It takes 4 minutes to boot my pc and I'm fed up with it ($10usd if u can fix my problem)

[Shally]

10 minutes ago, voiha said:

I didn't quoted you I was talking about homeap5

i think you need to reread this convo, you told me it wasnt a brute force and I said thank you?

[voiha]

@KendoSapion yeah my bad

[Spuddy0108]

Many reboots later... the problem still persists. I turned of hibernation as someone suggested it and uninstalled some programs that i thought might be the cause. I also disabled some startup software so it is now to the bare minimum. Still no change though.

[PowerChaos]

again my question

why do you have over provisioning enabled ?

 

Greets From PowerChaos

[Spuddy0108]

2 hours ago, PowerChaos said:

again my question

why do you have over provisioning enabled ?

 

Greets From PowerChaos

because it increases the lifespan of your ssd and makes it faster

[PowerChaos]

I still wonder a few things

you says That iT happende after a couple of days. So plenty of time to install a lot of things u til the disk get full ?

 

What happen If you do a fresh install and keep iT empty ?

dit you try to use the m.2 as boot disk ? Its faster

does iT also have That problem ?

if so ... then you definqlly want to check what you install

 

stuff That can do this:

backup tools 

virus scanners

virusses

windows update ... 

system restore points

shadow copy

basicly any program That love to run before Windows is started to gain full acces of the avaible resources and to read locked files ( bit locker ... )

 

then for over provosioning

seems its just allocating FREE Space to your ssd to get a bigger garbage collection ( bigger means iT need more time ) so I hope you do not have a program installed to optimize That collection to keep iT small

 

sidenote  with op I was thinking like drivespace. Or what they do with vps servers.  Putting more On iT then iT has space for

but for ssd its just free space

[Spuddy0108]

2 hours ago, PowerChaos said:

I still wonder a few things

you says That iT happende after a couple of days. So plenty of time to install a lot of things u til the disk get full ?

 

What happen If you do a fresh install and keep iT empty ?

dit you try to use the m.2 as boot disk ? Its faster

does iT also have That problem ?

if so ... then you definqlly want to check what you install

 

stuff That can do this:

backup tools 

virus scanners

virusses

windows update ... 

system restore points

shadow copy

basicly any program That love to run before Windows is started to gain full acces of the avaible resources and to read locked files ( bit locker ... )

 

then for over provosioning

seems its just allocating FREE Space to your ssd to get a bigger garbage collection ( bigger means iT need more time ) so I hope you do not have a program installed to optimize That collection to keep iT small

 

sidenote  with op I was thinking like drivespace. Or what they do with vps servers.  Putting more On iT then iT has space for

but for ssd its just free space

What makes you think my 'disks' are full? When did i ever state that? My drives aren't even half full.

As to 'it', I had the boot problem before. After i formatted  the pc booted normal again. But after a couple of days the problem returned, but not at every boot. Sometimes it was slow, sometimes it was fast. but after a while it got worse and now every boot is slow.

 

On a sidenote, not all m.2 drives are faster. Only those using nvme interface are

 

[PowerChaos]

Can you provide me the following

 

a video of the PC booting with splatch screen disabled

a screenshot of your motherboard with all devices visible ( video lan sound WiFi. Other pci ... )

screenshot of your PC with external attached hardware ( mouse keyboard usb stick WiFi usb other usb things that are plugged in at boot )

 

screenshot of your desktop with task manager on cpu and ram

also startup programs 

 

txt file from speccy

so I can see what all is installed and runninh

 also check diskinfo64 to check smart status and connection speed 

 

then I can see a lot more and hopely solve this

 

Greets from PowerChaos 

 

[Spuddy0108]

18 hours ago, PowerChaos said:

Can you provide me the following

 

a video of the PC booting with splatch screen disabled

a screenshot of your motherboard with all devices visible ( video lan sound WiFi. Other pci ... )

screenshot of your PC with external attached hardware ( mouse keyboard usb stick WiFi usb other usb things that are plugged in at boot )

 

screenshot of your desktop with task manager on cpu and ram

also startup programs 

 

txt file from speccy

so I can see what all is installed and runninh

 also check diskinfo64 to check smart status and connection speed 

 

then I can see a lot more and hopely solve this

 

Greets from PowerChaos 

 

I appreciate the help but yea, i'm gonna pass on filming me boot my pc. Other than my keyboard and mouse there is nothing connected. As for startup programs...

[Spuddy0108]

bump. Anyone got any more ideas?

[PowerChaos]

Ok Lets debug iT more

as I can not see the boot do i not know where the loop starts

 

so only keyboard and mouse connected ? Your using No internet then ?

 

anyway

check pxe boot

check raid boot

check fast boot

check secure boot

check uefi boot

check sata boot

Check os settings ( other os instead Linux )

disable powersave

enable s5 mode 

disable turbo mode

 

use only a single drive to boot. Disconecr other drives exept boot drive

check boot order and pit iT On the boot drive only

 

after That boot the pc and If iT is still slow then we can continue to debug other hardware

 

also I realy need That txt file from speccy to see all hardware and stuff.

 

greets from PowerChaos 

[homeap5]

4 hours ago, Spuddy0108 said:

bump. Anyone got any more ideas?

I give you 4, you use only one or two.

 

It's hard sometimes to find anything remotely.

[Spuddy0108]

On 8/27/2018 at 7:55 AM, homeap5 said:

I give you 4, you use only one or two.

 

It's hard sometimes to find anything remotely.

Sorry I forgot to add it to the original post but i did all you suggested. Non of it worked.

[homeap5]

Even uninstalling AV? Not just disable, but full uninstall.

[Spuddy0108]

2 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

Even uninstalling AV? Not just disable, but full uninstall.

I have no AV

[Spuddy0108]

On 8/27/2018 at 7:44 AM, PowerChaos said:

Ok Lets debug iT more

as I can not see the boot do i not know where the loop starts

 

so only keyboard and mouse connected ? Your using No internet then ?

 

anyway

check pxe boot

check raid boot

check fast boot

check secure boot

check uefi boot

check sata boot

Check os settings ( other os instead Linux )

disable powersave

enable s5 mode 

disable turbo mode

 

use only a single drive to boot. Disconecr other drives exept boot drive

check boot order and pit iT On the boot drive only

 

after That boot the pc and If iT is still slow then we can continue to debug other hardware

 

also I realy need That txt file from speccy to see all hardware and stuff.

 

greets from PowerChaos 

Yes, no internet cable, only keyboard mouse and the boot ssd were connected.

 

I don't know what pxe boot is, i don't have raid installed, fast boot and secure boot are disabled, don't know what sata or uefi boot are. Powersave and s5 changed, don't seem to fix it.

 

You still seem to think this is a hardware issue? It's very likely this is a software problem tbh

[Spuddy0108]

Here is the video

Don't mind the dvd player. I reconnected it after i reconnected all the harddrives. Thought i might need it soon for a format.

[homeap5]

1 hour ago, Spuddy0108 said:

Yes, no internet cable, only keyboard mouse and the boot ssd were connected.

 

I don't know what pxe boot is, i don't have raid installed, fast boot and secure boot are disabled, don't know what sata or uefi boot are. Powersave and s5 changed, don't seem to fix it.

 

You still seem to think this is a hardware issue? It's very likely this is a software problem tbh

It may be both. I mean - It's of course software problem (spinning wheel - Windows loads something or wait for something), but seems to be related to hardware.

Some special Asus applications are installed? Like "Dual Intelligent Processors", "ASUS Boot Setting", "GameFirst", "RAMCACHE" or other stuff like that? Asus always adds lot of stuff, but many people don't have good opinion of them (me included). If you don't do it already, try uninstalling all Asus crap, even if seems to be useful.

 

[Spuddy0108]

1 minute ago, homeap5 said:

It may be both. I mean - It's of course software problem (spinning wheel - Windows loads something or wait for something), but seems to be related to hardware.

Some special Asus applications are installed? Like "Dual Intelligent Processors", "ASUS Boot Setting", "GameFirst", "RAMCACHE" or other stuff like that? Asus always adds lot of stuff, but mostly people don't have good opinion of them (me included). If you don't do it already, try uninstalling all Asus crap, even if seems to be useful.

 

No asus software is installed. Only the latest hardware drivers from their website. After i updated the bios to the latest version i loaded the bios defaults. This didn't fix it either. Also, look up, i posted the video.

[homeap5]

1 hour ago, Spuddy0108 said:

No asus software is installed. Only the latest hardware drivers from their website. After i updated the bios to the latest version i loaded the bios defaults. This didn't fix it either. Also, look up, i posted the video.

I looked up - nice spinning circles, but it doesn't show me everything, that is why I'm asking.

Damn, this computer would be quite a challenge for me if only I could access it.

 

Do some test: https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/ssd_read_speed_tester.html

I know it's 840 PRO, so it should not have problem with data degradation, but it's also old SSD, so maybe it's worth to test read speed of old written data? If you said that you have problem not right after fresh install but later?

[Spuddy0108]

3 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

I looked up - nice spinning circles, but it doesn't show me everything, that is why I'm asking.

Damn, this computer would be quite a challenge for me if only I could access it.

No but Powerchaos was asking for it Here is the bootlog if that helps

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1e9VBPk-5-73BsNo4TQAtLE8C4MBTu9Gj

[homeap5]

1 hour ago, Spuddy0108 said:

No but Powerchaos was asking for it Here is the bootlog if that helps

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1e9VBPk-5-73BsNo4TQAtLE8C4MBTu9Gj

That bootlogs people required for check (and it never gives any solution).

 

I'm looking at last lines with "Samsung Magician" - it's probably load after Windows is loaded, but worth try to uninstall it - as far as I remember, Magician starts slowly and doesn't need to be started all the time. But I think it's not a problem, since it's probably autostart after desktop is loaded.

 

What happen if you unplug lan cable and try to boot? Or even disable lan controller in BIOS? I know - that "try this", "try that" is annoying, but I have some idea if after disabling lan in BIOS, computer will boot fast.

[Spuddy0108]

Done and done. No luck though.

[homeap5]

1 hour ago, Spuddy0108 said:

Done and done. No luck though.

You know, there are programs for check boot speed/time.

https://www.thewindowsclub.com/measure-boot-time-windows

These programs may help you more than us.

[PowerChaos]

Ok

in bootlog I found a few Nice things

 

dxg is not loaded

wd is not loaded

ntproxy is not loaded

repeat same thing differend times ( loop )

 

so

dit you install Some wd software ?

maybe for one of your other drives ?

 

also update direct x

not sure if dxg is related to it but it won’t hurt

 

second

open msconfig and disable those 3 things from system startup ( see boot not loaded in boot log )

so it does not try to load them ( as they seems to fail anyway )

and if that fix it then it is just looking where those drivers came from

 

Just type in msconfig to open it ( or task manager -> run ) 

 

the boot video shows me that it is windows preload

as hardware seems fine ( no prepost ) and windows just try to load the drivers ( no blinks or loops or other stuff )

 

Sidenote

pxe is network boot ( but it is fine. See vid )

 

so let’s try to debug the boot loader and drivers now ( pre windows )

 

Greets from PowerChaos