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June 2, 2017 - The WAN Show Document

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==================HEDT Battle Royale!===============

1/3: AMD Announces new Threadripper details

Source 1: posted by randomhkkid https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/787057-amd-announces-new-threadripper-details-64-pcie-lanes-and-quad-channel-ddr4-on-all-chips/

Source 2:  http://www.anandtech.com/show/11476/computex-2017-amd-press-event-live-blog-starts-10pm-et


  • Confirmed to be half an EPYC processor

  • 16 core 32 thread top end made up of 2 dies

  • All products featuring 64 lanes PCIe, 60 from CPU 4 from chipset

  • All products featuring DDR4 Quad channel memory

  • All products featuring 16MB L3 Cache

  • X399 Chipset

  • Release Summer 2017

2/3: Skylake-X will increase the core count of Intel’s HEDT platform from 10 to 18

Source 1:  posted by randomhkkid https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/786430-official-intel-announces-skylake-x-w-ipc-gain-over-skylake-s-i9-7980xe-bringing-18-cores-at-1999-specs-tbd-until-threadripper/

Source 2: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11464/intel-announces-skylakex-bringing-18core-hcc-silicon-to-consumers-for-1999


  • It’s speculated that Intel increased the core count in response to AMD’s 16C Threadripper, since Skylake-X was initially expected to feature a max of 12 cores.

  • ...but The first model with 40 PCIe lanes is $1,000


3/3: Rumour: AMD Threadripper for under $1,000?

Source 1: posted by losts of unexplainable lag https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/787774-bitsandchips-entry-level-threadripper-16c32t-to-come-at-the-nice-low-price-of-849/

Source 2:  https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/870373386391891968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Flinustechtips.com%2Fmain%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcore%26module%3Dsystem%26controller%3Dembed%26url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBitsAndChipsEng%2Fstatus%2F870373386391891968


  • A single tweet from Bits And Chips suggests that the “entry level 16C/32T Threadripper” chips will cost $849

  • But how much will the requisite motherboard cost?





More AMD News:

AMD Trims Prices of the Ryzen 7 1700 and 1700X

Source 1: posted by lots of unexplainable lag https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/787509-amd-trims-pricing-of-the-ryzen-7-1700-and-1700x-1700-for-319-1700x-for-349/

Source 2: https://www.techpowerup.com/233966/amd-trims-prices-of-the-ryzen-7-1700-and-1700x


  • Compared to launch prices, the R7 Ryzen chips now cost:



Launch Price

Current Price
















AMD Vega Release Dates

Source 1:  posted by HKZeroFive https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/786849-amd-radeon-rx-vega-to-launch-at-siggraph-2017/

Source 2: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11481/amd-vega-updates-vega-frontier-edition-available-june-27th-vega-rx-to-be-launched-at-siggraph-at-end-of-july


  • Vega Frontier Edition card will be available on June 27th

    • The Frontier Edition is AMD’s first batch of Vega-based cards, marketed towards early adopters in the professional segment.

    • A price has not been announced, but expect it to be high.

  • Radeon RX Vega launch will be taking place at the Association for Computing Machinery’s annual graphics conference, SIGGRAPH.

  • SIGGRAPH runs from July 30th to August 3rd- almost exactly 2 months out.




Elon Musk to Trump: You quit Paris, so I quit you

Source 1: http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/01/news/elon-musk-resigns-trump-adviser/

Source 2:  https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/02/elon-musk-and-disney-boss-quit-trumps-business-panel-over-paris-pullout


  • Elon Musk has quit two of President Trump's business advisory councils after the president announced he will pull the U.S. out of the Paris climate agreement

  • Musk Tweeted: "Am departing presidential councils. Climate change is real. Leaving Paris is not good for America or the world,"

  • Disney CEO Bob Iger also announced Thursday that he's resigning from the Strategic and Policy Forum


US approves social media background checks for visa applicants

Source 1: https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/01/us-approves-social-media-background-checks-for-visa-applicants/


Source 2:  The actual questionnair: https://tr.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/91/2017/05/DS-5535-Supplemental-Questions-for-Visa-Applicants.pdf



  • The U.S. government’s Office of Management and Budget announced new requirements for social media disclosures as part of revised visa applications.

  • The new questionnaire will ask for social media handles dating back over the last five years and biographical information dating back 15 years.

  • The additional information would only be requested when the department determines that “such information is required to confirm identity or conduct more rigorous national security vetting.”

  • Critics say:

“What this language effectively does is give the consular posts permission to step away from the focused factors they have spent years developing and revising, and instead broaden the search to large groups based on gross factors such as nationality and religion,”




What’s Coming Out on Floatplane? Go Over Current Week.

Rapid Fire

Nintendo Switch online paid service will launch in 2018

Source 1:  posted by GoodBytes https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/787665-nintendo-switch-online-paid-service-will-launch-in-2018-20-per-year-includes-unlimited-access-to-a-library-of-old-nes-games/

Source 2: https://kotaku.com/nintendo-details-switch-online-service-will-be-20-yea-1795743981


  • Nintendo has announced that the Switch’s online service will cost $20/year and will launch in 2018

  • “Nintendo Switch Online subscribers will have ongoing access to a library of classic games with added online play. Users can play as many of the games as they want, as often as they like, as long as they have an active subscription.”

  • At launch the classic game library will include NES games like Super Mario Bros. 3, Balloon Fight and Dr. Mario.

  • Super NES games continue to be under Nintendo’s consideration, but haven’t been announced yet.

  • Voice chat and online lobby features won’t be available on the Switch itself. Instead, you’ll have to use them through a smartphone app that Nintendo says will be launch this summer

    • “Our new dedicated smart device app will connect to Nintendo Switch and let you invite friends to play online, set play appointments, and chat with friends during online matches in compatible games─all from your smart device,”

  • Playing Switch games online will be free until the service launches.




North Korea launches the iPad

Source 1: posted by GoodBytes https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/787564-north-korea-company-myohyang-it-releases-a-new-tablet-called-ipad/

Source 2: https://www.neowin.net/news/north-korean-company-myohyang-it-releases-a-new-tablet-called-the-ipad

  • A state-controlled North Korean company Myohyang IT just announced the Ryonghung iPad, a tablet that includes:

    • a 1GHz CPU,

    • 512MB RAM,

    • 8GB of internal storage

    • 16GB of external storage,

    • an 8-inch display.

    • it promises six hours of battery life.

  • it's currently unknown what kind of apps the device will be able to run in a region like North Korea, which has a total of 28 websites.

  • Apple hasn't responded to this breach of its iPad trademark, though it's not likely that these devices will be in high demand outside of North Korea.

  • Can Apple even do anything to stop this?




Asrock Announces ITX/ac board for AMD Ryzen

Source 1:  posted by Doc Swag https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/787158-asrock-announces-asrock-x370-gaming-itxac-the-first-non-biostar-mini-itx-am4-board-and-it-comes-with-wifi/

Source 2: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11473/asrock-miniitx-x370-gaming-itxac


  • ASRock has introduced the first non-Biostar miniature motherboard for AMD Ryzen microprocessors

  • The ASRock X370 Gaming ITX/ac is based on the AMD X370 chipset and supports all currently available processors in the AM4 form-factor, including A-series APUs as well as all Ryzen CPUs

  • available in the coming weeks for $150 – $160



Nvidia announces GPUs for thinner Gaming laptops!

Source 1: posted by Radian https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/787347-nvidia-annouces-max-q-designed-gpus-for-thinner-and-lighter-gaming-laptops/

Source 2: https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhead/2017/05/31/nvidia-slims-down-gaming-laptops-with-new-max-q-technology/#5f4bc3c3374b


  • Traditionally, Nvidia has sought to deliver peak performance, but the last few performance points come at a disproportionately high power cost, meaning more space is required in order to dissipate the heat.

  • Now, NVIDIA is looking to find the fastest and most power-optimized performance level to allow for laptops under 20mm thick AND sport a GTX 1080.

  • This week at Computex,  NVIDIA announced a new program and design specification called MAX-Q that will enable any of NVIDIA’s partners sacrifice 10% of the card’s performance for better cooling an quieter operation.

  • Mazx Q uses:

    • smart fan algorithms to dynamically adjust to the different power states of the GPU

    • WhisperMode that uses FPS targeting which allows the user to target a certain frame rate within the game that they deem acceptable. Once that targeting is completed, the GPU will only take on as much load as is needed to display the game at that frame rate


ASUS announces a mouthwatering 200Hz Ultrawide

Source 1: posted by suits https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/787225-asus-announces-35-inch-rog-swift-pg35vq-display-with-quantum-dots-and-200hz-refresh-rate/

Source 2: http://www.techspot.com/news/69517-asus-announces-35-inch-rog-swift-pg35vq-display.html


  • The Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ is a 35-inch ultra-wide curved quantum dot LCD monitor with:

    • a 3,440 x 1,440 pixel resolution (21:9 aspect ratio)

    • refresh rate of 200Hz.

    • G-SYNC

    • HDR capabilities

  • fourth quarter 2017 release date




The first Ryzen All-In-One

Source 1:  posted by lots of unexplainable lag https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/786516-dell-launches-the-inspiron-27-7000-series-full-on-amd-aio-with-up-to-ryzen-7-1700-and-rx580-8gb/

Source 2:  http://www.anandtech.com/show/11455/dell-launches-inspiron-27-7775-aio-ryzen-7-rx-580?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social


  • Dell has introduced its first all-in-one PC based on AMD Ryzen microprocessor: the Inspiron 27 7000-series

  • Dell will offer multiple configurations, some of which will feature a 4K display

    • Low end:

      • The quad-core AMD Ryzen 5 1400

      • Radeon RX 560 with 4 GB of GDDR5 memory

      • 180 W PSU.

    • High-end:

      • eight-core AMD Ryzen 7 1700

      • Radeon RX 580 with 8 GB of GDDR5

      • 330 W PSU

  • Entry level models start at $1,000



‘Anti AI’ AI for the Post-Truth era!

Source 1: posted by vorticalbox https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/786646-anti-ai-ai/

Source 2:  https://rnd.dt.com.au/anti-ai-ai-a-wearable-ai-device-244900e4d71c


  • DT R&D has prototyped a device to help you know when the voice speaking to you belongs not to a human, but to AI.

  • Worn on the ear and connected to a neural net trained on real and synthetic voices, the device notifies the wearer when a synthetic voice is detected by cooling the skin on the back of your neck!

    • “By using a 4x4mm thermoelectric Peltier plate we were able to create a noticeable chill on the skin near the back of the neck “

  • An Arduino chip streams audio to a Tensorflow IOS application running a neural net trained on synthetic voices.



Big Leagues: $10 Million League Of Legends Tournament

Source 1:  https://www.gamespot.com/articles/10-million-is-the-price-for-teams-to-join-revamped/1100-6450508/

Source 2:  https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-01/to-buy-into-this-video-gaming-league-it-s-at-least-10-million


  • League Championship Series is changing its structure to become something that will more closely resemble the massive traditional sports leagues like the NBA or NFL

  • Under the new LCS structure, there will be 10 teams that are always in the mix, instead of squads that rotate

  • Team applications for the new LCS opened today: The buy-in price is $10 million!

  • Players on the 10 selected teams get a guaranteed salary of at least $75,000.

  • Riot Games said its end goal is to "create a strong and stable system that's profitable for pro players and provides entertainment for fans in the long term."

  • There are three major pillars of the changes, including revenue-sharing, protecting and supporting pro players (with a players' association and more), and changes to the structure to encourage long-term investments.

  • Once the 10 teams are determined, they are in the league for good.

  • Riot says that it will offer incentives to teams that play well and penalise the squads that purposefully stay at the bottom of the ladder.



========================================Jon’s Picks:


Sexy Headline: Right to speak freely about engineering is subject of 1st Amendment lawsuit

Source 1:  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/06/right-to-speak-freely-about-engineering-is-subject-of-1st-amendment-lawsuit/



  • Oregon requires a license to even discuss engineering publicly or even to say you're an engineer.

  • Dude sued, saying the government's behavior was a breach of the First Amendment right of speech

Microsoft rolls out not one but two bad builds to the Windows Insider program

Source 1: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/microsoft-rolls-out-not-one-but-two-bad-builds-to-the-windows-insider-program/



  • Microsoft accidently released two different builds—one for desktop users, another for mobile—to their Windows Insider program.

  • In both cases, systems configured to use the fast ring could find themselves downloading and installing Windows releases that weren't supposed to ship to the general public

  • The mobile is especially bad: phones that install it will get stuck in a boot loop, and the only way to restore them is to use the Windows Device Recovery Tool. This will wipe the entire phone and flash it with a working firmware.


Scientists discover how the brain recognises faces – by reading monkey's minds

Source 1: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/01/scientists-discover-how-the-brain-recognises-faces-by-reading-monkeys-minds



  • DScientists have created eerily perfect replicas of human faces that were shown to monkeys just from recording the animal’s brain waves

  • The researchers developed an algorithm that could decode previously unseen faces from neural responses recorded from directly from the brains of two monkeys.

  • Electrical recordings made from around 100 neurons in the face patch regions of each monkey were enough to recreate almost identical images to those seen by the animals.



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Yes, Jon + Luke is pretty amazing duo. I wonder how good Jon + Nick would be, might be great as well.

Shame there were no timestamps, but ppl in the comments have saved the day :) .

PS: That brainwave analysis by Caltech is hella scary.

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Can't wait for next week's WAN show computex, the whole intel kaby lake chipseries controversy and the scrapyard wars final coming up

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Got randomly banned from the chat. Anyone who is mod who can clarify what i did wrong??

  • time lol
  • Twitch Primetsuzot: We need Dennis to start the Wan show. It's always on time with him.
  • edwardyoung12: id love to come to lax but i hate flying
  • maximeseeder2: @Lostcattears Yes its live on FIBER
  • ScienceRedstoneMC: @Caltane Remind them to change the title of the stream >.<
  • SubscriberTwitch PrimeMetacomet10: Hey everyone maybe if we delete system32 it will be live
  • SubscriberTwitch Primeluke6146: @Caltane Don't do it just cause im smarter than them
  • SubscriberTwitch PrimeMRIamsosmrt: @bs_mods oh you're right :D
  • rasj001: live in sourth korea: 9G mobile connection. lol
  • frossaren is now banned from this room.
  • ModeratorCaltane: I will but they probably won't @ScienceRedstoneMC
  • Twitch PrimeZelmatrix: Alt f4 will work too. Actually do not do that
  • Twitch PrimeCynful521: Silly boys are never on time.
  • SubscriberTwitch Primeluke6146: @TheJrock_ Its ur fault for falling for it twice
  • WhiskeyOmega Blames Caltane
Edit: Mod cleared it. Bot went savage for some reason
Edited by Frossaren

 Asus maximus hero vii

I7 4770k at 4.5 ghz watercooled

2x gtx 980 watercooled

16 gb corsair dominator platinum

black inwin 909 

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On 2017-06-03 at 3:18 AM, Sukhman said:

why did u ban me


Some mod seemes to have started missclicking alot. I also got randomly banned

Edit: Got mine cleared by mod now. Bot went savage for some reason

Edited by Frossaren

 Asus maximus hero vii

I7 4770k at 4.5 ghz watercooled

2x gtx 980 watercooled

16 gb corsair dominator platinum

black inwin 909 

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