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1070MQ Typical Undervolt?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

My Aero 15x has been running rather hot, so on top of repasting and dusting off the system I decided to undervolt the GPU and reapply the LM on the CPU.

For the GPU it's currently running 1430mhz core @ .700v according to GPU-Z and 4704mhz mem which is +700. All clocks were applied in MSI Afterburner and verified with GPU-Z

That's about as far as I can push it without going unstable in certain games. Is that any good?

Temps under load are quite reasonable. In Heaven I'm getting 60C on the GPU and hottest core was 65C on the CPU.

I'm more worried about temps than anything, but wanted to know if the 1070 was doing well :) 


Daily Driver: Xiao Mi Notebook Air 13.3" - i5-8550U, MX150, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 256GB NVME SSD+500GB SATA SSD

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1070MQ hitting power limit already?


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
9 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

1070MQ hitting power limit already?

Nope, currently when undervolted it's not hitting a power limit except for stress tests like furmark, in which case it'll throttle to ~1200mhz

In games and heaven/valley it's not hitting a power limit or voltage limit

 

Edit: I see you also are a tweaker :D I'm trying to undervolt my 8750H but can't seem to get any good (ie. visible) results


Daily Driver: Xiao Mi Notebook Air 13.3" - i5-8550U, MX150, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 256GB NVME SSD+500GB SATA SSD

Gaming Laptop: Gigabyte Aero 15X - i7-8750H, GTX 1070MQ, 16GB 2666, 500GB Toshiba NVMe SSD + 1TB EX 920 NVMe SSD

Battle Station: Core i7-8700K @ 5.0 GHz (w/ Corsair H75), MSI Aero GTX 1070 Ti, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666, 500 GB Samsung 970 Evo, 2x500GB Samsung 850/860 Evos in RAID 1; Built in a Fractal Design Node 202.

Other PCs I own:

Apple PowerMac G4 Quick Silver

Apple Powerbook G4 Titanium 12", 1.33Ghz PPC G4, 512MB DDR RAM, GeForce FX Go5200 64MB GPU, 60GB IDE HDD

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5 minutes ago, ShadowChaser said:

Nope, currently when undervolted it's not hitting a power limit except for stress tests like furmark, in which case it'll throttle to ~1200mhz

In games and heaven/valley it's not hitting a power limit or voltage limit

I myself would allow the GPU to draw more voltage and run higher clocks since the temperature looks good

 

5 minutes ago, ShadowChaser said:

'm trying to undervolt my 8750H but can't seem to get any good (ie. visible) results

because CPU's power management see the power draw drop as a sign to ramp up the frequency. Run benchmark, say Cinebench and you'll see performance increase.


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

I myself would allow the GPU to draw more voltage and run higher clocks since the temperature looks good

 

because CPU's power management see the power draw drop as a sign to ramp up the frequency. Run benchmark, say Cinebench and you'll see performance increase.

These clocks are for maximum mobile performance anyway ^^ I'm still trying to get the gpu under 50W load :D

And I'm also trying to lower the temps on CPU, because even with LM once both chips are going the CPU gets a little toasty. I'm not trying to get performance gains I'm trying to get efficiency gains. I really want to stretch the battery life as far as possible.


Daily Driver: Xiao Mi Notebook Air 13.3" - i5-8550U, MX150, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 256GB NVME SSD+500GB SATA SSD

Gaming Laptop: Gigabyte Aero 15X - i7-8750H, GTX 1070MQ, 16GB 2666, 500GB Toshiba NVMe SSD + 1TB EX 920 NVMe SSD

Battle Station: Core i7-8700K @ 5.0 GHz (w/ Corsair H75), MSI Aero GTX 1070 Ti, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666, 500 GB Samsung 970 Evo, 2x500GB Samsung 850/860 Evos in RAID 1; Built in a Fractal Design Node 202.

Other PCs I own:

Apple PowerMac G4 Quick Silver

Apple Powerbook G4 Titanium 12", 1.33Ghz PPC G4, 512MB DDR RAM, GeForce FX Go5200 64MB GPU, 60GB IDE HDD

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2 minutes ago, ShadowChaser said:

These clocks are for maximum mobile performance anyway ^^ I'm still trying to get the gpu under 50W load :D

And I'm also trying to lower the temps on CPU, because even with LM once both chips are going the CPU gets a little toasty. I'm not trying to get performance gains I'm trying to get efficiency gains. I really want to stretch the battery life as far as possible.

drag PL1 and PL2 down then. Depending on software it can also be called Turbo boost power limit and Turbo boost short power limit. Something like that.


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
19 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

drag PL1 and PL2 down then. Depending on software it can also be called Turbo boost power limit and Turbo boost short power limit. Something like that.

okay, will try that, but now, under a combined aida64 FPU + Heaven benchmark temps are looking more reasonable

CPU is 81C @ 3.15 Ghz so it is still throttling somewhat at 51W power draw but still boosting

GPU is 70C at above clocks (~98% util) and ~68W which I can live with.

Under load it still takes more than 120W which would be the sweet spot for me.


Daily Driver: Xiao Mi Notebook Air 13.3" - i5-8550U, MX150, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 256GB NVME SSD+500GB SATA SSD

Gaming Laptop: Gigabyte Aero 15X - i7-8750H, GTX 1070MQ, 16GB 2666, 500GB Toshiba NVMe SSD + 1TB EX 920 NVMe SSD

Battle Station: Core i7-8700K @ 5.0 GHz (w/ Corsair H75), MSI Aero GTX 1070 Ti, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666, 500 GB Samsung 970 Evo, 2x500GB Samsung 850/860 Evos in RAID 1; Built in a Fractal Design Node 202.

Other PCs I own:

Apple PowerMac G4 Quick Silver

Apple Powerbook G4 Titanium 12", 1.33Ghz PPC G4, 512MB DDR RAM, GeForce FX Go5200 64MB GPU, 60GB IDE HDD

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13 minutes ago, ShadowChaser said:

CPU is 81C @ 3.15 Ghz so it is still throttling somewhat at 51W power draw but still boosting

you could lock that down to whatever number you want with PL1. I tend to keep PL2 the same as PL1 to stop it from boosting super high for seconds and make the fans go nuts.


"What's under the heatsink?" ep1, "Why it's not as good as it seem?" AMD fanboy edition out, episode 2 "Why my gaming board is a scam?" Intel fanboy edition coming soon (this is a link)

Hardware specs below

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.4?V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

you could lock that down to whatever number you want with PL1. I tend to keep PL2 the same as PL1 to stop it from boosting super high for seconds and make the fans go nuts.

heh the fan control on the aero 15 is slow enough that it doesn't really do that xD
I do want to preserve some performance so I think 50W is pretty good :) got CPU and iGPU to -100mv and it's stable. Will push further once I drop the PLs


Daily Driver: Xiao Mi Notebook Air 13.3" - i5-8550U, MX150, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 256GB NVME SSD+500GB SATA SSD

Gaming Laptop: Gigabyte Aero 15X - i7-8750H, GTX 1070MQ, 16GB 2666, 500GB Toshiba NVMe SSD + 1TB EX 920 NVMe SSD

Battle Station: Core i7-8700K @ 5.0 GHz (w/ Corsair H75), MSI Aero GTX 1070 Ti, 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2666, 500 GB Samsung 970 Evo, 2x500GB Samsung 850/860 Evos in RAID 1; Built in a Fractal Design Node 202.

Other PCs I own:

Apple PowerMac G4 Quick Silver

Apple Powerbook G4 Titanium 12", 1.33Ghz PPC G4, 512MB DDR RAM, GeForce FX Go5200 64MB GPU, 60GB IDE HDD

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