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9900K, Z390 RAM compatibility

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi all,

 

So my first post!

 

I have very tall Corsair RAM and a compact ATX case (Fractal Design Define C). The RAM rules out any tower coolers and it even conflict to some degree with a top mounted 240mm AIO. The radiator presses against RAM corners and I feel uncomfortable with that. I don't want to mount the cooler in the front. I'm thinking about replacing the RAM then with low profile sticks. My current RAM is 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance 3000, CL15 which is nice but since I'm going to (probably) replace it I might as well go for an upgrade. I have my eyes on Corsair Vengeance 3600, CL14:

 

RAM on Amazon

 

But I wonder if it will work with a 9900K (OC all cores at 5GHz) on a Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro WiFi . The board officially supports 3600 and the Corsair rep on Amazon said it "should" work with Z390, but I've read that the 9900K may be picky over anything above 3200. Any thoughts on this? Thanks a lot.

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9900k has no issues with 3600Mhz. Mine runs happily (maybe a little cranky) at 4000Mhz.


BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ Per Core 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.0Ghz, 5.0Ghz; Cache @ 4.8Ghz; 0 AVX offset
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 CL14 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-36
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Monitor: Dell S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165 Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: Corsair Scimitar Elite/MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, De-lidded
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X 4x4GB DDR3-2133 CL9 @ 2200Mhz 9-11-10-22
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Gaming ICX
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Monitor: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Curved Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: Rosewill RK 9000V2(Cherry MX Blue)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • Intel Core i7 6700 slightly under-volted
  • Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • iGPU
  • Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • External 120W Power Adaptor
  • 4K TV
  • Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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i had 3600c14 2x16gb running with my 9900k, 3800mhz was a no go with my z390 hero. does the define c not fit a d15s or dark rock pro 4? because 184 bucks for 2x8gb is the same price i paid for my 2x16gb b die


topics i need help on:

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my "oops i bought intel right before zen 3 releases" build

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Neither Dark Rock Pro 4 nor D15 will fit with this RAM. Imagine the tallest RAM Corsair ever made. The case though has enough space for either cooler. So I bought a Corsair liquid cooler, but yeah, even this is very tight.

 

It's expensive because it's CL14.

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3 hours ago, Internet Person said:

Neither Dark Rock Pro 4 nor D15 will fit with this RAM. Imagine the tallest RAM Corsair ever made. The case though has enough space for either cooler. So I bought a Corsair liquid cooler, but yeah, even this is very tight.

 

It's expensive because it's CL14.

B-dies are low CL. So you are both in the same boat, the difference being he bought his RAM for a really good price. Now here's something interesting. In this current build I started with TridenX 16gb CL14 (B-die), and than sold it and bought 32gb CL16. My benchmarks reported faster speeds afterwards. Not sure why, but I'd wager Asus bios plays better with Corsair RAM.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

OP here... So just a quick update. I decided against the Corsair 3600MHz, CL14. I couldn't justify nearly $400 for 4x8GB of CL14 RAM. I bought Crucial Ballistix Elite 3600MHz, CL16 instead which was $150 for 4x8GB. It runs at 3600 (XMP) as advertised and the computer is stable. I'm not going to overclock it, I've no clue how to overclock RAM.

 

I gained almost no performance but the slimmer profile allows my AIO to fit properly now without pressing against the memory sticks. My Geekbench 5 single thread score is the same but the multithread score gained almost 1000 points, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But anyway, I'm satisfied.

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8 minutes ago, Internet Person said:

I bought Crucial Ballistix Elite 3600MHz, CL16 instead

That's a good budget kit. Micron E-die afaik. I recommended it recently, and also frequently recommend to 2x8GB kit of it.

12 minutes ago, Internet Person said:

I've no clue how to overclock RAM.

This kit should be able to OC quite well. Memory overclocking can be a huge pain, but some people (me included) are masochistic enough to enjoy it. Here is a place to start in case you are interested:

 

 


BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ Per Core 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.2Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.1Ghz, 5.0Ghz, 5.0Ghz; Cache @ 4.8Ghz; 0 AVX offset
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 CL14 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-36
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Monitor: Dell S2417DG 23.8" 2560x1440 165 Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: Corsair Scimitar Elite/MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, De-lidded
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X 4x4GB DDR3-2133 CL9 @ 2200Mhz 9-11-10-22
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 Gaming ICX
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Monitor: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Curved Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: Rosewill RK 9000V2(Cherry MX Blue)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • Intel Core i7 6700 slightly under-volted
  • Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • iGPU
  • Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • External 120W Power Adaptor
  • 4K TV
  • Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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Posted · Original PosterOP

Yeah, according to some the Corsair 3600 CL14 is Samsung B-die but really, it is too expensive. I doubt I would see any significant performance gain with it either. Thanks for the link. Perhaps this weekend I'll give it a try!

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