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any sources to comparasion between fera 3 and fera 3 rgb?

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5 minutes ago, imajerec said:

any sources to comparasion between fera 3 and fera 3 rgb?

 

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9 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

 

i asked it because fera 3 rgb is 1 tier under the non rgb fera 3

rgb version =52cfm 

non rgb=46.5cfm 

so?

 

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1 hour ago, imajerec said:

i asked it because fera 3 rgb is 1 tier under the non rgb fera 3

rgb version =52cfm 

non rgb=46.5cfm 

so?

CFM isn't everything. It's not listed but the different fan designs probably provide different amounts of static pressure and the non-rgb cooler is a bit taller and heavier. 

The reason why the Fera 3 was placed higher was due to a few great showings as mentioned here: 

The Fera 3 RGB's results seem a bit worse for some reason and one of the direct comparisons from TechLipton does show it slightly worse. My guess as to why might be that the lowered fan is more easily impeded by components like ram along with the different fan.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/silentiumpc-fera-3-rgb/6.html

http://www.ddworld.cz/pc-a-komponenty/procesory-a-pameti/test-silentiumpc-fera-3-rgb-he1224-popularni-klasika-nove-ve-verzi-s-rgb-podsvicenim-3.html

https://www.tech-review.de/include.php?path=content/articles.php&contentid=167336&page=5

https://whatnext.pl/test-chlodzenia-silentiumpc-fera-3-rgb/3/

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53 minutes ago, imajerec said:

just look at the performance of the fera 3 rgb https://www.eteknix.com/silentium-fera-3-rgb-he1224-cpu-air-cooler-review/5/ this is too good to be true imo

 

I don't think those results are serious. Looks way too wrong for me. I don't find it credible.

Life is really challenging. I don't always suceed: )

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3 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

The Fera 3 RGB's results seem a bit worse for some reason and one of the direct comparisons from TechLipton does show it slightly worse

link?

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10 hours ago, imajerec said:

just look at the performance of the fera 3 rgb https://www.eteknix.com/silentium-fera-3-rgb-he1224-cpu-air-cooler-review/5/ this is too good to be true imo

Did you look at their testing methodology? Instead of peak, they look at average core temp. Instead of running fans at 100% rpm, they're left on the default pwm curve. They also use NT-H1 instead of the stock thermal paste. 

Yes, it's inconsistent with most other results if you're assuming the tests are done the same way and with max fan rpm but that isn't the case.

7 hours ago, imajerec said:

link?

I posted plenty of links.. Did you click on them?

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41 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

 

You haven't posted any link to a direct comparasion between the two from neither "TechLipton" as you said,or any other source in the links . And the non rgb cooler isn't heavier as you said above,non rgb 610g vs rgb 630g taken fron the official website specs

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2 minutes ago, imajerec said:

You haven't posted any link to a direct comparasion between the two from neither "TechLipton" as you said,or any other source in the links 

I have. Did you click on the links to my previous posts? 

There aren't many direct comparisons but these two were linked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzkIs2ksCX8&feature=youtu.be&t=295

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fmTMhS2ecw&feature=youtu.be&t=342

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I can get the DEEPCOOL Neptwin White for 40 CAD or the Hyper 212 Black RGB for 50 CAD. From the list I am seeing that they are equivalent but from this source (http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2713&page=4 [page 4 and 5]), it performs worse than the Hyper 212 Evo. 

 

Also from the source it performs slightly better than the Gammaxx 400 by 1 degree. This was a 2013 review btw with different fans. 

Another source saying it is close to the Gammaxx 400 (review from 2012 though): neptwing11.gif

Therefore I think the Hyper 212 RGB BE is better for my Ryzen 3600 than the neptwin but I wanted to run it by this thread to confirm my suspicions. 

 

Thanks! 

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3 hours ago, AsianPersuasion said:

I can get the DEEPCOOL Neptwin White for 40 CAD or the Hyper 212 Black RGB for 50 CAD. From the list I am seeing that they are equivalent but from this source (http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2713&page=4 [page 4 and 5]), it performs worse than the Hyper 212 Evo. 

 

Also from the source it performs slightly better than the Gammaxx 400 by 1 degree. This was a 2013 review btw with different fans. 

Another source saying it is close to the Gammaxx 400 (review from 2012 though): 

Therefore I think the Hyper 212 RGB BE is better for my Ryzen 3600 than the neptwin but I wanted to run it by this thread to confirm my suspicions. 

The problem with FrostyTech's results is generally that the loads aren't high enough to push higher end coolers to where the differences are shown clearly. That's also why the rise over ambient is so small for so many of the coolers. It's also of the original Neptwin as opposed to the White which is the V2. 

Both the Neptwin V2 and Hyper 212 RGB BE are slightly better than the Gammaxx 400 but the Neptwin V2 seems to be the best performer out of the group. Here's a result of it outperforming the NH-U12S: https://ru.gecid.com/cooler/deepcool_neptwin_v2/?s=1

The original Neptwin also has some great showings of keeping up with the NH-U14S:

https://prohardver.hu/teszt/deepcool_processzorhutok_trioja/teszteles.html

https://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/noctua_nh_u14s/4.htm

If you're just aiming for performance, the cheaper Neptwin V2 is the better buy. If you prefer the aesthetic of the Hyper 212 RGB BE, it's also a good option for a bit more. 

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Good list here is a 1st hand update for you though:

Corsair H150i Pro on 9900k@5ghz 1.35vcore = 78-82c full load aida 64 stability test and loud with all 3 fans blaring off like crazy 
Noctua NH-15D on 9900k@5ghz 1.35vcore = 72-78c full load aida 64 stability test and not even close to the 150i pro with fans at full load 

I would strongly recommend the NH15d above the h150i pro ;)

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2 hours ago, Kenjo said:

Corsair H150i Pro on 9900k@5ghz 1.35vcore = 78-82c full load aida 64 stability test and loud with all 3 fans blaring off like crazy 
Noctua NH-15D on 9900k@5ghz 1.35vcore = 72-78c full load aida 64 stability test and not even close to the 150i pro with fans at full load 
I would strongly recommend the NH15d above the h150i pro ;)

What case are you using and where was the rad mounted?

I'd more often recommend the NH-D15 as well for better consistency as well. The reason why the H150i Pro is placed higher is due to how dramatically better it cools in some of its great showings whereas its losses are generally not that far behind.  

 

This isn't all the data used but it's what I pulled up now that be used for reference and cross reference to similar coolers:

Some reviews only contain one of the two coolers but contain other coolers that can be referenced such as the Kraken X72 that definitely performs better than the NH-D15 and H115i Pro / Kraken X61 / 62 that perform at least similarly to the NH-D15 if not slightly better. 

 

A few bad showings (< NH-D15):

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13219/the-corsair-h150i-pro-rgb-aio-cooler-review/4

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8540/corsair-h150i-pro-rgb-cpu-cooler-review/index7.html

https://www.hd-tecnologia.com/review-corsair-hydro-series-h150i-pro-rgb/

https://quasarzone.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=qf_cool&wr_id=9524

 

A few okay showings (≈ NH-D15):

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-hydro-series-h150i-pro/6.html

https://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/cpu-cooling/liquid-cpu-coolers/8572-corsair-hydro-h150i-pro-low-noise-360mm-rgb-liquid-cpu-cooler-review?start=6

http://www.ddworld.cz/pc-a-komponenty/procesory-a-pameti/test-corsair-h150i-pro-rgb-hydro-vykonne-360mm-aio-vodniho-chlazeni-s-rgb-v-akci-3.html

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3197-corsair-h150i-pro-review-first-6th-gen-asetek-pump

 

Some more good showings (a bit better than NH-D15):

https://www.pcgamer.com/corsair-hydro-h150i-pro-rgb-360mm-review/

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/dominic-moass/corsair-h150i-pro-360mm-aio-liquid-cooler-review/5/

https://bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/cooling/corsair-hydro-series-h150i-pro-rgb-and-h115i-pro-rgb-reviews/2/

https://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/blog/corsair-h150i-pro-rgb-review/

https://tech4gamers.com/corsair-hydro-series-h150i-pro-rgb-liquid-cpu-cooler-review/

https://hothardware.com/reviews/corsair-aio-liquid-cooler-roundup?page=3

https://www.techtesters.eu/corsair-h150i-pro-review/

https://www.profesionalreview.com/2018/01/12/corsair-h150i-pro-review/

https://youtu.be/pdvXuGm8Zac?t=173

https://youtu.be/xJUUf65hAZU?t=303

 

Some great showings (> NH-D15):

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsair_h115i_pro_rgb_and_h150i_pro_rgb_review/5

https://techreport.com/review/33035/corsairs-h115i-pro-and-h150i-pro-cpu-coolers-reviewed/

https://www.mmorpg.com/hardware-reviews/nzxt-kraken-x72-holds-up-to-the-heat-1000012892

http://www.technews.lt/portal/reviews/nzxt-kraken-x72-pries-corsair-h150i-pro-ir-geriausi-aio-pries-geriausius-orinukus/6/

https://youtu.be/xEjm2fZyaeI?t=379

 

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Just now, WoodenMarker said:

What case are you using and where was the rad mounted?

I'd more often recommend the NH-D15 as well for better consistency as well. The reason why the H150i Pro is placed higher is due to how dramatically better it cools in some of its great showings whereas its losses are generally not that far behind.  

 

This isn't all the data used but it's what I pulled up now that be used for reference and cross reference to similar coolers:

Some reviews only contain one of the two coolers but contain other coolers that can be referenced such as the Kraken X72 that definitely performs better than the NH-D15 and H115i Pro / Kraken X61 / 62 that perform at least similarly to the NH-D15 if not slightly better. 

 

A few bad showings (< NH-D15):

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13219/the-corsair-h150i-pro-rgb-aio-cooler-review/4

https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8540/corsair-h150i-pro-rgb-cpu-cooler-review/index7.html

https://www.hd-tecnologia.com/review-corsair-hydro-series-h150i-pro-rgb/

https://quasarzone.co.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=qf_cool&wr_id=9524

 

A few okay showings (≈ NH-D15):

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/corsair-hydro-series-h150i-pro/6.html

https://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/cpu-cooling/liquid-cpu-coolers/8572-corsair-hydro-h150i-pro-low-noise-360mm-rgb-liquid-cpu-cooler-review?start=6

http://www.ddworld.cz/pc-a-komponenty/procesory-a-pameti/test-corsair-h150i-pro-rgb-hydro-vykonne-360mm-aio-vodniho-chlazeni-s-rgb-v-akci-3.html

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3197-corsair-h150i-pro-review-first-6th-gen-asetek-pump

 

Some more good showings (a bit better than NH-D15):

https://www.pcgamer.com/corsair-hydro-h150i-pro-rgb-360mm-review/

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/dominic-moass/corsair-h150i-pro-360mm-aio-liquid-cooler-review/5/

https://bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/cooling/corsair-hydro-series-h150i-pro-rgb-and-h115i-pro-rgb-reviews/2/

https://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/blog/corsair-h150i-pro-rgb-review/

https://tech4gamers.com/corsair-hydro-series-h150i-pro-rgb-liquid-cpu-cooler-review/

https://hothardware.com/reviews/corsair-aio-liquid-cooler-roundup?page=3

https://www.techtesters.eu/corsair-h150i-pro-review/

https://www.profesionalreview.com/2018/01/12/corsair-h150i-pro-review/

https://youtu.be/pdvXuGm8Zac?t=173

https://youtu.be/xJUUf65hAZU?t=303

 

Some great showings (> NH-D15):

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsair_h115i_pro_rgb_and_h150i_pro_rgb_review/5

https://techreport.com/review/33035/corsairs-h115i-pro-and-h150i-pro-cpu-coolers-reviewed/

https://www.mmorpg.com/hardware-reviews/nzxt-kraken-x72-holds-up-to-the-heat-1000012892

http://www.technews.lt/portal/reviews/nzxt-kraken-x72-pries-corsair-h150i-pro-ir-geriausi-aio-pries-geriausius-orinukus/6/

https://youtu.be/xEjm2fZyaeI?t=379

 

My h150i pro (RiP) was top mounted with fans blowing out , 2 intake fans at the front of my Meshify S2 TG Tint chassi... the NH-15 is mounted with fans in push/pull blowing backwards to the back case fan pushing air out... 

Did extensive research on where to put the h150 i and fan setup and top mounted blowing out was the nr 1 choice of most tests 

But im not trying to put you down or anything but from personal experience the NH-15 is tearing the h150i pro apart in both performance and noise... its so quiet i can hear a pin drop outside my window ;) now just to kill the coilwhine from the 2080ti ;)

 

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3 minutes ago, Kenjo said:

My h150i pro (RiP) was top mounted with fans blowing out , 2 intake fans at the front of my Meshify S2 TG Tint chassi... the NH-15 is mounted with fans in push/pull blowing backwards to the back case fan pushing air out... 

But im not trying to put you down or anything but from personal experience the NH-15 is tearing the h150i pro apart in both performance and noise... its so quiet i can hear a pin drop outside my window ;) now just to kill the coilwhine from the 2080ti ;)

The setup seems great. Did you remove or leave the top filter with the H150i Pro?

I greatly appreciate the input. It's a reminder to pull up old reviews and to look for new ones. The H150i Pro is definitely one of the coolers that are a bit iffy due to the performance inconsistency.

 

Results will vary between systems and that's why test results from reviews won't 'agree' in the order of cooler temps. Since testing every configuration isn't feasible, the list is an attempt for the next best thing by finding an average result from tests. There are certainly details lost in summary since coolers like the H150i Pro that sometimes perform much better and coolers like the H115i Pro that are more consistent but don't perform as well on the upper end can end up in the same tier. 

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Just now, WoodenMarker said:

The setup seems great. Did you remove or leave the top filter with the H150i Pro?

I greatly appreciate the input. It's a reminder to pull up old reviews and to look for new ones. The H150i Pro is definitely one of the coolers that are a bit iffy due to the performance inconsistency.

 

Results will vary between systems and that's why test results from reviews won't 'agree' in the order of cooler temps. Since testing every configuration isn't feasible, the list is an attempt for the next best thing by finding an average result from tests. There are certainly details lost in summary since coolers like the H150i Pro that sometimes perform much better and coolers like the H115i Pro that are more consistent but don't perform as well on the upper end can end up in the same tier. 

Well to answer about the top mesh/filter i never removed it since that would negate me buying just that case ;) if i wanted a totally open top i would buy a chassi with just that or just an open test bench , fyi the NH-15d is also running with the top mesh on ... 

And yes its hard to find any "correct" temp avg results for any top end coolers since it differs so much from chassi to chassi

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Just now, Kenjo said:

Well to answer about the top mesh/filter i never removed it since that would negate me buying just that case ;) if i wanted a totally open top i would buy a chassi with just that or just an open test bench , fyi the NH-15d is also running with the top mesh on ... 

The NH-D15 is relying on front intake to rear exhaust so the top filter shouldn't make much of a difference. 

The H150i Pro's airflow is directly impeded by the top filter and likely unnecessarily so unless settling dust is a big problem. Exhausts are best left unfiltered since the air going through them should already be filtered.

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Just now, WoodenMarker said:

The NH-D15 is relying on front intake to rear exhaust so the top filter shouldn't make much of a difference. 

The H150i Pro's airflow is directly impeded by the top filter and likely unnecessarily so unless settling dust is a big problem. Exhausts are best left unfiltered since the air going through them should already be filtered.

Even without using the top mesh/filter the h150i pro only managed 1c less in temps so that isnt hardly an noticeable improvement as Nexus would say Margin of error ;)

 

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Hi,

 

I Recently upgraded to a RTX 2070 Super (GigaByte Windforce OC) and it seems to be circulating a lot more hot air in the case than my old GTX 1070.

I would never see my CPU above 75C with my old GPU, but now with the new GPU it can sometimes even reach peaks of over 80C. If I run a stress test that's just CPU it hits around 70C but when running cpu and gpu together it hits 80C.

Currently running a 9700k@5ghz (1.31v) with a Noctua D15 Cooler. I have 2 140mm intake fans and a single 120mm exhaust.

 

I was wondering if switching the D-15 for a 240mm AIO could improve my cpu temps, as it could pull fresh air in from the front of the case. Or if maybe I just need to improve airflow through my case in other ways.

 

I also noticed the D15 is in Tier 2 and that a 240mm AIO like the Corsair h100x is in Tier 1. Is the h100x actually better than a D15, as everything I've read in the past makes it seem like the D15 can compete with 280/360mm AIOs.

 

Case is a Fractal Design Define Nano S for reference.

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8 hours ago, itsjase said:

I was wondering if switching the D-15 for a 240mm AIO could improve my cpu temps, as it could pull fresh air in from the front of the case. Or if maybe I just need to improve airflow through my case in other ways.

What case fans are you currently using and what rpm are they running at during these loads?

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11 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

What case fans are you currently using and what rpm are they running at during these loads?

I'm running 2 Venturi HF-14s as intake with the LNA which sit around 900rpm and a Dynamic GP-12 as the exhaust at 1200rpm.

I could try running the HF-14s without the LNA (1200rpm) but they are quite a bit noisier.

 

I also discovered I can fit an X62 in my case, if that's also a better option.

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15 minutes ago, itsjase said:

I'm running 2 Venturi HF-14s as intake with the LNA which sit around 900rpm and a Dynamic GP-12 as the exhaust at 1200rpm.

I could try running the HF-14s without the LNA (1200rpm) but they are quite a bit noisier.

I also discovered I can fit an X62 in my case, if that's also a better option.

Are you running the fans at max rpm or on a fan curve? The LNA is only really useful if you otherwise aren't able to control the fan speeds. 

The Define Nano S is a bit restrictive at the front which the HF-14's aren't well suited for. You might be better off with the stock GP-14 for the front although the rpm is a bit lower. Try removing the front panel and seeing if temps are any better. 

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3 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

Are you running the fans at max rpm or on a fan curve? The LNA is only really useful if you otherwise aren't able to control the fan speeds. 

The Define Nano S is a bit restrictive at the front which the HF-14's aren't well suited for. You might be better off with the stock GP-14 for the front although the rpm is a bit lower. Try removing the front panel and seeing if temps are any better. 

Running them at Max RPM, Don't have a fan controller so I was running all 3 fans off 1 header. Wasn't sure how a fan curve would would work with 2 different fan types on the same header.

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3 minutes ago, itsjase said:

Running them at Max RPM, Don't have a fan controller so I was running all 3 fans off 1 header. Wasn't sure how a fan curve would would work with 2 different fan types on the same header.

What motherboard are you using? Fans grouped together receive the same signal so I would just group pwm and dc fans onto separate headers. 

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