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asus strix rx vega 64 vs asus strix gtx 1070ti vs asus turbo rtx 2070

Just now, TheThymo said:

I might want to add that my budget should not exceed 550 EUR

You want a miracle, I'd just work/wait/save another month and get the card that will do what you want it to do.

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Hi there, I'm looking to get one of these cards for my build, to replace my old hd 7850 (its about time). i recently build a new pc and I only need to get a new gpu, I'll use it mainly for gaming.

The rest of the specs are:

Asus strix b450-f

r5 2600

16gb g.skill @ 3000

650 w psu (seasonic focus plus gold)

phanteks p300

 

my current monitor is a LG 29UM69G-B, but I think to get a second uw monitor in the future.

 

I'm kinda leaning toward the vega card, as I have a freesync monitor.

What would be the best choice, in your opinion, from the cards listed at the top?

 

(i've chosen the strix cards because we still don't have a programm  that can combine all the rgb's xD)

(to the turbo I hope to add a rgb backplate)

 

Thanks in advance!


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Forgot to add: almost all at the same price, (except the turbo if you don't add the backplate)


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another edit; the rtx card has just gone out of stock, and the price launched to 570 instead of 520, so scrap that one for now


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1 minute ago, BabyPCMR said:

I'd get the Vega or 2070, wouldn't even consider the 1070ti if all of these are close in price as you say.

why would you not consider the 1070ti?


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1 minute ago, TheThymo said:

why would you not consider the 1070ti?

Because the 2070 is the most powerful card, but the Vega 64 has free sync compatibility. The 1070ti is basically the Vega 64 with no free sync.

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What about Vega 56? Gaming performance isnt all the different to the 64.


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48 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

What about Vega 56? Gaming performance isnt all the different to the 64

What about it indeed, it is cheaper, but i asume i would be right if i say it is outperformed by the 64?


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1 hour ago, BabyPCMR said:

Because the 2070 is the most powerful card, but the Vega 64 has free sync compatibility. The 1070ti is basically the Vega 64 with no free sync.

Out of the two remaining, which eould be your choice?


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36 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

What about it indeed, it is cheaper, but i asume i would be right if i say it is outperformed by the 64?

10% advantage for the 64 on average, so...


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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (1700MHz 0.812V) RAM: 12GB DDR4-2666 CL19 (timings are so loose, might as well have lower frequency). Storage: 128GB Toshiba NVMe SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) Monitor: 1080p 120Hz IPS G-sync

 

The best thing to do is reading the clock speed that doesnt end in a pair of zeros. Software voltage readings are wrong if your motherboard's not a high end model

CPU: i7-2600K 4493MHz (multiplier: 43x) 1.35V (software) --> 1.4V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 104.5MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 10-11-11-30 2T 2133MHz, custom: 10-11-10-30 1T 2229MHz) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 2 exhausts Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (OC'd 150Hz) TN Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Results: Cinebench R15 Single thread:159 Multi-thread: 770 (thx Meltdown Spectre patch) Super Pi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.11s 1M: 8.4s 32M: 7m 45.9s

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On 11/6/2018 at 7:42 PM, TheThymo said:

Out of the two remaining, which eould be your choice?

I'd get the 2070, only because I like Nvidia's driver updates. They're much better about updates than AMD.

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Just st got my uncle a system almost like yours for his birthday present the strix vega 64 it's an amazing experience dual 1080p ultra-wide no tearing with FreeSync 100-120fps gtav a forze 2 96-108fps

2600X tho

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I would go for the Vega 64 or even a cheaper Vega 56 purely for the Freesync. I use the the 34" version of that monitor at work with a an RX580 in a Razer Core dock and the Freesync is a nice feature that I would not trade higher frame rates for.   

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Vega is clearly the best GPU out of the 3. The one with most horsepower, higher bandwith and yeah it will match or beat the 2070 in games if you take 10 minutes to undervolt it. Also FreeSync.

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Sapphire Vega 64 Nitro+, Asus Vega cards are pure crap compared to Sapphire


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8 hours ago, Quadriplegic said:

Sapphire Vega 64 Nitro+, Asus Vega cards are pure crap compared to Sapphire

Yeah, got a Nitro+, only downside is finding a waterblock for it. 

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9 hours ago, Hunter-97-G said:

Vega is clearly the best GPU out of the 3. The one with most horsepower, higher bandwith and yeah it will match or beat the 2070 in games if you take 10 minutes to undervolt it. Also FreeSync.

could you explain me what undervolting does?


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RTX 2070 all the way... realistically they all perform about the same but the RTX 2070 is the newest card and has Ray Tracing capacity when that becomes an actual deal while the other two don't.

 

Freesync? I mean we're talking about 2560x1080p75hz here so FreeSync is redundant as you'll never have frame drops that bad.


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9 hours ago, Quadriplegic said:

Sapphire Vega 64 Nitro+, Asus Vega cards are pure crap compared to Sapphire

sound a bit odd, as asus is one of the better brands out there, do you have any articles or something?

 

3 minutes ago, recoil101 said:

Yeah, got a Nitro+, only downside is finding a waterblock for it. 

luckily i'm not planning on watercooling 😛


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3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

RTX 2070 all the way... realistically they all perform about the same but the RTX 2070 is the newest card and has Ray Tracing capacity when that becomes a deal when the other two don't.

 

Freesync? I mean we're talking about 2560x1080p75hz here so FreeSync is redundant as you'll never have frame drops that bad.

rtx 2070 is out of the equation, the one I spotted for a reasonable price was an unfinished listing, a bit later the price went up. 

 So it is either 1070ti, vega 56, vega 64 or wait for 2060 or for 2070 to lower.


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9 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

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Lost the chance then there mate it was obviously the best alternative.

 

Vega cards are hot, sucks a shit ton of power and perform ever so slightly worse than their nVidia counter-parts gaming wise.

 

Oh but FreeSync! I mean do you even know what FreeSync and G-Sync are? they'll feed your monitor 'fake' frames whenever you have a large fps drop in a section so you feel it less, no micro-freeze feeling, keeping game smoothly.

 

Sounds good but then think again 2560x1080p is NOT a demanding resolution any more nowadays, these graphics cards are all capable of maxing out games and keeping it above 60fps all times meaning you'll never really use FreeSync, you'll most likely just have to V-Sync Triple Buff to avoid screen tearing instead.

 

With all this said, You could go for the cheapest alternative as it won't matter as much, if you undervolt the V56 and overclock it right it will perform as a V64 at stock settings, the GTX 1070 Ti highly overclocked will still perform better across the board though, save a very few exceptions here and there on AMD exclusive titles.


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15 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Lost the chance then there mate it was obviously the best alternative.

 

Vega cards are hot, sucks a shit ton of power and perform ever so slightly worse than their nVidia counter-parts gaming wise.

 

Oh but FreeSync! I mean do you even know what FreeSync and G-Sync are? they'll feed your monitor 'fake' frames whenever you have a large fps drop in a section so you feel it less, no micro-freeze feeling, keeping game smoothly.

 

Sounds good but then think again 2560x1080p is NOT a demanding resolution any more nowadays, these graphics cards are all capable of maxing out games and keeping it above 60fps all times meaning you'll never really use FreeSync, you'll most likely just have to V-Sync Triple Buff to avoid screen tearing instead.

 

With all this said, You could for the cheapest alternative as it won't matter as much, if you undervolt the V56 and overclock it right it will perform as a V64 at stock settings, the GTX 1070 Ti highly overclocked will still perform better across the board though, save a very few exceptions here and there on AMD exclusive titles.

My goal is to have a system that will be useful for around 4 or 5 years, and that can run a game at 1440p ultrawide with preferably everything at high.

What would you suggest for this?


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34 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

sound a bit odd, as asus is one of the better brands out there, do you have any articles or something?

 

I mean, just look up reviews. Sapphire has been making best AMD cards for years and Strix Vegas are notoriously bad when compared to other board partner cards


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58 minutes ago, TheThymo said:

My goal is to have a system that will be useful for around 4 or 5 years, and that can run a game at 1440p ultrawide with preferably everything at high.

What would you suggest for this?

The RTX 2080


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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

The RTX 2080

I might want to add that my budget should not exceed 550 EUR


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