RTX 2060 getting bottlenecked?

[Geralt]

Hey guys, been a while since I posted here but I recently upgraded my 980Ti to a 2060 and I'm noticing that performance is almost the same or slightly lower than when I was using my 980Ti. Is my CPU really too old for the RTX 2060? I tried googling about this and I'm getting mixed answers but from what I gather, since I'm gaming on 1080p 60Hz, there is a bottleneck unless I game at higher resolutions.

[Eigenvektor]

You should have a look at your CPU utilization and GPU utilization. If your CPU (or one of its cores) is close to 100% and your GPU isn't, then you're most likely looking at a bottleneck. The cards are fairly close in performance though, one is a high-end model (a few generations old) and the other is more modern, but rather mid-range.

 

 

[boggy77]

What cpu?

[Geralt]

6 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

What cpu?

It's all in my sig. 4790K clocked at 3.8Ghz

[Geralt]

11 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

You should have a look at your CPU utilization and GPU utilization. If your CPU (or one of its cores) is close to 100% and your GPU isn't, then you're most likely looking at a bottleneck. The cards are fairly close in performance though, one is a high-end model (a few generations old) and the other is more modern, but rather mid-range.

 

 

I was watching my utilization while in game and I noticed that my cpu was hitting 90% while my gpu was sitting at 75% give or take. Same situation with running 3D Mark especially during the Fire Strike combined test.

[boggy77]

1 minute ago, Geralt said:

It's all in my sig. 4790K clocked at 3.8Ghz

Yeah, it's probably holding you back a bit. Also the ram which is ddr3

[Geralt]

1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

Yeah, it's probably holding you back a bit. Also the ram which is ddr3

Would a downgrade to the 10 series cards help out a bit? I just want my rig to last maybe a year or two more

[Eigenvektor]

3 minutes ago, Geralt said:

Would a downgrade to the 10 series cards help out a bit? I just want my rig to last maybe a year or two more

If you look at the video, the 1660 Ti is fairly close in performance to the 980 Ti, but I'm not sure it's worth it to downgrade. If anything, you can keep using the 2060 when you upgrade the rest of the system. I mean, you're not going to get better performance than the 2060 by removing the CPU bottleneck and replacing it with a GPU bottleneck.

 

~edit: Unless you can still return the 2060 and get the 1660 Ti for cheaper, of course. In that case you'd save some money for the same performance. But it's not really an upgrade either case, more of a sidegrade.

[Vishera]

1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

Yeah, it's probably holding you back a bit. Also the ram which is ddr3

The RAM is not a problem,DDR3 has very low latency,CL9 is the the average of DDR3.

Just now, Geralt said:

Would a downgrade to the 10 series cards help out a bit? I just want my rig to last maybe a year or two more

Downgrading won't help,you will get the same or worse performance.

I think it's time to overclock your CPU to at least 5GHz,try to push to 5.1GHz.

[Geralt]

Just now, Vishera said:

Downgrading won't help,you will get the same or worse performance.

I think it's time to overclock your CPU to at least 5GHz,try to push to 5.1GHz.

I lost the silicon lottery with my chip. I could only get 4.9GHz with 1.4v on the core and even then, 1.4v is pretty sketchy for everyday use

[Eigenvektor]

6 minutes ago, Geralt said:

I lost the silicon lottery with my chip. I could only get 4.9GHz with 1.4v on the core and even then, 1.4v is pretty sketchy for everyday use

If you can still return the card you could try that to save some money you can put towards the future upgrade, otherwise I'd probably stay with the 2060 and keep it for the new system.

[Vishera]

Just now, Eigenvektor said:

If you can still return the card you could try that to save some money you can put towards the future upgrade, otherwise I'd probably stay with the 2060 and keep it for the new system.

That's true,with the price of the 2060 OP can upgrade to Ryzen,

and the 980 Ti is still a powerful card,it's head to head with my crazy OCed 1660,the 1070 and the 1660 Ti,

I can play almost every game on Ultra settings with at least 80 FPS.

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[Geralt]

23 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

If you can still return the card you could try that to save some money you can put towards the future upgrade, otherwise I'd probably stay with the 2060 and keep it for the new system.

 

12 minutes ago, Vishera said:

That's true,with the price of the 2060 OP can upgrade to Ryzen,

and the 980 Ti is still a powerful card,it's head to head with my crazy OCed 1660,the 1070 and the 1660 Ti,

I can play almost every game on Ultra settings with at least 80 FPS.

 

Ah that's where I made the mistake. I sold my 980Ti in order to upgrade to the 2060 without knowing that my 4790K will be a bottleneck. Which is why I thought that I could return my 2060 and maybe get a used 1080Ti

[Eigenvektor]

6 hours ago, Vishera said:

The RAM is not a problem,DDR3 has very low latency, CL9 is the the average of DDR3.

Keep in mind that this is measured in clock cycles, so fewer cycles at lower clocks doesn't necessarily mean less absolute latency.

 

CL9 @ 1866 MHz translates to 9.2 nanoseconds, which is only slightly better than CL16 @ 3200 MHz (10 ns). As far as I can see, the HyperX Fury from Geralt's profile has CL10 or 10.7 ns latency. And the bandwidth is definitely better for DDR4.

[Vishera]

2 minutes ago, Eigenvektor said:

Keep in mind that this is measured in clock cycles, so fewer cycles at lower clocks doesn't necessarily mean less absolute latency.

 

CL9 @ 1866 MHz translates to 9.2 nanoseconds, which is only slightly better than CL16 @ 3200 MHz (10 ns). As far as I can see, the HyperX Fury from Geralt's profile has CL10 or 10.7 ns latency. And the bandwidth is definitely better for DDR4.

Yep,I already know that.

There are also high performance kits of CL7.

[Geralt]

Update: I've decided to keep my 2060 and get rid of my Mobo and cpu for a Ryzen 7 3700X upgrade. Merry Christmas to me I guess

[Vishera]

6 hours ago, Geralt said:

Update: I've decided to keep my 2060 and get rid of my Mobo and cpu for a Ryzen 7 3700X upgrade. Merry Christmas to me I guess

Merry Christmas