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Posted · Original PosterOP

Would you like to cite that for us nay-sayers? I'm not seeing it, truly.

Do you understand what an operating system is composed of? I assumed a Linux user would, but perhaps not.

 

The GUI and application API are minor, minor parts of the OS. The biggest pieces of it are the kernel and the stack with user land utilities above that. These are all open source on OS X. The kernel is open, there's a kernel dev kit. The networking stack is taken from FreeBSD. The kernel is a hybrid microkernel composed of the BSD kernel and Mach kernel, known as XNU. 

 

http://superuser.com/questions/19492/is-mac-os-x-open-source

 

The underlying components are nearly all open source. Darwin is a complete operating system that forms the core of OS X. To cook up a yummy batch of OS X cookies, Apple takes their latest (open) Darwin release, puts their latest (proprietary) versions of the Cocoa API, Aqua, and Quartz Compositor/Quicktime into it. 

No, it's not completely open source. It takes the best parts of open source development and puts a nice GUI and API on top of them. It's far more open than Windows is and while it's not all the way to being Linux, it's still mostly open source. The fact that you can fork Darwin means it's very open. It runs off an open source core that has been forked and that anyone can use. Very few people who know what they're talking about would consider the GUI to be any large part of the operating system as a whole. Darwin, however, is.


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Do you understand what an operating system is composed of? I assumed a Linux user would, but perhaps not.

 

The GUI and application API are minor, minor parts of the OS. The biggest pieces of it are the kernel and the stack with user land utilities above that. These are all open source on OS X. The kernel is open, there's a kernel dev kit. The networking stack is taken from FreeBSD. The kernel is a hybrid microkernel composed of the BSD kernel and Mach kernel, known as XNU. 

 

http://superuser.com/questions/19492/is-mac-os-x-open-source

 

The underlying components are nearly all open source. Darwin is a complete operating system that forms the core of OS X. To cook up a yummy batch of OS X cookies, Apple takes their latest (open) Darwin release, puts their latest (proprietary) versions of the Cocoa API, Aqua, and Quartz Compositor/Quicktime into it. 

No, it's not completely open source. It takes the best parts of open source development and puts a nice GUI and API on top of them. It's far more open than Windows is and while it's not all the way to being Linux, it's still mostly open source. The fact that you can fork Darwin means it's very open. It runs off an open source core that has been forked and that anyone can use. Very few people who know what they're talking about would consider the GUI to be any large part of the operating system as a whole. Darwin, however, is.

I think you're having trouble understanding how an operating system actually works. Either that, or you're knowingly full of yourself because this is garbage.

 

Try writing a GUI application in C and you'll be whining for the old days of console programming. Everyone does.


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Yeah but almost the entire thing is open source...there's maybe 20-30% closed source components in it.

 

 How can you classify 70-80% as "almost the entire thing"? I would expect at least 90% or more. And how did you come up with that anyway?

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I think you're having trouble understanding how an operating system actually works. Either that, or you're knowingly full of yourself because this is garbage.

 

Try writing a GUI application in C and you'll be whining for the old days of console programming. Everyone does.

Yeah no shit it's tough writing a GUI application in C. Why do you think GNOME exists?

 

I know how operating systems work. I was grossly oversimplifying it so you could understand because so far saying "open source kernel" and "open source core" hasn't meant anything to you.


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Yeah no shit it's tough writing a GUI application in C. Why do you think GNOME exists?

 

I know how operating systems work. I was grossly oversimplifying it so you could understand because so far saying "open source kernel" and "open source core" hasn't meant anything to you.

Speaking in tongues is rather redundant when you don't have to, don't you think?

 

I honestly didn't even read the trash in the majority of your post, because it's neither here nor there. Mac OS X is an overrestrictive plaything and Windows only wins by default because businesses. It's a lot more straightforward writing for UNIX-like OSes because... I dunno, it's not ass-backwards?

 

I'm so frightened by your moonspeak, oooh... okay. Apple bends the phrase "open source" so fanboys like you have a leg to stand on and babble about. Cool.

 

I've written a kernel before, isn't that cool? Aren't I special? Working with assembly and making drivers for everything under the sun sure did take some effort. You can't plug GNOME into that, lol.


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I honestly didn't even read the trash in the majority of your post, because it's neither here nor there. Mac OS X is an overrestrictive plaything and Windows only wins by default because businesses. It's a lot more straightforward writing for UNIX-like OSes because... I dunno, it's not ass-backwards?

 

I'm so frightened by your moonspeak, oooh... okay. Apple bends the phrase "open source" so fanboys like you have a leg to stand on and babble about. Cool.

 

I've written a kernel before, isn't that cool? Aren't I special? Working with assembly and making drivers for everything under the sun sure did take some effort. You can't plug GNOME into that, lol.

OS X is UNIX-like. It's SUS compliant FFS. 

 

I never even claimed that OS X is open source, only that it's composed of mostly open source components. I've proven this several times over to you so if you can't recognize that at this point it's your fault. Frankly you're not much of a UNIX user if you'd prefer Windows to OS X. 

 

Good for you, writing a kernel. What's your point here? It sounds like you're trying to make an appeal to authority.


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OS X is UNIX-like. It's SUS compliant FFS. 

 

I never even claimed that OS X is open source, only that it's composed of mostly open source components. I've proven this several times over to you so if you can't recognize that at this point it's your fault. Frankly you're not much of a UNIX user if you'd prefer Windows to OS X. 

 

Good for you, writing a kernel. What's your point here? It sounds like you're trying to make an appeal to authority.

It's a hell of a lot more work than taking an online class to get certified as an Apache committer, so I've kind of ousted you there.

 

Well, it seems your argument has fallen apart here - OS X is closed source and whether it's composed of "mostly open source" code or not is neither here nor there. Windows wins because it's about as flexible as any closed source OS is going to get - where's Mac OS X standing in that realm?

 

Besides, Windows is set apart from the rest of the software industry in that it's completely different from the rest of the UNIX and UNIX-based operating systems. Don't you think it'd be more fair to make an original idea proprietary rather than jacking someone else's idea (UNIX) and branding it your own (OS X) as some other thing that's only UNIX-based at one's convenience?


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Windows and OSX are just as closed: OSX used to require different hardware (made by apple/Motorola) but now that they use the same components as  windows machines they are pretty much equal in terms of being open. There are still very low level stuff that developers aren't allowed to play with on OSX or Windows.

 

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OS X is very much open source. There's a whole kernel development kit. The software is open source up to the GUI and application framework, (Cocoa) which was at one point open source too. Have you read the OP at all? Like, at all?

OS X is UNIX-like. It's SUS compliant FFS. 

 

I never even claimed that OS X is open source, only that it's composed of mostly open source components. I've proven this several times over to you so if you can't recognize that at this point it's your fault. Frankly you're not much of a UNIX user if you'd prefer Windows to OS X. 

 

Good for you, writing a kernel. What's your point here? It sounds like you're trying to make an appeal to authority.

 

Yes, you did say OS X is open source...

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Yes, you did say OS X is open source...

What does "very much" mean to you? To me it means mostly...


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What does "very much" mean to you? To me it means mostly...

Very much means I'm trying to say something without really saying it... it's a lawyer thing really. "Welllllll, I said mostly..." it's like the cable companies selling you "up to" a certain speed. You know what you said.


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Very much means I'm trying to say something without really saying it... it's a lawyer thing really. "Welllllll, I said mostly..." it's like the cable companies selling you "up to" a certain speed. You know what you said.

No, I genuinely don't understand what you're unhappy about here. Seriously. What's open source and what isn't is strongly based on perspective. This isn't clearer than with the FSF, they don't consider software to be truly free until it's licensed under some form of the GPL. The OpenBSD developers don't consider it open source unless it has all of the binary blobs removed. Debian has binary blobs in it, believe it or not, so #! is not entirely open source. You're probably running several proprietary drivers in fact. 

 

From now on I'll only let you say #! is mostly open source because from your point of view that's what it is.


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No, I genuinely don't understand what you're unhappy about here. Seriously. What's open source and what isn't is strongly based on perspective. This isn't clearer than with the FSF, they don't consider software to be truly free until it's licensed under some form of the GPL. The OpenBSD developers don't consider it open source unless it has all of the binary blobs removed. Debian has binary blobs in it, believe it or not, so #! is not entirely open source. You're probably running several proprietary drivers in fact. 

 

From now on I'll only let you say #! is mostly open source because from your point of view that's what it is.

Haha, #! isn't a kiddy toy designed for paraprofessional wannabes. I'm rather productive on it, would you like to see? There's so much efficiency and customization ability on this OS and the hardware I'm using is a netbook from 2004. That's right, I'm using decade-old hardware and #! is seamless - show me a Mac that can pull that off, will you? Oh, and some copyleft licensing along with it. I can legally and freely do whatever the hell I want to this software with just a little attribution and licensing compatibility. Can your Mac OS X do that?


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Haha, #! isn't a kiddy toy designed for paraprofessional wannabes. I'm rather productive on it, would you like to see? There's so much efficiency and customization ability on this OS and the hardware I'm using is a netbook from 2004. That's right, I'm using decade-old hardware and #! is seamless - show me a Mac that can pull that off, will you? Oh, and some copyleft licensing along with it. I can legally and freely do whatever the hell I want to this software with just a little attribution and licensing compatibility. Can your Mac OS X do that?

Funny you should mention that because I'm actually using my 2004 PowerBook G4 at the moment...OS X is very seamless.

 

If you consider most of Silicon Valley to be full of paraprofessional wannabes (like those wankers at Google, what the fuck are they all doing using Macs?) then sure. 

 

I'm glad you like the customizability and "freedom." I honestly don't care for all that myself that I go out of the way to use it. I do run Linux though as I've said before. I'd say I have better things to do than argue over software licensing and the definition of FOSS with 1337 linux hacker fanboys over the internet but, well...


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What does "very much" mean to you? To me it means mostly...

 

To me, it can mean either that or indeed. From context, it sounded like you were affirming that it was open-source, but now I can see how you could have meant mostly.

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Funny you should mention that because I'm actually using my 2004 PowerBook G4 at the moment...OS X is very seamless.

 

If you consider most of Silicon Valley to be full of paraprofessional wannabes (like those wankers at Google, what the fuck are they all doing using Macs?) then sure. 

 

I'm glad you like the customizability and "freedom." I honestly don't care for all that myself that I go out of the way to use it. I do run Linux though as I've said before. I'd say I have better things to do than argue over software licensing and the definition of FOSS with 1337 linux hacker fanboys over the internet but, well...

Editing an XML file is soooo harrrrrrrddd... What version of OS X are you running on that clunker? Tell me it's something released within the past two years.

 

What Google does is an enigma to any of us, but honestly I don't see them being productive on My First Computer™ setups with the things the corporation makes. Their offices likely run Windows like every other office in the universe and their servers run their own Linux distribution. I could be wrong about their office computers as those may run Linux as well - I've worked in federal environments (with the Army and VA Dept.) who have those PCs running Linux over WinNT. I seriously see Windows tanking in the future and as the IT industry matures more systems admins moving organizations towards Linux, personally. That's just me, though.


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What Google does is an enigma to any of us, but honestly I don't see them being productive on My First Computer™ setups with the things the corporation makes. Their offices likely run Windows like every other office in the universe and their servers run their own Linux distribution. I could be wrong about their office computers as those may run Linux as well - I've worked in federal environments (with the Army and VA Dept.) who have those PCs running Linux over WinNT. I seriously see Windows tanking in the future and as the IT industry matures more systems admins moving organizations towards Linux, personally. That's just me, though.

No, their developers run whatever they choose to, because that's the way it should be. That the majority of them choose Macs must come as a shock to you but OS X is very popular among devs in Silicon Valley.

 

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No, their developers run whatever they choose to, because that's the way it should be. That the majority of them choose Macs must come as a shock to you but OS X is very popular among devs in Silicon Valley.

 

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Cool, a testimonial from a Google dev who's also an Apple fanboy. Do you mind giving me any information validly unveiling actual office statistics within Google's developer population?


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Cool, a testimonial from a Google dev who's also an Apple fanboy. Do you mind giving me any information validly unveiling actual office statistics within Google's developer population?

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/31/google-to-employees-mac-or-linux-but-no-more-windows/

 

http://bgr.com/2013/11/28/mac-chromebook-google-employees/

 

They're basically Mac only at this point actually. This is so hilarious! I didn't even realize. You're really fucked argumentation wise now.


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http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/31/google-to-employees-mac-or-linux-but-no-more-windows/

 

http://bgr.com/2013/11/28/mac-chromebook-google-employees/

 

They're basically Mac only at this point actually. This is so hilarious! I didn't even realize. You're really fucked argumentation wise now.

I'm sure that Google is implementing Macs because they're just such amazing computers with such top-notch software, mhmm. Business politics couldn't have been a consideration at all, right? Apple's just the final arbiter of IT and Google is simply submitting to their sheer amazingness, aren't they?

 

I know you really didn't apply all too much thought into that. Ooh, a piece of candy! At the moment Google's stock is going for well over five times Apple's, too. I'm so cornered, what am I to do?


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I'm sure that Google is implementing Macs because they're just such amazing computers with such top-notch software, mhmm. Business politics couldn't have been a consideration at all, right? Apple's just the final arbiter of IT and Google is simply submitting to their sheer amazingness, aren't they?

 

I know you really didn't apply all too much thought into that. Ooh, a piece of candy! At the moment Google's stock is going for well over five times Apple's, too. I'm so cornered, what am I to do?

Here's where you get really desperate. Apple's stock isn't going for less. They underwent a seven way split like four months ago.

 

You're just moving the goalposts now.

 

What Google does is an enigma to any of us, but honestly I don't see them being productive on My First Computer™ setups with the things the corporation makes. Their offices likely run Windows like every other office in the universe and their servers run their own Linux distribution. I could be wrong about their office computers as those may run Linux as well - I've worked in federal environments (with the Army and VA Dept.) who have those PCs running Linux over WinNT.

Do you mind giving me any information validly unveiling actual office statistics within Google's developer population?

Yep. I did.

 

I'm sure that Google is implementing Macs because they're just such amazing computers with such top-notch software, mhmm. Business politics couldn't have been a consideration at all, right? Apple's just the final arbiter of IT and Google is simply submitting to their sheer amazingness, aren't they?

So that's the standard now, is it? I'm sure they'd switch their entire tens of thousands of employee workforce over to Mac because of "business politics."

 

Here's a quote from one of Eric Schmidt's G+ posts:

Interestingly, Google’s chairman Eric Schmidt acknowledged the superiority of Apple’s Macs over PCs in a recent thorough guide for moving from iPhone to Android, actually comparing Android devices with Macs. “Like the people who moved from PCs to Macs and never switched back,” Schmidt wrote on Google+, “you will switch from iPhone to Android and never switch back.”

 

Google apparently went Mac for security: http://appleinsider.com/articles/10/06/01/security_concerns_prompt_google_to_switch_from_windows_to_mac


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Here's where you get really desperate. Apple's stock isn't going for less. They underwent a seven way split like four months ago.

 

You're just moving the goalposts now.

 

Yep. I did.

 

So that's the standard now, is it? I'm sure they'd switch their entire tens of thousands of employee workforce over to Mac because of "business politics."

 

Here's a quote from one of Eric Schmidt's G+ posts:

 

 

 

Google apparently went Mac for security: http://appleinsider.com/articles/10/06/01/security_concerns_prompt_google_to_switch_from_windows_to_mac

Gee, uh... I'm the one moving the goalposts? Are you kidding me? Who the hell is Google? They're a search engine, right? Not the God's Heavenly IT Department, correct? GOOG and AAPL are both on the NASDAQ and selling for exactly what I said, right?

 

You're so cute. Google, ha, hah... Mac OS X is still a kiddy toy at the end of the day, and good luck working on it. It's a shit OS for the tech-illiterate. If Google wants to have their IT department run My First Computers, that's their decision.

 

You've never worked in business before, have you? Damn right something like that would happen at the drop of a hat over politics. You're fucking kidding me if you want to pretend that that's somehow farfetch'd.


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You're so cute. Google, ha, hah... Mac OS X is still a kiddy toy at the end of the day, and good luck working on it. It's a shit OS for the tech-illiterate. If Google wants to have their IT department run My First Computers, that's their decision.

If there's one thing I hate more than stupid people it's holier-than-thou Linux users. If that's your opinion fine. It's not supported by evidence (most of Silicon Valley runs on Macs) but if you want to believe it then fine. 

 

I use Linux too. You act as if there's something magically more hardcore about it. Perhaps you're one of those Gentoo ricers? No, wait, you use #!. What's that? A Debian install with OpenBox? Great. I'm sure you're proud of your "achievement." Using Linux doesn't make you special. I use Linux. I'm far from special.


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If there's one thing I hate more than stupid people it's holier-than-thou Linux users. If that's your opinion fine. It's not supported by evidence (most of Silicon Valley runs on Macs) but if you want to believe it then fine. 

 

I use Linux too. You act as if there's something magically more hardcore about it. Perhaps you're one of those Gentoo ricers? No, wait, you use #!. What's that? A Debian install with OpenBox? Great. I'm sure you're proud of your "achievement." Using Linux doesn't make you special. I use Linux. I'm far from special.

Here lies the Maccie, ranting and raving

His OS is the best, it goes without saying

Windows is stupid and Linux is hard

He's acting like a mental retard

 

Here lies the Maccie, his mind so closed

Kind of like his special source code

Macs run UNIX, but only at the letter

A pretty name doesn't make it all too much better

 

Here lies the Maccie, his efforts so frantic

"Everyone's just giving me all of these antics!"

Why won't people stop telling him it's useless

I've done so much in Photoshop and... what else?

 

Here lies the Maccie, cold and alone

His only company being all the other Applian drones

He just doesn't want to hear the reality that

His OS is shit, and that's about that

 

This thread in a nutshell tbh. Peace the fuck out.


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Here lies the Maccie, ranting and raving

His OS is the best, it goes without saying

Windows is stupid and Linux is hard

He's acting like a mental retard

 

Here lies the Maccie, his mind so closed

Kind of like his special source code

Macs run UNIX, but only at the letter

A pretty name doesn't make it all too much better

 

Here lies the Maccie, his efforts so frantic

"Everyone's just giving me all of these antics!"

Why won't people stop telling him it's useless

I've done so much in Photoshop and... what else?

 

Here lies the Maccie, cold and alone

His only company being all the other Applian drones

He just doesn't want to hear the reality that

His OS is shit, and that's about that

 

This thread in a nutshell tbh. Peace the fuck out.

Actually that entire thing is the polar opposite of what I've said so far but whatever. I like the effort you spent writing the poem. Perhaps you'd be better off writing poetry than posting here because even when I say Linux is easier to use than you claim and that tons of tech literate people run Macs you still don't believe me.

 

I don't even use Photoshop that often. I'm mainly a developer. The fact that you're an asshole doesn't change any of this. Quite frankly the entire time you've been trying to prove that OS X isn't used by anyone serious about code and if I'm not proof enough and Google and Silicon Valley aren't proof enough then I don't know what is.


"You have got to be the biggest asshole on this forum..."

-GingerbreadPK

sudo rm -rf /

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