New gaming pc ( need opinion and help )

[newfrim]

Hi guys, 

I want to build a new pc with a budget of 1000-1200 (canadian money)

My goal would be to reach 100 fps at 1080p 

I have come with 3 build, if anyone can give me their opinion or even suggest a new build it would be appreciate ! 

 

First one : https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jLd3LJ

Second one : https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2FzNr6

Third one ( didnt manage to put it in partpicker ) 

Ryzen 7 1700x Processor: https://amzn.to/2EgpUL9

AMD Wraith CPU Cooler: https://amzn.to/2DV7v5h

Corsair Vengeance RGB 3000 MHz 2x8GB (16GB) DDR4 RAM: https://amzn.to/2NeZIU7

AX370-Gaming Motherboard: https://amzn.to/2X8SeXj

Zotac GTX 1060 Graphics Card: https://amzn.to/2DSIPuf

EVGA DG-77 Case: https://amzn.to/2TW5BbB

Crucial m.2 250GB SSD: https://amzn.to/2Ni04cU

Rosewill Capstone 650m Power Supply: https://amzn.to/2Nfw6pJ

 

Thanks again, 
Newfrim

[Guest]

Hi,
i'm surprised by your demand... 100 fps at 1080p
you see that more and more
personally i would say you need more then a 1060 for a peacefull experience
and to give an indication. I have a 1060 3gb and on the latest total war game i just barely reach 105 fps with all settings on low and turned off
now is total war quite consuming but i expect this to be a very frequent experience for the newer games that will be arriving in the years to come
some experts will be checking your build probably within hours so gl with them and your new pc ofcourse

[Aqeel Shahzad]

Better wait a bit and get ryzen 3rd gen with x570

but x570 might be too expensive so you have to have patience in getting those B series.

i cant say much for gfx i mean for new gfx and 100fps i dont think so.

[berberries]

For 1000-1200 CAD, you can squeeze even an RTX 2060 in there, definitely will give you a better experience.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TvrQpG

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($207.05 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($85.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($72.75 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card  ($459.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($54.75 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.72 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Total: $1173.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-07 15:28 EDT-0400

[Oalei]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$207.05 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$79.24 @ Vuugo
Memory	Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$85.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$79.42 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$72.75 @ Vuugo
Video Card	Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card	$422.51 @ Amazon Canada
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$54.75 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Canada Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1146.70
	Mail-in rebates	-$45.00
	Total	$1101.70
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-07 15:29 EDT-0400

Something like this probably will satisfy your needs

[Dedayog]

Your first and second PC's should do 100fps at 1080p with the 1660Ti.

 

 

[newfrim]

Thanks for the fast answer !

So u guys think i can reach the 100 fps at 1080, if i get a better videocard ? 

Does my psu in the first two build is an overkill? 

[berberries]

Yes, with your budget you should be able to squeeze in an RTX 2060. If you can fit it in, I would recommend you go for the Seasonic Focus+ Gold

[Bearmann]

berwynhan are I are on the same wavelenth. You still have $60 left for any upgrades you want to make. If you can, though, I would wait for Ryzen 3000 on July 7th.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  (Newegg Combo $0.00)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Newegg Combo $358.57)
Memory: Team - Dark 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($85.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($48.57 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($72.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($449.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1140.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-07 16:06 EDT-0400

 

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3909737

 

This would be very nice:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

 

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (Newegg Combo $0.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (Newegg Combo $404.98)
Memory: Team - Dark 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($85.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($48.57 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($72.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($449.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1187.26

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-07 16:17 EDT-0400

 

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3901025

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, berwynhan said:

For 1000-1200 CAD, you can squeeze even an RTX 2060 in there, definitely will give you a better experience.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TvrQpG

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($207.05 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($129.50 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($85.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($72.75 @ Vuugo) 
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card  ($459.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($54.75 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.72 @ Mike's Computer Shop) 
Total: $1173.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-07 15:28 EDT-0400

That psu is bad though. A Corsair TXM/RMx or Bitfenix Formula/Whisper would be better option.

[newfrim]

Spoiler

 

Ok thanks for the advice guys, what is the exact role of the psu ? will it impact the performance of the pc ? 

I saw some people change my ram ? where they bad ? what was the tought behind it ? 
 

Do u guys know any good case for easy cable management and good air flow since it's my first pc ?

 

Thanks again for the help,

Newfrim

[trevb0t]

6 hours ago, berwynhan said:

I would recommend you go for the Seasonic Focus+ Gold

The Focus series has actually been having issues with hungry GPUs as of late. BitFenix Gold or RMx is the way to go these days.

Perhaps @LukeSavenije could offer further insight on the Focus Plus issues? (I believe I recall units having shut down operation when GPUs were reaching boost clocks, but I don't want to spread false info.)

44 minutes ago, newfrim said:

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Ok thanks for the advice guys, what is the exact role of the psu ? will it impact the performance of the pc ? 

I saw some people change my ram ? where they bad ? what was the tought behind it ? 
 

Do u guys know any good case for easy cable management and good air flow since it's my first pc ?

 

Thanks again for the help,

Newfrim

The PSU does a number of things, namely powering the PC components. 

The PSU also provides protective measures for power surges / harmful currents. Getting a good unit is very important.

A poor PSU can literally light fires in your pc components.

 

As for RAM, with Ryzen it is important to have Dual Channel RAM (2 matching sticks) at 3000-3200mhz. This is also beneficial for Intel, but less crucial. Other than that... Really it just comes down to heat spreader quality.

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($208.27 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M Pro4-F Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.24 @ Vuugo) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($85.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital - RE 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($63.94 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($449.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($54.75 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Total: $1092.16
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-07 22:30 EDT-0400

[trevb0t]

As others have stated, Ryzen 3rd Gen will likely be the best bet at the budget.

This build has a 2700 and a B450 Tomahawk, which price wise should reflect what a Ryzen 5 3600 and a B550 board might look like pricing wise at launch on 07/07.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$296.75 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.50 @ Vuugo
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$87.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$79.42 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	$449.99 @ Memory Express
Case	Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case	$56.95 @ Vuugo
Power Supply	BitFenix - Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$89.91 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1210.51
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-07 22:56 EDT-0400

 

[Bearmann]

1 hour ago, newfrim said:

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Ok thanks for the advice guys, what is the exact role of the psu ? will it impact the performance of the pc ? 

I saw some people change my ram ? where they bad ? what was the tought behind it ? 
 

Do u guys know any good case for easy cable management and good air flow since it's my first pc ?

 

Thanks again for the help,

Newfrim

Your RAM was fine. We were just trying to stretch your dollar and save money where we could. That Corsair 275R is nice budget case. Of course, you can always spend more.

[newfrim]

Thanks guys, 

It's really helpful, i appreciate it !

[newfrim]

Hey, i have an other question, when the rysen 3--- while get out, do u know how much it's going to cost ? And u guys think they are going to do huge sale on the 2600 to clear the inventory ? 

[Dedayog]

Prices are in the Ryzen thread in Tech News section, by Origami I think.

 

There should be a price drop but not huge sale, as prices have been falling for months.

[newfrim]

Perfect, thanks i will check it out !

Edit : the price are in US, sometime it doesn't really translate to the canadian cost, since everything is more expensive in canada. 

[newfrim]

One more question if u dont mind, 

I found someone who sell thi's build used, how much do u think this build is worth ? ( It was not in english i've try to translate it the best i could ) 

Edit : i know there is not psu in that list, he didnt mention it, so he's going to tell me later when he get home

- Case NZXT S340 white
- processor: i7 7700K 4.50GHZ
- GPU Gtx 1080 8GB
- 16GB ram G-Skill 
- Motherboard Asus Prime Z-270A
- hard drive #1 500gb SSD
- hard drive #2 1000GB 
- cooler : Cool Master 612 Hyper Version 2

[Bearmann]

On 6/9/2019 at 1:35 PM, newfrim said:

One more question if u dont mind, 

I found someone who sell thi's build used, how much do u think this build is worth ? ( It was not in english i've try to translate it the best i could ) 

Edit : i know there is not psu in that list, he didnt mention it, so he's going to tell me later when he get home

- Case NZXT S340 white
- processor: i7 7700K 4.50GHZ
- GPU Gtx 1080 8GB
- 16GB ram G-Skill 
- Motherboard Asus Prime Z-270A
- hard drive #1 500gb SSD
- hard drive #2 1000GB 
- cooler : Cool Master 612 Hyper Version 2

Here it is build out with substitutions where needed. I would say it is worth 1050-1200 Canadian dollars.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2 GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor  ($541.01 @ Amazon Canada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 612 Ver.2 44.2 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($59.95 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-A ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($177.55 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($86.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($79.40 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB VENTUS Video Card  ($649.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: NZXT - S340 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($97.05 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1795.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-09 17:45 EDT-0400

 

Addendum: changed out the cooler.

[newfrim]

Thanks,

but he doesn't have an 2070 but a 1080 is it worth more ? 

[Bearmann]

20 minutes ago, newfrim said:

Thanks,

but he doesn't have an 2070 but a 1080 is it worth more ? 

The 2070 is approximately equal in performance. The 1080's are now scarce and the prices are inflated if you can find one.

[newfrim]

Alright thanks !

[newfrim]

I'm buying some piece right now, i see alot of option for the mother board here. What's the main difference bettwen each mother board selected for your build suggestion ?

I saw those 4 were suggested, so i'm kinda lost in what to do 

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4D7v6h/msi-x470-gaming-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-gaming-plus

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Hy97YJ/msi-b450-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/hNdxFT/asrock-b450m-steel-legend-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-steel-legend

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/TWzkcf/gigabyte-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-aorus-ultra-gaming