270006&source=webgains&siteid=206719

And the ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4 for £124.97: https://www.ebuyer.com/862969-asrock-z390-phantom-gaming-4-1151-ddr4-atx-motherboard-z390-phantom-gaming-4?fo_c=951&fo_k=84adbb2c656a0ece5505b4128f4c05bf&fo_s=webgains&wgu=267255_206719_15424941538889_35512712c1&wgexpiry=1550270153&utm_source=webgains&utm_siteid=206719

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6 hours ago, DOGEY said:

Asus products can be very expensive. "Asus tax"

True, they do make good and reliable mobos.

Get a Asrock, they are really well done, great desgins and plenty of features for the price they ask, they are the best picks.

Had plenty of their products before and never had any issues.

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9 hours ago, Lord Letto said:

7+ USB ports on the motherboard itself or does the 7+ include the ones on the case (so if your case got 2 or 4 ports then you want 3 to 5+ ports on the back of the motherboard?)

If 5 or 6 USB ports on the back of the motherboard is ok, there's some Z390 options, mainly from ASRock & MSI, the 8600 should work on Z390 & would allow you to upgrade in the future to a 9600k, 9700k or 9900k without a BIOS update.

Here's a MSI MAG Z390 Tomahawk on sale for £10 off at £139.99: https://www.box.co.uk/MSI-MAG-Z390-TOMAHAWK-Motherboard_2423574.html?wgu=13045_206719_15424938447614_1c9f5aa082&wgexpiry=1550269844&source=webgains&siteid=206719

There's also the MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Plus for £133.49: https://www.box.co.uk/MSI-MPG-Z390-GAMING-PLUS-Motherboard_2423571.html?wgu=13045_206719_15424940067473_8a2d7c5336&wgexpiry=1550270006&source=webgains&siteid=206719

And the ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4 for £124.97: https://www.ebuyer.com/862969-asrock-z390-phantom-gaming-4-1151-ddr4-atx-motherboard-z390-phantom-gaming-4?fo_c=951&fo_k=84adbb2c656a0ece5505b4128f4c05bf&fo_s=webgains&wgu=267255_206719_15424941538889_35512712c1&wgexpiry=1550270153&utm_source=webgains&utm_siteid=206719

Thanks so much, I will look more into this as i did not know about z390 being compatible with 8th gen!

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8 hours ago, lukart said:

True, they do make good and reliable mobos.

Get a Asrock, they are really well done, great desgins and plenty of features for the price they ask, they are the best picks.

Had plenty of their products before and never had any issues.

Is there a huge difference between ASRock Z370 Extreme4 and Prime P in terms of functionality?

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15 hours ago, andyme said:

z390 will need bios update for 8th gen

you sure? I would think it would work out of the box? I know Z370 would need a BIOS update for 9th gen but I don't think Z390 thats for 9th gen would need a update for 8th gen, cause who would go from 9th gen to 8th gen? I figure Z390 would be good to start with using a 8th gen with the option to upgrade from a 8350k/8600k/8700k to a 9600k/9700k/9900k in the future without dealing with BIOS updates.

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no 8th gen needs bios update for z390 or bios update for z370 on 9th gen different bios versions on each 

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1 hour ago, andyme said:

no 8th gen needs bios update for z390 or bios update for z370 on 9th gen different bios versions on each 

Can you find a source? From what i've seen online 8th gen(i5-8600k, i7-8700k, ETC.)will work on Z390 out of the box:

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3810635/z390-compatibility-8700k.html

https://amp.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/9u719o/8th_gen_cpu_on_z390_board_will_i_have_to_do_any/

 

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