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Cloud Gaming using your own PC abroad?

Dijon
By Dijon
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Hi guys so in 2 months time, after my exams I will build my very first Gaming PC (finally picked the parts!) but I have a problem. You see I finish my exams on the 14th, and I will buy the parts and wait for them to arrive (Amazon Prime, so next day delivery) and finish building at lets say the 20th June. Problem is on I dont when exactly but definetly in the 20-27 range, I will leave the UK and go abroad for my well deserved holiday for 2 months. Now my phone is crap and it really annoys me that I would of built a really nice Gaming PC, yet not be able to use it for over 2 months. I wanted to play and try my PC out in that holiday but I cant bring my PC with me. Then I had a solution but idk if it works of if this software exists. So I would go on holiday, download Steam (or any equivilant software) on my phone and my PC when before I go. Then when I am abroad I just text my parents (I am going abroad by myself, will be 16 then) to turn my newly built PC on (your PC has to be on for cloud gaming right?) and then I would connect my phone to my PC and essentially play on my phone using hardware from my PC. Now a seperate cloud gaming service would be cool but first it would be very expensive and most of them dont reach my country which I will go abroad on, Kosovo. So my question is, could I do it? Would it even be possible? Are there any other free solutions since I am after all using my own hardware? And the internet speed I have abroad is max 15MBPS, sometimes 20MBPS, so would this be good enough. I would be very appreciative if anyone helps me on this since I really do wanna play on my new built PC abroad when I am bored or before I go to sleep in my holiday. Many Thanks in advance, Dijon.

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Cloud gaming services have massive infrastructures that make their services any good. Using Steam Link to play in the living room is one thing, but playing your PC abroad won't be possible.

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Just now, 2SidedPolygon said:

Cloud gaming services have massive infrastructures that make their services any good. Using Steam Link to play in the living room is one thing, but playing your PC abroad won't be possible.

It's possible but OP will encounter a ton of lag. Cloud gaming services don't just have fast internet they have optimized the entire pathway like crazy with inhouse and custom optimization on the hardware and software level

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

It's possible but OP will encounter a ton of lag. Cloud gaming services don't just have fast internet they have optimized the entire pathway like crazy with inhouse and custom optimization on the hardware and software level

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I think the best way would be to have Windows 10 Pro and use remote desktop. However, even on the same network, RDP is laggy and poorly optimized for gaming (hence Steam Link). Unless you could VPN to your home network, I can't see you using Steam Link outside of your home network. But even if you could get that to work, would the network you would be on even be fast enough to handle it (say hotel wifi)? 

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You would need to business grade internet to allow that. To minimize latency your upload needs to match download of receiving end, have it be constant and ISP to allow that kind of uploading. Which they tend to limit on home connections since it can be related to piracy.

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I think the best way would be to have Windows 10 Pro and use remote desktop. However, even on the same network, RDP is laggy and poorly optimized for gaming (hence Steam Link). Unless you could VPN to your home network, I can't see you using Steam Link outside of your home network. But even if you could get that to work, would the network you would be on even be fast enough to handle it (say hotel wifi)? 

Well I will be living with my grandparents for the time being and they will show me around and you know let me go on activities etc. At home since they are old they have each only 1 phone each, nothing else is connected to their wifi. So it should'nt be much of a problem?

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Is there any other efficiant way, is there even a powerful service which allows you to basically use your own harware but with money, end of the day I dont mind paying a bit, but not too much.

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2 minutes ago, Dijon said:

Well I will be living with my grandparents for the time being and they will show me around and you know let me go on activities etc. At home since they are old they have each only 1 phone each, nothing else is connected to their wifi. So it should'nt be much of a problem?

It would still depend on internet speed. Just because there's only 3 devices on the wifi doesn't mean an 8mbps connection will be as fast as 100mbps. That's even assuming you can get Steam Link to work over a VPN.

 

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you need 5Ghz Wifi, and a phone/tablet/chromebook that supports 5Ghz

You will want a controller, wired or bluetooth doesn't matter. Mouse and keyboard doesn't work (last time I tried), and on screen controls suck.

 

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32 minutes ago, Eastman51 said:

It would still depend on internet speed. Just because there's only 3 devices on the wifi doesn't mean an 8mbps connection will be as fast as 100mbps. That's even assuming you can get Steam Link to work over a VPN.

 

Also, some tips on using Steam Link on a mobile device:
you need 5Ghz Wifi, and a phone/tablet/chromebook that supports 5Ghz

You will want a controller, wired or bluetooth doesn't matter. Mouse and keyboard doesn't work (last time I tried), and on screen controls suck.

 

Well its actually 15MBPS at its lowest sometimes 25MBPS at its highest, and yes I already have rooted my crappy old samsung and well I can connect my PS3 controller (PS3 sold though) to it blutooth wise. But how would you get steam link to work on VPN, thing is bro, GTA V is not on steam, but rather I paid for it on the actualy Rockstar website, so I downloaded it from there too.

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Well its actually 15MBPS at its lowest sometimes 25MBPS at its highest, and yes I already have rooted my crappy old samsung and well I can connect my PS3 controller (PS3 sold though) to it blutooth wise. But how would you get steam link to work on VPN, thing is bro, GTA V is not on steam, but rather I paid for it on the actualy Rockstar website, so I downloaded it from there too.

idk how to, or if it would work over VPN. To do it would probably require a router with VPN support. My router, for example, has built in settings for me to connect a device to it remotely to access devices on my home network, through a VPN. 

 

If GTA wasn't bought off Steam, you can try adding it to Steam, but that may or may not work over Steam Link.

 

And that internet speed might not be fast enough, unless you streamed in 720p or lower and at 30fps. I know for a fact that 2.4Ghz wifi isn't fast enough for local Steam Link. My phone can only do 2.4 and can't even stream 720p 30fps with Steam link, while my 5Ghz Chromebook can stream 1440p 60fps over my home network.

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idk how to, or if it would work over VPN. To do it would probably require a router with VPN support. My router, for example, has built in settings for me to connect a device to it remotely to access devices on my home network, through a VPN. 

 

If GTA wasn't bought off Steam, you can try adding it to Steam, but that may or may not work over Steam Link.

 

And that internet speed might not be fast enough, unless you streamed in 720p or lower and at 30fps. I know for a fact that 2.4Ghz wifi isn't fast enough for local Steam Link. My phone can only do 2.4 and can't even stream 720p 30fps with Steam link, while my 5Ghz Chromebook can stream 1440p 60fps over my home network.

Well Ik its 2.4GHz idk if its 5GHz, but I did do some research and found a gaming service called "Vortex", heres the link:https://vortex.gg/

Basically has a library of games and you download the app, need to download the app (which luckily my phone supports) and in the library the service supports, the paid games must be either paid for in steam or in their original sites. It has Fortnite and GTA V which are the main games I will play, plus has controller support. I believe its £7.60which I can support. Also when I did go in Kosovo, I did a ping test to check out the connection, it came up as "Fair", and should be able to get decent frame rates. Also I dont mind playing 720p and 30FPS is perfect.

But is this method worth it? Just for reference I really only wanna play Fortnite and GTA V and maybe Fallout 4 too when I go abroad (this cloud gaming service supports both), and its £7.60 monthly. Many Thanks for the previous help though.

PS: Do you think I will get any lag? If so how much if I play lets say, 2 hours a day?

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6 minutes ago, Dijon said:

Well Ik its 2.4GHz idk if its 5GHz, but I did do some research and found a gaming service called "Vortex", heres the link:https://vortex.gg/

Basically has a library of games and you download the app, need to download the app (which luckily my phone supports) and in the library the service supports, the paid games must be either paid for in steam or in their original sites. It has Fortnite and GTA V which are the main games I will play, plus has controller support. I believe its £7.60which I can support. Also when I did go in Kosovo, I did a ping test to check out the connection, it came up as "Fair", and should be able to get decent frame rates. Also I dont mind playing 720p and 30FPS is perfect.

But is this method worth it? Just for reference I really only wanna play Fortnite and GTA V and maybe Fallout 4 too when I go abroad (this cloud gaming service supports both), and its £7.60 monthly. Many Thanks for the previous help though.

PS: Do you think I will get any lag? If so how much if I play lets say, 2 hours a day?

2.4Ghz wifi on an old phone with at best 25mbps internet will be sketchy. You'll probably lag a lot, depending on how stable your internet is and how good the service is, it could be fairly consistent. That service is probably your best option for remote play right now. 720p may get you close to 30fps with that internet. fyi, 30fps isn't that great, especially in games like Fortnite; but it may be the best that you can do on a good day.

 

Depending on how crappy/slow your phone is (assuming Vortex is highly optimized and very stable/good), it could be the deciding factor on whether or not your experience is good or bad.

 

What I might do if I were you, wait until you get back. Order the parts and just wait until you get back to build it, or wait until you get back to even order them (maybe catch some sales?). By that time, 3rd gen Ryzen should be out and you could potentially build a better system for the same price. I say this because Vortex doesn't even use your own PC, they use their servers. You would have built your PC, only to leave and rent out servers instead of using your own system.

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2.4Ghz wifi on an old phone with at best 25mbps internet will be sketchy. You'll probably lag a lot, depending on how stable your internet is and how good the service is, it could be fairly consistent. That service is probably your best option for remote play right now. 720p may get you close to 30fps with that internet. fyi, 30fps isn't that great, especially in games like Fortnite; but it may be the best that you can do on a good day.

 

Depending on how crappy/slow your phone is (assuming Vortex is highly optimized and very stable/good), it could be the deciding factor on whether or not your experience is good or bad.

 

What I might do if I were you, wait until you get back. Order the parts and just wait until you get back to build it, or wait until you get back to even order them (maybe catch some sales?). By that time, 3rd gen Ryzen should be out and you could potentially build a better system for the same price. I say this because Vortex doesn't even use your own PC, they use their servers. You would have built your PC, only to leave and rent out servers instead of using your own system.

Thats true but when I get back Im legit busy with college/sixth form and trying to get a job, so basically I would not have enough time to build a PC after I come back, and my system that I chose for me is great. I do agree with you that the Vortex solution is best, for reference also, the internet abroad is stable and also my phone is the Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE (4G Version), but I dont think it matters on old phones with Vortex and also the signal there is pretty good, Many Thanks fot the previous reply though.

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