Mini ITX Build

[DebatED Nothing]

This is my current working parts list, I don't really want to spend more than £1500 on this PC. How does it look?

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VDjnqk
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/VDjnqk/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£299.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (£75.95 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: ASRock H270M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£110.60 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (£113.99 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£134.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW DT GAMING Video Card  (£505.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Case: Fractal Design Core 500 Mini ITX Desktop Case  (£48.72 @ Ebuyer) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£86.80 @ Alza) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit  (£99.49 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £1475.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[MVPernula]

I honestly don't want to correct anything.. BUt I'd like to question the D15!

The Noctua D15 is AMAZING, don't get me wrong.

 

But you've chosen one of the biggest aircoolers in a mITX chassi, make sure it fits.

If it fits you're golden

[DebatED Nothing]

Just now, MVPernula said:

I honestly don't want to correct anything.. BUt I'd like to question the D15!

The Noctua D15 is AMAZING, don't get me wrong.

 

But you've chosen one of the biggest aircoolers in an mITX chassi, make sure it fits.

If it fits you're golden

According to PC part picker it -should- fit but that is a concern. I could always return it and get something more low profile if it doesn't I guess.

[tom_w141]

@DebatED Nothing

 

What about this? Absolute mini powerhouse

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£262.74 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B250I PRO Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£83.01 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (£113.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£73.94 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Black 1TB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£64.99 @ More Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founder Edition Video Card  (£681.08 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Node 202 HTPC Case  (£71.20 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply  (£80.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  (£25.00)
Total: £1491.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-05 13:40 BST+0100

 

Non K CPU because mini itx build and heat issues with the 7700k are bad in any build. Here is Intel's advice "don't overclock your 7700k to keep temps down". I'd liked to have put a R5 1600 in there for you as its a far better option than dropping to an i5 and doesn't have thermal issues. 1080Ti is an upgrade ofc and blower style because mini itx build.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[DebatED Nothing]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

@DebatED Nothing

 

What about this? Absolute mini powerhouse

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£262.74 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B250I PRO Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£83.01 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (£113.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£73.94 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Western Digital Black 1TB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£64.99 @ More Computers)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founder Edition Video Card  (£681.08 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Fractal Design Node 202 HTPC Case  (£71.20 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply  (£80.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  (£25.00)
Total: £1491.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-05 13:40 BST+0100

 

 

That's a pretty sick build however I'm not sold on the 202 because it doesn't accept 3.5" drives and I have a few decently fast high capacity drives I'd want to keep.

[Blackhole890]

the only thing that i'd change is the motherboard since you have an unlocked cpu and with the actual one, you can't be able to overclock, also the noctua is pretty big and if you're sure that this cooler will fit in that case, then go for it

[Bazilias]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£299.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (£37.82 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£96.85 @ More Computers) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£118.39 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£129.60 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card  (£666.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case  (£59.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£68.80 @ Alza) 
Total: £1478.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-05 13:42 BST+0100

[Blackhole890]

1 minute ago, RaptorCandy said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£299.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (£37.82 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£96.85 @ More Computers) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£118.39 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£129.60 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card  (£666.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case  (£59.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£68.80 @ Alza) 
Total: £1478.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-05 13:42 BST+0100

 

1 minute ago, Blackhole890 said:

the only thing that i'd change is the motherboard since you have an unlocked cpu and with the actual one, you can't be able to overclock, also the noctua is pretty big and if you're sure that this cooler will fit in that case, then go for it

 

[DebatED Nothing]

1 minute ago, RaptorCandy said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£299.94 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (£37.82 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: MSI B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£96.85 @ More Computers) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (1 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£118.39 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£129.60 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founders Edition Video Card  (£666.90 @ Alza) 
Case: Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ITX Mini ITX Tower Case  (£59.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£68.80 @ Alza) 
Total: £1478.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-05 13:42 BST+0100

Not a fan of the EVOLV myself, it's too big.

[tom_w141]

2 minutes ago, DebatED Nothing said:

That's a pretty sick build however I'm not sold on the 202 because it doesn't accept 3.5" drives and I have a few decently fast high capacity drives I'd want to keep.

Sorry was going for smallest form factor possible. will readjust and exclude HDD as you have 1. Also see edits to post I made already.

[DebatED Nothing]

1 minute ago, Blackhole890 said:

 

 

Didn't realise the motherboard issue, is the one recommended by RaptorCandy okay on that front?

[tom_w141]

3 minutes ago, DebatED Nothing said:

Didn't realise the motherboard issue, is the one recommended by RaptorCandy okay on that front?

Done.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£262.74 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B250I PRO Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£83.01 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  (£113.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: SK hynix SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£73.94 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For £0.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB Founder Edition Video Card  (£681.08 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Silverstone RVZ02B-W HTPC Case  (£94.80 @ Alza)
Power Supply: Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply  (£80.47 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  (£25.00)
Total: £1450.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-05 13:48 BST+0100

 

EDIT: Also note my builds are the only ones to include win10 licences. These are OEM keys from kinguin and are legit. I have 2 on different machines that are in service for over 1 year each. The only drawback is they bind to the motherboard so if you upgrade your motherboard you need a new key, still very good value for £25.

[Mooshi]

16 minutes ago, MVPernula said:

I honestly don't want to correct anything.. BUt I'd like to question the D15!

The Noctua D15 is AMAZING, don't get me wrong.

 

But you've chosen one of the biggest aircoolers in a mITX chassi, make sure it fits.

If it fits you're golden

I have this case and a D15 would fit with little effort so long as you don't have a fan mounted above it. 

 

In my setup, I use a smaller H7 and a 140mm Venturi fan above it to act as intake and it juuuust works with a few mm to spare lol

[tom_w141]

6 minutes ago, DebatED Nothing said:

Didn't realise the motherboard issue, is the one recommended by RaptorCandy okay on that front?

To answer this question no you'd need to pair a Z270 board with a 7700K to enable overclocking. Though you should really give the forum post I linked a read as the 7700k has bad heat issues due to Intel cheaping out on the TIM, their official response is don't overclock (wow...)

 

Z270 mini itx boards carry quite a premium:

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=119&f=8

[Castdeath97]

14 minutes ago, tom_w141 said:

Non K CPU because mini itx build and heat issues with the 7700k are bad in any build. Here is Intel's advice "don't overclock your 7700k to keep temps down". I'd liked to have put a R5 1600 in there for you as its a far better option than dropping to an i5 and doesn't have thermal issues. 1080Ti is an upgrade ofc and blower style because mini itx build.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Keep in mind even stock to stock the i7 7700K is tad faster, particularly in base speeds (and hence can clock higher on all cores).

[DebatED Nothing]

1 minute ago, Castdeath97 said:

Keep in mind even stock to stock the i7 7700K is tad faster, particularly in base speeds (and hence can clock higher on all cores).

realistically, would I notice that in gaming? I don't really do any hard core workload stuff, the closest I guess would be using Inventor and the occasional bit of "video editing" (pretty much just cutting highlights from recordings).

[tom_w141]

Just now, Castdeath97 said:

Keep in mind even stock to stock the i7 7700K is tad faster, particularly in base speeds (and hence can clock higher on all cores).

True but in these small cases heat can become an issue so to ensure it will be ok in a small case with a small cooler I went for 7700 but OP is welcome to put the 7700k in and not overclock.  Though an non overclocked 7700k is a bit of an expensive waste as there is not that much difference between a 7700 and a 7700k at base clocks.

[tom_w141]

1 minute ago, DebatED Nothing said:

realistically, would I notice that in gaming? I don't really do any hard core workload stuff, the closest I guess would be using Inventor and the occasional bit of "video editing" (pretty much just cutting highlights from recordings).

No and if you did it'd only be on a >120Hz high refresh rate monitor. If you play at 60Hz, 1440p or 4k then no because the GPU will be pushed to the limits instead of the CPU.

 

Personally I'd go for the 7700 as it will run cooler and you won't see a performance degradation unless 1080p high refresh rate is your thing. Ultimately I'd suggest an R5 1600 or an R7 1700 but AM4 mini itx motherboards are not here yet so if you must build now then it has to be an i7 of some sort because the 4 core/4 thread i5 is very bad value in 2017. 

[DebatED Nothing]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

No and if you did it'd only be on a >120Hz high refresh rate monitor. If you play at 60Hz, 1440p or 4k then no because the GPU will be pushed to the limits instead of the CPU

That's another question, would this build work on a 144hz 1440p monitor or would that be stretching it too far? I've never tried anything beyond 1080p60 so I'm not really familiar with the horses needed to get that to chooch.

[tom_w141]

5 minutes ago, DebatED Nothing said:

That's another question, would this build work on a 144hz 1440p monitor or would that be stretching it too far? I've never tried anything beyond 1080p60 so I'm not really familiar with the horses needed to get that to chooch.

Yes the 1080Ti is very capable of that on ultra settings and so is a 7700. My 6700k was fine at 144Hz, I had a K model yes but kaby lake is faster at stock than skylake.

 

EDIT: To be honest in my personal opinion the difference between 60-100 fps is game changing but I personally don't see any changes over 120. So right now I use a 1440p ultrawide (3440x1440) and my 1070 is able to run that at or near its 100Hz maximum in triple A titles on ultra/high settings. If a 1070 can cope then a 1080Ti can smash it  also my monitor is g-sync which is beautiful and frame drops are far less noticeable because of the adaptive scaling

[DebatED Nothing]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

 

Okay, thanks.

[tom_w141]

Just now, DebatED Nothing said:

Okay, thanks.

See above edit ^

[DebatED Nothing]

1 minute ago, tom_w141 said:

See above edit ^

Do you have a link to that monitor?

[tom_w141]

Just now, DebatED Nothing said:

Do you have a link to that monitor?

sure  it wasn't cheap though sorry  though well worth it imo

 

https://www.asus.com/uk/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-SWIFT-PG348Q/

[Castdeath97]

12 minutes ago, DebatED Nothing said:

realistically, would I notice that in gaming? I don't really do any hard core workload stuff, the closest I guess would be using Inventor and the occasional bit of "video editing" (pretty much just cutting highlights from recordings).

The problem is reviews have a habit of never benchmarkering the 7700, so I don't really know how much of a difference it would make.

 

If anyone finds a benchmark for the 7700 just tell me.