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Temps worse after delidding

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Posted · Original PosterOP

So I decided to delid my 8700k. I used the delid die mate 2 and used thermal grizzly thermal paste and my temps are now worse then they were before. I thought I used too much paste the first time so I redid it with less and it was actually slightly worse then the first time. Am I doing something wrong here? It's not like there is a hot spot Or one core is hotter then the rest so I'm kind of stumped here. Testing with Aida64. I also did not remove the black silicon adhesive off the die so maybe it's raising up the IHS and making the temps worse then they should be?

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It is always a risk delidding a CPU, and I would never suggest it unless you could afford to ruin one. 

With this said, I suggest reading and trying again with this article

 

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Did you replace the old paste....with more paste?

 

Or did you replace with liquid metal?


Did you remove the black adhesive? Half the temperature gains are from bringing the IHS closer to the die. If you don't remove the glue, the distance remains the same.

 

Liquid metal + remove old glue = bring IHS closer to die with LM = profit


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Ok so I think I may know the issue. I think it may be a combo of not removing the silicon adhesive and still using too much thermal paste. I'm out of paste so I'll have to order more and try again. I didn't think not removing the adhesive would be that much of an issues since I'd seen other people do it with success but that was also with liquid metal.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

Did you replace the old paste....with more paste?

 

Or did you replace with liquid metal?


Did you remove the black adhesive? Half the temperature gains are from bringing the IHS closer to the die. If you don't remove the glue, the distance remains the same.

 

Liquid metal + remove old glue = bring IHS closer to die with LM = profit

No I removed the old stuff haha. I'm thankfully not that dumb. I chose paste because I still saw people have gains by just replacing the paste with better paste

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Brovahkiin said:

No I removed the old stuff haha. I'm thankfully not that dumb

I used the rockit88 kit. After I popped the top off, I removed all the black glue on both the PCB and the IHS, cleaned off the die, and taped off the PCB. Then I applied the thermal grizzly conductonaut liquid metal. After, I put the chip into the socket, then applied 4 dots of silicon on the corners of the IHS, put the IHS on, then clamped it down. Applied regular thermal paste then cooler afterwards.

 

Dropped 15c at load, no joke. It was like a miracle.


My System: i7-8700k 5.0ghz delidded @1.355v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // Sapphire Radeon RX Vega 64 UV/OC 1677core/1050hbm // NZXT S340 White // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 120GB PNY CS900/480GB PNY CS1311/1TB Hitachi Deskstar // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248QG // Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard - Logitech G502 

 

Wife's System: Ryzen 5 1600 3.8ghz @1.3v // Wraith Spire // Gigabyte AX-370-Gaming // 16GB T-Force DDR4 2667 // XFX Radeon RX 580 8GB // Corsair Obsidian 750D // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 120GB Sandisk SSD/500GB Silicon Power A55/4TB Western Digital Blue // Displays: Acer K242HYL/Acer K242HYL // Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602

 

Son's System: i3-8350k 4.8ghz @ 1.35v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // ASUS Radeon RX 570 4GB // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/500GB Wester Digital Blue // Display: Dell P2417H - Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Ok so I tried it 1 more time, trying to get as little paste on the die as possible, scraping the adhesive off, and using scotch tape to make sure the paste didn't get anywhere else and at the very least I'm back to my original temps, maybe slightly better. I'll order more paste and liquid metal and try that and just stop being a pussy about it haha. Think were all good here for now thank you for the help guys

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