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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi,

I currently have a 1080 running in a 4690k with an msi micro at board, for multiple reasons the board restricts me, lack of expansion slots mainly.

I am in a dilemma of upgrade path, I was really keen on the new AMD announcement at CES for the new 7nm cpus but as they are not due out until later in the year I think I am going to need to make a decision sooner. 

Do I buy a used 1150 z97 board for around £130 or do I spend maybe £600 on a cpu, board and DDR4?

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1 minute ago, Steve1978 said:

I spend maybe £600 on a cpu, board and DDR4?

or just like 400 for a good mobo, a 2600 and 16 gigs of 3000+ mhz ram and get a zen2 chip down the line?


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Posted · Original PosterOP

Is it defo going to be the same socket? 

 

Can an you give me some ideas of chip and board? I haven’t really looked at any AMD stuff for a very long time!

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5 minutes ago, Steve1978 said:

Do I buy a used 1150 z97 board for around £130 or do I spend maybe £600 on a cpu, board and DDR4?

I know that spending a lot of money is never that funny but on your case considering how much tech has changed even if you got the i7 5775C which is the best possible CPU for Z97 you'd still be lagging behind what a Ryzen 5 2600X and Coffee Lake CPUs can offer to a noticeable extend.

 

I wouldn't bother personally and just go all in with the new platform... now if you want to wait or not for Ryzen 3000 series that's up to you... it'll take another couple months though... an i7 8700K for instance already would be a more than welcome upgrade and will remain relevant for gaming for many years to come.


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Just now, Steve1978 said:

Is it defo going to be the same socket? 

 

Can an you give me some ideas of chip and board? I haven’t really looked at any AMD stuff for a very long time!

yes. all ryzen chips untill 2020 will support am4


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Second PC: Cedar mill

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Just now, Steve1978 said:

Excellent, thanks you both. Just joined this forum and think its ace!

then I'll learn you something... you should quote people as they get a notification from it


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Laptop : Acer TravelMate 8573t

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5 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

then I'll learn you something... you should quote people as they get a notification from it

LOL. @Steve1978 I would agree that a full platform upgrade is probably your best bet. I am an intel fanboy and love my 8700K, but that isn't to say that a 2500X or 2700X, with a newer mobo and some DDR4 wouldn't be stellar for gaming as well. Its 2019 Steve, TREAT YO SELF.


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2 minutes ago, FUR1AN said:

2500X

you mean 2600? 2500x is a quadcore


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CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM   PSU: HP 250 watt   Soundcard: built in   Case: Sunbeam Quarterback   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

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Laptop : Acer TravelMate 8573t

CPU: I3-2330M   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 8+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3   MOBO: Acer   SSD: 250 gb mx500 sata   Soundcard: built in   Case: Acer TravelMate 8573t   Screen: TN 768p

 

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

you mean 2600? 2500x is a quadcore

Oh my bad, is it the 2600x and 2700x in the latest gen? Shows how much I pay attention to AMD....

 

Regardless, the most recent gen of Ryzen chips are super sweet for price/performance IMO.


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Just now, FUR1AN said:

Oh my bad, is it the 2600x and 2700x in the latest gen? Shows how much I pay attention to AMD....

 

Regardless, the most recent gen of Ryzen chips are super sweet for price/performance IMO.

untill may probebly. 2600 is better value as x versions are just factory overclocked versions of the same


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Laptop : Acer TravelMate 8573t

CPU: I3-2330M   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 8+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3   MOBO: Acer   SSD: 250 gb mx500 sata   Soundcard: built in   Case: Acer TravelMate 8573t   Screen: TN 768p

 

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22 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

untill may probebly. 2600 is better value as x versions are just factory overclocked versions of the same

Interesting, is AMD different than Intel in that sense then? Because Intel X Skews are "unlocked" for overclocking whereas non X skews are locked and cannot be overclocked. Can you manually overclock a non X skew AMD chip?


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42 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

or just like 400 for a good mobo, a 2600 and 16 gigs of 3000+ mhz ram and get a zen2 chip down the line?

Ok, I am thinking this...

 

Asus ROG vii hero £257

Ryzen 3 1200

corsair 16gb plc 3200 Ddr4

 

then when the new chips are out I could upgrade the cpu to the new 7nm

 

 

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5 minutes ago, FUR1AN said:

Interesting, is AMD different than Intel in that sense then? Because Intel X Skews are "unlocked" for overclocking whereas non X skews are locked and cannot be overclocked. Can you manually overclock a non X skew AMD chip?

on x and k for intel they are unlocked. at amd all ryzen chips are unlocked. and you don't need a x series mobo either, you can get a b series and still overclock on it


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Second PC: Cedar mill

CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM   PSU: HP 250 watt   Soundcard: built in   Case: Sunbeam Quarterback   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

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Laptop : Acer TravelMate 8573t

CPU: I3-2330M   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 8+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3   MOBO: Acer   SSD: 250 gb mx500 sata   Soundcard: built in   Case: Acer TravelMate 8573t   Screen: TN 768p

 

Game consoles:

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Just now, Steve1978 said:

Ok, I am thinking this...

 

Asus ROG vii hero £257

Ryzen 3 1200

corsair 16gb plc 3200 Ddr4

 

then when the new chips are out I could upgrade the cpu to the new 7nm

 

 

away with that board, swap it for a taichi, taichi ultimate or even a x470 fatal1ty. you know 2600 is a hypertreaded hexa core for 150-170 bucks right? ram is fine


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CPU: I5-8600k  @4.5 ghz  GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming   RAM: 8+8 3360 mhz DDR4 Trident Z   MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC   HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung ECOGREEN   SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB   Soundcard: built in   Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB   Screen: Salora 40LED1500

 

Second PC: Cedar mill

CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM   PSU: HP 250 watt   Soundcard: built in   Case: Sunbeam Quarterback   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

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CPU: core2dual E8400   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 2+1+1+1 gb 1333 mhz ddr3   MOBO: HP Q series   HDD: 4x 1tb 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint Ecogreen   Soundcard: built in   Case: Compaq 6000 pro mt   Screen: Samsung SyncMaster710n

 

Laptop : Acer TravelMate 8573t

CPU: I3-2330M   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 8+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3   MOBO: Acer   SSD: 250 gb mx500 sata   Soundcard: built in   Case: Acer TravelMate 8573t   Screen: TN 768p

 

Game consoles:

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1 minute ago, Steve1978 said:

Never even heard of this, I will have a look now. Thanks 

it's around the same price, has better vrms and even 10 gig networking

 

and asrock used to be part of asus if you care about that

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Primary PC:

CPU: I5-8600k  @4.5 ghz  GPU: GTX 1070 ti EVGA SC Gaming   RAM: 8+8 3360 mhz DDR4 Trident Z   MOBO: MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC   HDD: 1 TB 7200 RPM Seagate Baracudda, 1 TB 5400 RPM Samsung ECOGREEN   SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 500 GB   Soundcard: built in   Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 5 RGB   Screen: Salora 40LED1500

 

Second PC: Cedar mill

CPU: i3-2130   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 4+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3    MOBO: HP H series   HDD: 320 GB WD Black 7200 RPM   PSU: HP 250 watt   Soundcard: built in   Case: Sunbeam Quarterback   Screen: IIyama Prolite T2240MTS, Samsung SyncMaster710N

 

Server: CookieVault

CPU: core2dual E8400   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 2+1+1+1 gb 1333 mhz ddr3   MOBO: HP Q series   HDD: 4x 1tb 5400 RPM Samsung Spinpoint Ecogreen   Soundcard: built in   Case: Compaq 6000 pro mt   Screen: Samsung SyncMaster710n

 

Laptop : Acer TravelMate 8573t

CPU: I3-2330M   GPU: Intel HD graphics   RAM: 8+2 GB 1333 mhz DDR3   MOBO: Acer   SSD: 250 gb mx500 sata   Soundcard: built in   Case: Acer TravelMate 8573t   Screen: TN 768p

 

Game consoles:

PS4 slim glacier white 500 gb, PS4 FTP Special Edition 500 gb, Xbox, 3 DS lites, DSI XL, Gameboy Advanced Color, PS Vita v2, Wii, PS3 500 gb

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