Looking at a new Build (AU)

[schnoodles]

Budget (including currency): $1700ishhhhh

Country:  Australia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Work, Minor Gaming, Virtualisation.

 

Looking at building a new machine to replace my old.

 

I really have no idea about hardware these days and would love some help. I was thinking about something along these lines

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/2nQRXv

 

Eventually I will update the memory to 32GB (Because I abuse my memory with work).

 

The things I am clueless on is.

 

1. Is 3600X worth it over the 3600.
2. Will that board allow me the next generation CPUs if i ever want to upgrade it
3. Is any 600W power supply fine
4. Do I need any extra fans

Would love any feedback.

 

[boggy77]

1. no, get the 3600

2. yes

3. no. check the psu tier list in my signature

4. yes

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$299.00 @ JW Computers
CPU Cooler	Deepcool Neptwin RGB 56.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$86.10 @ Amazon Australia
Motherboard	MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$178.00 @ I-Tech
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$265.10 @ Newegg Australia
Storage	Crucial P2 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO GAMING Video Card	$526.90 @ Device Deal
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.00 @ PCCaseGear
Power Supply	Gigabyte 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$148.00 @ I-Tech
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F14 PWM 77.3 CFM 140 mm Fan	$10.00 @ Skycomp Technology
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F14 PWM 77.3 CFM 140 mm Fan	$10.00 @ Skycomp Technology
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F14 PWM 77.3 CFM 140 mm Fan	$10.00 @ Skycomp Technology
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1741.10
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-28 18:33 AEST+1000

 

[schnoodles]

43 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

1. no, get the 3600

2. yes

3. no. check the psu tier list in my signature

4. yes

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$299.00 @ JW Computers
CPU Cooler	Deepcool Neptwin RGB 56.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$86.10 @ Amazon Australia
Motherboard	MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$178.00 @ I-Tech
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$265.10 @ Newegg Australia
Storage	Crucial P2 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO GAMING Video Card	$526.90 @ Device Deal
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.00 @ PCCaseGear
Power Supply	Gigabyte 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$148.00 @ I-Tech
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F14 PWM 77.3 CFM 140 mm Fan	$10.00 @ Skycomp Technology
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F14 PWM 77.3 CFM 140 mm Fan	$10.00 @ Skycomp Technology
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F14 PWM 77.3 CFM 140 mm Fan	$10.00 @ Skycomp Technology
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1741.10
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-28 18:33 AEST+1000

 

 

1. Any reason why you opt for the 3600 over the 3600x ? Will that still be good enough for the current moddern games?

2. Is there much difference between 3600 DDR ? I kind of just went the cheapest at that speed.

[boggy77]

1 minute ago, schnoodles said:

 

1. Any reason why you opt for the 3600 over the 3600x ? Will that still be good enough for the current moddern games?

2. Is there much difference between 3600 DDR ? I kind of just went the cheapest at that speed.

the difference between the 3600x and the 3600 is the better stock cooler and a factory overclock that can be achieved anyway. it's not worth $65 extra. the 3600 is great for modern games and productivity tasks. 

 

you said you might need 32gb, so I went with it now, as it's easier to run 2 sticks than 4 at the advertised speed (3600)

also, the CAS latency of the sticks matter as well. the one I picked is C16, the one you picked is c18. the c16 stick will make your system around 2-3% faster than the c18.

[schnoodles]

Thanks for the help @boggy77

 

Hopefully you don't mind if i ask a few more questions.

 

Seems to really make the most of your money you need to buy from different places....

 

So I was wondering which you think would be better

 

New Egg = 792.00 = But it is from America (I think).

1. https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-06g-p4-2066-kr/p/N82E16814487488?Item=N82E16814487488

2. https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?Item=N82E16820232907

 

Shopping Express = 850.00

1. https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/galax-geforce-rtx-2060-1-click-oc-6gb-gddr6-graphi/26NRL7HPX7OC

2. https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/g.skill-ripjaws-v-32gb-2x16gb-3600mhz-cl18-ddr4-de/F4-3600C18D-32GVK

 

 

Then any reason you went a mATX over an ATX with a different Case? Just curious for the reasoning as the motherboards are really the part I have the least knowledge on.

 

If you were to stick to that setup. Any idea which CPU / Case Fan you would get from PC Case Gear as the ones selected I cant seem to find.

 

https://www.pccasegear.com/category/9/fans-accessories

https://www.pccasegear.com/category/207_23/cooling/cpu-cooling

[VEXICUS]

21 hours ago, boggy77 said:

1. no, get the 3600

2. yes

3. no. check the psu tier list in my signature

4. yes

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$299.00 @ JW Computers
CPU Cooler	Deepcool Neptwin RGB 56.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$86.10 @ Amazon Australia
Motherboard	MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$178.00 @ I-Tech
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$265.10 @ Newegg Australia
Storage	Crucial P2 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO GAMING Video Card	$526.90 @ Device Deal
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.00 @ PCCaseGear
Power Supply	Gigabyte 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$148.00 @ I-Tech
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F14 PWM 77.3 CFM 140 mm Fan	$10.00 @ Skycomp Technology
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F14 PWM 77.3 CFM 140 mm Fan	$10.00 @ Skycomp Technology
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F14 PWM 77.3 CFM 140 mm Fan	$10.00 @ Skycomp Technology
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1741.10
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-28 18:33 AEST+1000

 

Only some b450 boards will support zen3 cpus. Not all of them.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15807/amd-to-support-zen-3-and-ryzen-4000-cpus-on-b450-and-x470-motherboards

 

 

Source:

 

[m0oble]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$299.00 @ JW Computers
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$204.70 @ Device Deal
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory	$146.40 @ Device Deal
Storage	Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$98.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$97.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card	MSI Radeon RX 5700 8 GB MECH OC Video Card	$579.70 @ Newegg Australia
Case	NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case	$140.00 @ Skycomp Technology
Power Supply	EVGA 600 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	$96.94 @ Amazon Australia
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1661.74
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-29 16:00 AEST+1000

 

[boggy77]

2 hours ago, schnoodles said:

Thanks for the help @boggy77

 

Hopefully you don't mind if i ask a few more questions.

 

Seems to really make the most of your money you need to buy from different places....

 

So I was wondering which you think would be better

 

New Egg = 792.00 = But it is from America (I think).

1. https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/evga-geforce-rtx-2060-06g-p4-2066-kr/p/N82E16814487488?Item=N82E16814487488

2. https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907?Item=N82E16820232907

 

Shopping Express = 850.00

1. https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/galax-geforce-rtx-2060-1-click-oc-6gb-gddr6-graphi/26NRL7HPX7OC

2. https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/g.skill-ripjaws-v-32gb-2x16gb-3600mhz-cl18-ddr4-de/F4-3600C18D-32GVK

 

 

Then any reason you went a mATX over an ATX with a different Case? Just curious for the reasoning as the motherboards are really the part I have the least knowledge on.

 

If you were to stick to that setup. Any idea which CPU / Case Fan you would get from PC Case Gear as the ones selected I cant seem to find.

 

https://www.pccasegear.com/category/9/fans-accessories

https://www.pccasegear.com/category/207_23/cooling/cpu-cooling

i went with the mortar max because in my opinion it's simply the best b450 motherboard. it has the same vrms as the tomahawk max, with good enough vrm cooling and 2 m.2 slots. it's smaller and it looks good. you can get a matx case for it if you want your system to be smaller, I just picked a case with good airflow (it's important to have a front mesh).

 

as for websites, probably best to buy from an australian store, it's probably easier/cheaper to replace anything in case parts break.

 

for cpu cooler, one of these:

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/43100/cryorig-h7-plus-dual-fan-cpu-cooler

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/41542/cooler-master-masterair-ma620p-rgb-cpu-cooler

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37766/cooler-master-hyper-212-led-turbo-cpu-cooler-red-cover

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/48992/cooler-master-hyper-212-led-turbo-white-edition-cpu-cooler

 

for case fans, i'd go with these:

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/29597/cryorig-xf140-140mm-fan

[schnoodles]

36 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

i went with the mortar max because in my opinion it's simply the best b450 motherboard. it has the same vrms as the tomahawk max, with good enough vrm cooling and 2 m.2 slots. it's smaller and it looks good. you can get a matx case for it if you want your system to be smaller, I just picked a case with good airflow (it's important to have a front mesh).

 

as for websites, probably best to buy from an australian store, it's probably easier/cheaper to replace anything in case parts break.

 

for cpu cooler, one of these:

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/43100/cryorig-h7-plus-dual-fan-cpu-cooler

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/41542/cooler-master-masterair-ma620p-rgb-cpu-cooler

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37766/cooler-master-hyper-212-led-turbo-cpu-cooler-red-cover

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/48992/cooler-master-hyper-212-led-turbo-white-edition-cpu-cooler

 

for case fans, i'd go with these:

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/29597/cryorig-xf140-140mm-fan

Ok awesome. I am basically done now. Buying in a combination of several stores.

 

My last few questions and then I will let you have some peace....

 

1. Are different 2060 RTX variations really that different. I chose the https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/galax-geforce-rtx-2060-1-click-oc-6gb-gddr6-graphi/26NRL7HPX7OC as it seems to be quite a lot cheaper.

2. What power supply would you choose from here https://www.pccasegear.com/category/15_535/power-supplies/all-models

3. I originally chose the Crucial as it seems to be decently priced. Is the P2 worth it or should their be a better SSD I could look at (I will probably get 2 now I know there are two slots).

4. If I was to buy a 4TB hdd which one would you suggest?

 

Thanks Again!

[boggy77]

for psu:

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/47167/super-flower-leadex-iii-gold-550w-power-supply

 

for gpu, it makes a small difference in terms of thermal performance and noise and overclocking performance. the galax is low end, but it doesn't have any actual problems.

 

larger ssds are faster, so it's usually better to get a 1gb one than 2 500gb ones.

Team MP34 this is faster than the p2.

 

Toshiba X300 this for hdd

[schnoodles]

Thanks so much @boggy77 and everyone. I have finally purchased all my parts.

 

I dont suppose anyone knows what a good 27"ish monitor which is not crazy expensive but still good for games is?

 

Preferably from

 

https://www.centrecom.com.au/monitors

 

or

 

https://www.pcdi.com.au/product-category/pc-components/monitors/

 

As they are local.

 

Originally I was going to go https://www.centrecom.com.au/aoc-27-1ms-144hz-free-sync-monitor as that is what my friend suggested but I thought I would see if there are some other better price monitors around.