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37 minutes ago, RockerM3 said:

It'd be nice to have a system that can last me 4+ years. 

That's really up to you.

If your current system fits your need, then there's no point upgrading.

My current computer is nearly 10 years old at this point, because even though the CPU is trash by today's standards, I could still play pretty much every games on it just by changing the GPU.

Yes Zen2 is much better than your first gen, but is there any pressing reason you need to upgrade? Other than having money burning a hole in your wallet?

You could easily do another year with it, for when Zen2+ is released.

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My current specs are: 

 

Ryzen 5 1600X

B350M-A

RX470

8GB RAM

 

I upgraded my CPU and mobo only last year but looking how 3rd Gen performs it just makes me want to upgrade again but I don't know if it's really worth it or not. In comparison, I bought the Ryzen 5 1600 with that motherboard combo last year and it costed me the same as a Ryzen 5 3600X with a X370 Asrock Killer SLI combo. Should I buy it and is it really worth it? Also, I don't know if that motherboard is any good. I'm also planning in the future to change my GPU. It'd be nice to have a system that can last me 4+ years. 

 

Thanks! 

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i have a 3700x and my wife a 3600x. Even the lowly $199 3600 will blow the 1600x out of the water performance wise. Does your motherboard support the 3600? Maybe you can drop it in like many are doing with their B450/x470 boards

 

THe question is, does your current computer do everything that you want it to do? Would you be better served adding another 8 gigs of ram and upgrading your video card?

Ryzen 3700x w/ Arctic Cooling 34 eSports DUO || MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC || GSkill DDR4 3200 CL14 @ 3600 16-16-16 || EVGA 2070 XC Gaming || WD Black 1T NVME, WD Black 2T 7200 rpm || EVGA SuperNova 750 G1+

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1. Stop considering crap boards

 

2. 3600 is a good upgrade but I'd look om other parts first. What PSU model is that? RAM specs? sSD

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

1. Stop considering crap boards

 

2. 3600 is a good upgrade but I'd look om other parts first. What PSU model is that? RAM specs? sSD

I have a 650w Seasonic Focus Plus Gold, my RAM is Ballistix DDR4 2400mhz 8GB and I don't have an SSD. 

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10 minutes ago, Tom H said:

i have a 3700x and my wife a 3600x. Even the lowly $199 3600 will blow the 1600x out of the water performance wise. Does your motherboard support the 3600? Maybe you can drop it in like many are doing with their B450/x470 boards

 

THe question is, does your current computer do everything that you want it to do? Would you be better served adding another 8 gigs of ram and upgrading your video card?

I mean, the thing is that I can get something better while paying almost the same that it costed me a year ago and it is quite tempting. I'll upgrade my GPU some time this year though.

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2 minutes ago, RockerM3 said:

I have a 650w Seasonic Focus Plus Gold, my RAM is Ballistix DDR4 2400mhz 8GB and I don't have an SSD. 

Single stick of memory or two? If it's single, add another stick.

 

Also add an SSD and make it the boot drive. 250GB or higher.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Single stick of memory or two? If it's single, add another stick.

 

Also add an SSD and make it the boot drive. 250GB or higher.

I'm planning to add more RAM but what's your point with the SSD? 

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5 minutes ago, RockerM3 said:

I'm planning to add more RAM but what's your point with the SSD? 

It's much more responsive than a HDD in data transfer, hence much better as a boot drive.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

It's much more responsive than a HDD in data transfer, hence much better as a boot drive.

Yes, I know that, but how is it related to my question? 

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37 minutes ago, RockerM3 said:

It'd be nice to have a system that can last me 4+ years. 

That's really up to you.

If your current system fits your need, then there's no point upgrading.

My current computer is nearly 10 years old at this point, because even though the CPU is trash by today's standards, I could still play pretty much every games on it just by changing the GPU.

Yes Zen2 is much better than your first gen, but is there any pressing reason you need to upgrade? Other than having money burning a hole in your wallet?

You could easily do another year with it, for when Zen2+ is released.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700x / GPU: Asus Radeon RX 6750XT OC 12GB / RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3200
MOBO: MSI B450m Gaming Plus / NVME: Corsair MP510 240GB / Case: TT Core v21 / PSU: Seasonic 750W / OS: Win 10 Pro

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Just now, TetraSky said:

That's really up to you.

If your current system fits your need, then there's no point upgrading.

My current computer is nearly 10 years old at this point, because even though the CPU is trash by today's standards, I could still play pretty much every games on it just by changing the GPU.

Yes Zen2 is much better than your first gen, but is there any pressing reason you need to upgrade? Other than having money burning a hole in your wallet?

You could easily do another year with, for when Zen2+ is released.

I think these are the words that I really needed. Maybe I'll just change my GPU, get another stick of RAM and see how things go from there. Thank you! 

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11 minutes ago, RockerM3 said:

Yes, I know that, but how is it related to my question? 

Getting an SDD is worth more than upgrading already a decent CPU or board, that's why I mention it

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Getting an SDD is worth more than upgrading already a decent CPU or board, that's why I mention it

Thank you, I'll keep it in mind. Hopefully at the end of the year. 

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