Difference between MSI X99S XPOWER AC and Godlike Gaming X99

[Bajantechnician]

What are the differences between the X99 Godlike gaming motherboard and the X99S XPower AC Motherboard?

 

So

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130792&cm_re=MSI_X99S_XPOWER_AC-_-13-130-792-_-Product

vs

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130878&cm_re=godlike_gaming-_-13-130-878-_-Product

 

thanks.\

also, no price budget/limiation

[Lays]

That version of the XPower doesn't have OC socket, the Godlike board does I believe.

If you already have the Godlike board in your signature, does that mean you already own it? If so, why are you asking?

[dragoon20005]

MSI Godlike Gaming uses Killer networkfor both Wifi and the dual LANs

 

Godlike also have RGB LEDs for the lighting effect

 

XPower uses Intel LAN

 

@Lays

 

actually both uses the OC socket design

 

the XPower mostly feature V check points for extreme LN2 OC

 

damn i like they bundle the delid die cover and mounts for LN2 pots

 

 

[dragoon20005]

@Bajantechnician

 

if you really hate Killer networking products

 

then stay away from the Godlike Gaming

[Bajantechnician]

44 minutes ago, Lays said:

That version of the XPower doesn't have OC socket, the Godlike board does I believe.

If you already have the Godlike board in your signature, does that mean you already own it? If so, why are you asking?

my godlike is broken, need to rma. not sure if i should sell the replacement/fixed godlike for the xpower + $170

36 minutes ago, dragoon20005 said:

MSI Godlike Gaming uses Killer networkfor both Wifi and the dual LANs

 

Godlike also have RGB LEDs for the lighting effect

 

XPower uses Intel LAN

 

@Lays

 

actually both uses the OC socket design

 

the XPower mostly feature V check points for extreme LN2 OC

 

damn i like they bundle the delid die cover and mounts for LN2 pots

 

 

whats better killer or intel?

i dont even use the mistic lighting, i leave it on static red, whichh is defult

 

delid?

oc socket?

27 minutes ago, dragoon20005 said:

@Bajantechnician

 

if you really hate Killer networking products

 

then stay away from the Godlike Gaming

is killer good?

or intel?

[dragoon20005]

1 minute ago, Bajantechnician said:

my godlike is broken, need to rma. not sure if i should sell the replacement/fixed godlike for the xpower + $170

whats better killer or intel?

i dont even use the mistic lighting, i leave it on static red, whichh is defult

 

delid?

oc socket?

is killer good?

or intel?

Intel LAN are miles better in reliability

 

https://www.msi.com/product/motherboard/X99S-XPOWER-AC.html#hero-overview

 

the Xpower Ac has a die cover when you have a delid CPU so it will hold it down firmly

 

if you OC a lot

 

then the XPower is the better and cheaper choice

[Bajantechnician]

Just now, dragoon20005 said:

Intel LAN are miles better in reliability

 

https://www.msi.com/product/motherboard/X99S-XPOWER-AC.html#hero-overview

 

the Xpower Ac has a die cover when you have a delid CPU so it will hold it down firmly

 

if you OC a lot

 

then the XPower is the better and cheaper choice

delid cpu?

OHHHH

you take the metal heatsink off the cpu?

the lid part?

 

can i use a aio watercooler for a delic cp?

kraken x61

is the intel one still 10/100/1000?

[Lays]

3 minutes ago, dragoon20005 said:

Intel LAN are miles better in reliability

 

https://www.msi.com/product/motherboard/X99S-XPOWER-AC.html#hero-overview

 

the Xpower Ac has a die cover when you have a delid CPU so it will hold it down firmly

 

if you OC a lot

 

then the XPower is the better and cheaper choice

You can't use the die cover on an x99 chip lol, they're soldered to the IHS.

 

I was wrong about OC socket thing, a lot of other companies were releasing 3.1 boards that had the socket to replace their old lineups that didn't have it, MSI was one of them I believe, but not on those boards.

 

Intel LAN really isn't "miles better", I've had experience with both on NEWER boards and the only problem I ever had with Killer networking was a memory leak with the driver, a quick google search fixed it.  Killer networking has came miles since the olden days when it first came out, it's MUCH better now.

[dragoon20005]

Just now, Bajantechnician said:

delid cpu?

OHHHH

you take the metal heatsink off the cpu?

the lid part?

 

can i use a aio watercooler for a delic cp?

kraken x61

is the intel one still 10/100/1000?

yes that is the lid or metal cap covering the actual CPU die

 

yes you can

 

yes it 1Gbps

[Bajantechnician]

Just now, Lays said:

You can't use the die cover on an x99 chip lol, they're soldered to the IHS.

 

I was wrong about OC socket thing, a lot of other companies were releasing 3.1 boards that had the socket to replace their old lineups that didn't have it, MSI was one of them I believe, but not on those boards.

 

Intel LAN really isn't "miles better", I've had experience with both and the only problem I ever had with Killer networking was a memory leak with the driver, a quick google search fixed it.  Killer networking has came miles since the olden days when it first came out, it's MUCH better now.

So... this board...does? had it?.....

 

so i cant delid it

Just now, dragoon20005 said:

yes that is the lid or metal cap covering the actual CPU die

 

yes you can

 

yes it 1Gbps

So is it worth it?

[Lays]

Just now, Bajantechnician said:

So... this board...does? had it?.....

 

so i cant delid it

So is it worth it?

No you don't delid X99 chips, the IHS is soldered onto the die, you'll kill the chip if you do it. Unless you are a professional with serious practice, don't try it.  These chips aren't like consumer ones where you can just take a razor to it.

 

The boards are very similar, if you can get the X Power and have $170 left over afterwards, then yeah go for it.

1 minute ago, dragoon20005 said:

yes that is the lid or metal cap covering the actual CPU die

 

yes you can

 

yes it 1Gbps

???????

 

You don't delid X99 chips, or this happens:

 

[dragoon20005]

2 minutes ago, Lays said:

You can't use the die cover on an x99 chip lol, they're soldered to the IHS.

 

I was wrong about OC socket thing, a lot of other companies were releasing 3.1 boards that had the socket to replace their old lineups that didn't have it, MSI was one of them I believe, but not on those boards.

 

Intel LAN really isn't "miles better", I've had experience with both on NEWER boards and the only problem I ever had with Killer networking was a memory leak with the driver, a quick google search fixed it.  Killer networking has came miles since the olden days when it first came out, it's MUCH better now.

you mean this?

 

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-core-i7-5960x-de-lidded-haswell-e-uses-soldered-tim,3.html

 

oh shoot nvr expect that

 

the reason for me hating Killer was the software aspect.

 

memory leaks and high CPU overheads causes more headaches to me when i have quite a number of users complaining of network dropping out.

 

[dragoon20005]

8 minutes ago, Lays said:

No you don't delid X99 chips, the IHS is soldered onto the die, you'll kill the chip if you do it. Unless you are a professional with serious practice, don't try it.  These chips aren't like consumer ones where you can just take a razor to it.

 

The boards are very similar, if you can get the X Power and have $170 left over afterwards, then yeah go for it.

???????

 

You don't delid X99 chips, or this happens:

 

i found this niffy product here

 

it claims to make delidding easier

 

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=148622

 

uses sheer sliding force to break the glue between the lid and the die

[Lays]

1 minute ago, dragoon20005 said:

i found this niffy product here

 

it claims to make delidding easier

 

http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=148622

 

uses sheer sliding force to break the glue between the lid and the die

 

Yes I know what it is, but that doesn't delid an X99 chip.

 

You do know what solder is right?  It's literally metal that basically melts into things to attach wires / components together etc.

 

Think of welding, the IHS is essentially welded to the die.

[dragoon20005]

Just now, Lays said:

 

Yes I know what it is, but that doesn't delid an X99 chip.

 

You do know what solder is right?  It's literally metal that basically melts into things to attach wires / components together etc.

 

Think of welding, the IHS is essentially welded to the die.

oh shit didnt think of that

[Schoolofmonkey]

Holy crap MSI have a lot to answer for, promoting deliding on a x99 chip how stupid.

The thread got a little scary there...lol

 

I challenge anyone to find a picture of a actual x99 chip delidded.

 

Personally I would stick the a RMA GODLIKE, it's a much better board and has USB 3.1, where the X99S Xpower only has USB 3 and no OC Socket.

The MSI x99a Xpower AC has USB 3.1, removed the advertising of delidding and has the OC Socket.

[Bajantechnician]

7 hours ago, Lays said:

No you don't delid X99 chips, the IHS is soldered onto the die, you'll kill the chip if you do it. Unless you are a professional with serious practice, don't try it.  These chips aren't like consumer ones where you can just take a razor to it.

 

The boards are very similar, if you can get the X Power and have $170 left over afterwards, then yeah go for it.

???????

 

You don't delid X99 chips, or this happens:

 

Yeah. 

I saw that somewhere

7 hours ago, dragoon20005 said:

you mean this?

 

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-core-i7-5960x-de-lidded-haswell-e-uses-soldered-tim,3.html

 

oh shoot nvr expect that

 

the reason for me hating Killer was the software aspect.

 

memory leaks and high CPU overheads causes more headaches to me when i have quite a number of users complaining of network dropping out.

 

So..... Killer is bad.. 

6 hours ago, Schoolofmonkey said:

Holy crap MSI have a lot to answer for, promoting deliding on a x99 chip how stupid.

The thread got a little scary there...lol

 

I challenge anyone to find a picture of a actual x99 chip delidded.

 

Personally I would stick the a RMA GODLIKE, it's a much better board and has USB 3.1, where the X99S Xpower only has USB 3 and no OC Socket.

The MSI x99a Xpower AC has USB 3.1, removed the advertising of delidding and has the OC Socket.

So the godlike is better? Oc socket isn't on the xpower?

[Schoolofmonkey]

16 minutes ago, Bajantechnician said:

So the godlike is better? Oc socket isn't on the xpower?

 

Only on the X99A version of the XPOWER, but even then the GODLIKE is the better premium board.

I'd own one, if I'd had the extra $$$ at the time I wouldn't of got my x99a Gaming 7 board and went with the GODLIKE.

[Bajantechnician]

53 minutes ago, Schoolofmonkey said:

 

Only on the X99A version of the XPOWER, but even then the GODLIKE is the better premium board.

I'd own one, if I'd had the extra $$$ at the time I wouldn't of got my x99a Gaming 7 board and went with the GODLIKE.

What are the differences?

And what is the of socket for?

[Bajantechnician]

2 hours ago, Schoolofmonkey said:

 

Only on the X99A version of the XPOWER, but even then the GODLIKE is the better premium board.

I'd own one, if I'd had the extra $$$ at the time I wouldn't of got my x99a Gaming 7 board and went with the GODLIKE.

Also, what's better about the godlike. I'm sure it's better. But I'm not sure u use all of its features. Can you have me some reasons why the godlike is more suited for my needs. 

Thanks

[Schoolofmonkey]

3 hours ago, Bajantechnician said:

Also, what's better about the godlike. I'm sure it's better. But I'm not sure u use all of its features. Can you have me some reasons why the godlike is more suited for my needs. 

Thanks

 

You've never really outlined what your needs were, but in the scheme of MSI motherboards the MSI GODLIKE is like the ASUS Rampage.

Now here's the but, if you're looking for second to none x99 boards the Asus x99a Deluxe or Rampage are the boards to look at over MSI.

 

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/09/03/x99a_godlike_gaming_lga_2011v3_motherboard_review/7#.Vs-GQZx96Hs

[Bajantechnician]

3 hours ago, Schoolofmonkey said:

 

You've never really outlined what your needs were, but in the scheme of MSI motherboards the MSI GODLIKE is like the ASUS Rampage.

Now here's the but, if you're looking for second to none x99 boards the Asus x99a Deluxe or Rampage are the boards to look at over MSI.

 

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/09/03/x99a_godlike_gaming_lga_2011v3_motherboard_review/7#.Vs-GQZx96Hs

I wanna sstick with msi

[Bajantechnician]

3 hours ago, Schoolofmonkey said:

 

You've never really outlined what your needs were, but in the scheme of MSI motherboards the MSI GODLIKE is like the ASUS Rampage.

Now here's the but, if you're looking for second to none x99 boards the Asus x99a Deluxe or Rampage are the boards to look at over MSI.

 

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/09/03/x99a_godlike_gaming_lga_2011v3_motherboard_review/7#.Vs-GQZx96Hs

normal computing, ocing with aois, maybe custom watercool in the future.

[Schoolofmonkey]

1 hour ago, Bajantechnician said:

normal computing, ocing with aois, maybe custom watercool in the future.

 

If sticking with MSI still go the GODLIKE, it's newer, has reinforced PCIe sockets, RGB light (if it's your thing.), wireless lan, USB 3.1 type C, in the end both boards are going to overclock fine, heck with the right CPU my MSI x99a Gaming 7 will do 4.6Ghz on a 5820k  (mine cpu sucks and only does 4.3Ghz, but I tested with my mates to make sure it isn't the board)

 

I know people knock the killer nic, but I've never had a problem with it, though I don't use the Killer software package just the stand alone driver.

 

What's actually wrong with yours?

[Bajantechnician]

31 minutes ago, Schoolofmonkey said:

 

If sticking with MSI still go the GODLIKE, it's newer, has reinforced PCIe sockets, RGB light (if it's your thing.), wireless lan, USB 3.1 type C, in the end both boards are going to overclock fine, heck with the right CPU my MSI x99a Gaming 7 will do 4.6Ghz on a 5820k  (mine cpu sucks and only does 4.3Ghz, but I tested with my mates to make sure it isn't the board)

 

I know people knock the killer nic, but I've never had a problem with it, though I don't use the Killer software package just the stand alone driver.

 

What's actually wrong with yours?

arrived with bent pins