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New Dell XPS battery only 300 rated cycles??!

19 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Seems like a damaged pipe on that unit as many other YouTubers seem to be reporting max thermals in high 80s or low 90s.

He says others have been replicating his findings too...

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Just now, Kilrah said:

He says others have been replicating his findings too...

Like I said, it's virtually impossible to hit anything higher than 106 as the laptop shuts down. Clearly evident by the Dell G5 where it maxes out at 105.6 with its horrid cooler. 112 would not be a reading as it would have shut down long before. Most certainly them using HWMonitor which applies a +20*C offset. Same with CpU-Z and Realtemp. Only HWiNFO and Ryzen Master will give accurate thermals. HWMonitor, for example, reports 135 on the Dell G5 but that's also impossible

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It's actually mentioned in the comments indeed, still IMO whether 92 or 100 it's basically the same thing, it's hot. The case temp measurements also aren't affected by software.

 

Apparently a BIOS update has reduced temps but by throttling more, so...

 

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DO NOT BUY THE 9500 OR ANY DELL. 

Do not believe reviewers, their sent cherry picked units to mislead you the consumer. 
There is massive engineering issues in the dells and yes the battery is rated for 300 cycles and will be dead after 2 years. 
Additionally, the current threads on reddit that have been given gold state the major customer service issues and quality issues. 

DO NOT BUY A DELL, spend the extra buy a Apple Mac, Surface or Lenovo. 

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7 hours ago, Kilrah said:

It's actually mentioned in the comments indeed, still IMO whether 92 or 100 it's basically the same thing, it's hot. The case temp measurements also aren't affected by software.

 

Apparently a BIOS update has reduced temps but by throttling more, so...

 

92 peak is fine as, in regular gaming, it's at 85-86. 100 peak is not good at all because you're in danger territory then.

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5 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

100 peak is not good at all because you're in danger territory then.

It's still below rated max, so no.

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21 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

It's still below rated max, so no.

It's above max safe so yes. As a rule of thumb on laptops - under 90*C if you want to keep the device for longer than a year or two.

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Apple laptops run at 100°C under any kind of load and don't die after 2 years.

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37 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Apple laptops run at 100°C under any kind of load and don't die after 2 years.

Quite a few of them do actually for. Most I've seen have heavy board warping around the CPU and GPU and that has caused something to fall apart due to the heat cycling of the solder. It's why Apple only offer a 1-year-warranty by default. If you run a MacBook at 100*C and heavy load often, it dies relatively quickly. Sat after 2-3 years in average.

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Strange that we never hear much about such damage, and Rossmann doesn't even mention that as a common failure. My macbook is 5 years old BTW, and has frequently been pinned to the max with its passive cooling that reaches 100°C literally anytime you're doing something and causes lots of thermal cycling.

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2 hours ago, Kilrah said:

Strange that we never hear much about such damage, and Rossmann doesn't even mention that as a common failure. My macbook is 5 years old BTW, and has frequently been pinned to the max with its passive cooling that reaches 100°C literally anytime you're doing something and causes lots of thermal cycling.

Rossmann mentions the thermals every other video and how they contributed to the failure of components around the board. The part that will fail is not the CPU itself, it's everything around it that also heats up as a result.

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