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Do the Sapphire leaks make sense?

StarsMars
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The leak is

" the Navi XT that can best the NVIDIA RTX 2070 for $499. AMD will also launch the Navi Pro, with performance between the RTX 2060 and RTX 2070 for $399. The Radeon VII, meanwhile, will remain AMD's flagship GPU. "

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The pricing doesn't make sense to me.

Radeon VII nipping at the 2080s heels without ray tracing cores but similarly priced due to hbm2 cost makes sense to me.

 

But

Navi XT - $499/ no ray tracing cores = RTX 2070 - $499

 

Navi Pro - $399/no ray tracing cores = RTX 2060  - $349

 

??

 

They are going to use gddr6 not hbm2 so without ray tracing hardware how is this pricing competitive or compelling?

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We have to see the real deal before disagreeing with the price. Maybe AMD managed to make Navi more efficient than Nvidia's offerings? Maybe it's much faster in certain workloads? Maybe it comes with full OpenGL support so you dont need to buy Radeon Pros anymore? We'll see.

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2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

We have to see the real deal before disagreeing with the price. Maybe AMD managed to make Navi more efficient than Nvidia's offerings? Maybe it's much faster in certain workloads? Maybe it comes with full OpenGL support so you dont need to buy Radeon Pros anymore? We'll see.

I’m really curbing my expectations for Navi. But I am betting this leak is a little off. 

 

Still amped for ryzen

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